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Direar wrote:8-) money mayweather

yeah great.

Moz wrote:everyones acting like they've never seen mayweather fight before. he's fought like this for 18 years and never lost a fight, why would he change a winning style...?
to say mayweather was defensive when he landed more punches than manny is kinda strange too.

Was anyone expecting him to change style?

i don't know. everyone seems really put out that he didn't stand in the middle of the ring and reel off punches, calling it a boring fight etc. i thought it was brilliant.
essentially one of the best offensive boxers in the world could barely make a mark on mayweather. to me thats impressive.

Moz wrote:everyones acting like they've never seen mayweather fight before. he's fought like this for 18 years and never lost a fight, why would he change a winning style...?
to say mayweather was defensive when he landed more punches than manny is kinda strange too.

This is why I don't get why so many people after the fight were upset? They know mayweathers style, but still complain. He's always fought that way. If any criticism should be focused towards anyone it should be more on pacman as he didn't really push early enough in the fight and he kind of slowed down in terms of how much pressure he applied. I think most are just disappointed we didn't see mayweather put through more punishing situations in the fight and witness a KO. Round 4 was great early round for him but it wasn't enough to stop mayweathers control. I can sympathise with people wanting more action, I thought we might see a closer fight. But that's how it goes. mayweather is like the GSP of boxing. A very effective style of fighting that is kind of boring to most people as you don't see many finishes. It's more of an appreciate of their technique, if that's not enough, then you probably won't be satisfied.

As I said, it was technically brilliant but certainly I get why people, especially more casual boxing fans, thought it boring. And I would be leaning towards agreeing. It's the same with the Kiltchkso brothers; outstanding boxers with great tactical nous but realistically no one is going to be watching them in a euphoric state of excitement.

Compare the drama of watching Ali or Tyson fights to Mayweather and in terms of enthrallment it's not even close. As chalkitdown said he is like the Chelsea of boxing. You can admire and recognise the skill on display without finding it exciting. Impressive certainly.

zXe wrote:

Moz wrote:everyones acting like they've never seen mayweather fight before. he's fought like this for 18 years and never lost a fight, why would he change a winning style...?
to say mayweather was defensive when he landed more punches than manny is kinda strange too.

This is why I don't get why so many people after the fight were upset? They know mayweathers style, but still complain. He's always fought that way. If any criticism should be focused towards anyone it should be more on pacman as he didn't really push early enough in the fight and he kind of slowed down in terms of how much pressure he applied. I think most are just disappointed we didn't see mayweather put through more punishing situations in the fight and witness a KO. Round 4 was great early round for him but it wasn't enough to stop mayweathers control. I can sympathise with people wanting more action, I thought we might see a closer fight. But that's how it goes. mayweather is like the GSP of boxing. A very effective style of fighting that is kind of boring to most people as you don't see many finishes. It's more of an appreciate of their technique, if that's not enough, then you probably won't be satisfied.

Many of the people who watched last nights 'fight of the century' will never have seen a Mayweather fight before. Certainly, a few of my friends stayed up to watch it who had never seen him perform before. I did warn them.

I was disappointed with Pacman. I'm not sure if he was conditioned enough for it but I was expecting many more combinations that just didn't materialise. Far too many single shots that were never going to trouble Mayweather.

In the post fight press conference he (pacman) said he had pain in his shoulders, so he struggled a bit in that regard. - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/boxing/32572399

Post fight presser - http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/5/3/853 ... ence-video

Floyd Sr said this on those who criticise his son

Mayweather's father and trainer, Floyd Sr, criticised those who booed him before and after the fight.
"My son should be treated better," said Mayweather Sr. "I'm not saying it bothers him but if I was in his shoes, it would bother me.
"He's paying the price for being honest and for being too good. When these guys are throwing punches and he's making them miss, people call that boring.
"They don't know boxing, that's the problem."

Moz wrote:i don't know. everyone seems really put out that he didn't stand in the middle of the ring and reel off punches, calling it a boring fight etc. i thought it was brilliant.
essentially one of the best offensive boxers in the world could barely make a mark on mayweather. to me thats impressive.

It was totally impressive technically speaking, as a boxer he was phenomenal. Just wasnt the result I think people wanted, and it wasnt a slugfest as so many of the legendary fights are.

I think thats the biggest thing, it wasnt a spectacular watch - it was just one guys defensive skills being way better than the other guys offensive skills. No trading blows, no real hardship.

ianf wrote:Many of the people who watched last nights 'fight of the century' will never have seen a Mayweather fight before. Certainly, a few of my friends stayed up to watch it who had never seen him perform before. I did warn them.

Yeah, I'm not a boxing fan but was considering staying up for something that was touted as the biggest fight ever. Then my mate described exactly what Mayweather would do and said not to bother if I wasn't a boxing fan. So I didn't.

Moz wrote:everyones acting like they've never seen mayweather fight before. he's fought like this for 18 years and never lost a fight, why would he change a winning style...?
to say mayweather was defensive when he landed more punches than manny is kinda strange too.

It was my first time watching him I only found out what kind of guy he was (wife beater etc) a few hours before the fight. It was my first time watching any boxing match since the 90s in fact.

I enjoyed it a lot, though. Didn't find it boring at all except for maybe the last 4 rounds where it became obvious he was gonna win.

Question, would you want to see a rematch? not that I think there will be. But I wouldn't complain if they did tbh.

Ehhh no

I wouldn't complain but I'm hardly clamouring for one. I'd actually be more interested to see Khan fight him at this point, see if he's sorted out his glass chin as he claims. Maybe see one last Mayweather knockout...

If Mayweather is is insistent on fighting in September then he definitely won't fight Khan as he wouldn't have time to properly train for that fight with coming Ramadan in the summer. Hopefully the American media push for that fight when he blitzes Algieri later this month though. The only true tests Mayweather has left that he will realistically fight are Garcia and Khan but I think both pose too much of a threat for Mayweather to bother, especially when he can basically pick anyone in the division, call it his last ever fight, get the PPV buys and retire undefeated before the end of the year.

Yeah I agree with all that. Do wonder whether he'll be tempted to set up two more fights though - neither of them being ones that will particularly challenge him - in order to beat the record of undefeated fights then bow out.

He's not just a master at boxing but also at PR. It's how he absolutely rakes in the money.

Had the fight happened 5 years ago it would've been big but no where near the extent to which it was. It was a fight that most saw never happening and realistically the only fight that Mayweather had left to prove his status as a legend (or near enough) of boxing. So he created a gooseberry fool load of hype around it then dragged out that hype for years. Plus Pacman aged worse than he did over the years which could only be an additional boon.

Quite brilliant really.

It's amazing really, he's boring as gooseberry fool, impossible to cheer for and is never really in danger of losing yet people are more desperate to see him fight than to see anything else sports related on earth.

I think a lot of it just comes down to people really wanting to see him get his comeuppance, which will never happen

ianf wrote:Yeah I agree with all that. Do wonder whether he'll be tempted to set up two more fights though - neither of them being ones that will particularly challenge him - in order to beat the record of undefeated fights then bow out.

I can see him totally doing this.

After watching videos like this



I've come to think he is more like the Spanish national side, in the sense that he's so technical and assured it's up to his opponent to make the fight interesting, not him. It seems like he's just on another level, he takes the sting out of the occasion like Spain do, neutralizes, and i think they both distill their sport to their essence in some way, it's the absence of mistake, pure efficiency, that doesn't allow for spectacle, for risks, for unexpected things to happens.

For teams going against Spain, it's up to them to commit forward, and for Pacquiao it's up to him to not be contained by Mayweather and take the hits if it means unsettling him. Watching the Hatton vs Mayweather fight again, Hatton had him stumbling a bit, and despite taking the hits seemed to make more of an impact than Pacquiao. There's more skill to Mayweather's jedi-like evasive skills than Chelsea's discipline and organization. He's more Iniesta, elegant, intelligent, always sharp, alert and thinking, but also pragmatic.

Watching Pacquiao vs Marquez it's like like a street brawl, like an acceptance that yeah we're both going to get quite messed up here, let's do it anyway.

Feels like we've missed out on the last chance to see Mayweather down though, when he hits more than he gets hit how can anyone beat him?

Good post. Not a huge fan of watching Spain play either mind.

Why does there need to be a football comparison? It's a pointless exercise.