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by Saint of Killers » Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:25 am

Thanks to the veg chat last month I think I've had my best fat loss since last year! Lost a whole stone between 22nd last month and today. Cheers peeps! I've gone with grilled fresh Mediterranean veg in a basil dressing, with prawns cooked in Turmeric. I pretty much have that every evening :lol: Yeah, I'm not one for variety but I really don't care when it tastes gorgeous, looks wonderful and is obviously helping me achieve wonders! Ta for the inspiration :wub: :wub: :wub: :toot:

| (•_•)| S: This is the best date I've been on since my last date. PB: This is not a date.
S: Neither was the last one. It was a robbery. M: Really? S: Yeah. She stole my heart. And my crown. (❍ᴥ❍ʋ)
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by blackoutHERO » Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:07 am

Good man. Keep at it.

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by Saint of Killers » Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:35 am

Thanks! Thankfully, even when I was yo-yo-ing, I kept up with my workouts and (mostly) healthy eating. So even on the rare occasions when I've been gaining weight, it's not been all bad news.

| (•_•)| S: This is the best date I've been on since my last date. PB: This is not a date.
S: Neither was the last one. It was a robbery. M: Really? S: Yeah. She stole my heart. And my crown. (❍ᴥ❍ʋ)
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by blackoutHERO » Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:59 am

I think main thing people get wrong with weight loss is assuming it's linear. I know from speaking with old clients and family members they can lose 5lbs first week (due to water weight, initial enthusiasm etc.) and then when they 'only' lose 2lbs the next they lose motivation and feel they've done something wrong. So yeah, my main adivce for people is always to think of it as a long term loss. Not a weekly one. The weekly weigh ins are important to check progress of course but it's a marathon not a sprint, just like anything fitness related. Except of course sprint training.

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by Saint of Killers » Thu Jun 25, 2020 6:42 am

Heh.

I'm happy as long as I lose something. Also, I heard slow and steady weight loss is a good way to avoid the loose skin issue. So yeah, while a stone in a month had me buzzing, I know that's far from ideal in the long run. Or even possible for that matter. (As I can't be too far from my ideal weight at the moment –I'm a shade under 6ft and bang on 14st, so losing it slowly is fine.)

My biggest bugbear hasn't been so much the lack of fat loss, but the fact I know my food intake hasn't been as on point as it could have been. Hopefully with this evening meal change, that won't be as much of an issue for a while again.

| (•_•)| S: This is the best date I've been on since my last date. PB: This is not a date.
S: Neither was the last one. It was a robbery. M: Really? S: Yeah. She stole my heart. And my crown. (❍ᴥ❍ʋ)
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by That's not a growth » Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:32 pm

I've been steadily losing weight the last year or so, and in winter hoped that I would go from low 80's (kg) to 75 by my Birthday, which is this weekend. This morning I weighed myself after my morning run, and I was 75.7kg. Whilst I see weighing myself after a 10k run on the hottest day of the year cheating a bit (oh god the sweat), it doesn't change how close I am to this goal that much. I'm generally quite happy with my body shape, as I've still been steadily working out these last few months.

I'd now like to go a bit further and get my core and torso a bit more lean. I'm starting to get a little definition on my abs that shows occasionally, but my old love handles are very stubborn. I'm going to cut back more on booze and chocolate and bacon butties after this weekend for, perhaps, 12 weeks and see what I can achieve.

It's odd, I always thought being 6'1 I wouldn't need to get down further than this sort of weight, but I suppose being on the heavy side all my life just means my perception is off about this. It's interesting that I always used to think as long as I was under 90kg I was doing OK, but I should really reconsider that going forwards.

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by Hime » Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:09 pm

That's not a growth wrote:I've been steadily losing weight the last year or so, and in winter hoped that I would go from low 80's (kg) to 75 by my Birthday, which is this weekend. This morning I weighed myself after my morning run, and I was 75.7kg. Whilst I see weighing myself after a 10k run on the hottest day of the year cheating a bit (oh god the sweat), it doesn't change how close I am to this goal that much. I'm generally quite happy with my body shape, as I've still been steadily working out these last few months.

I'd now like to go a bit further and get my core and torso a bit more lean. I'm starting to get a little definition on my abs that shows occasionally, but my old love handles are very stubborn. I'm going to cut back more on booze and chocolate and bacon butties after this weekend for, perhaps, 12 weeks and see what I can achieve.

It's odd, I always thought being 6'1 I wouldn't need to get down further than this sort of weight, but I suppose being on the heavy side all my life just means my perception is off about this. It's interesting that I always used to think as long as I was under 90kg I was doing OK, but I should really reconsider that going forwards.

I think some of that is genetics, I have gotten extremely lean with good six pack and obliques and still had a bit of fat on the live handles. Luckily it doesn't seem to get any worse when I go up in weight.

Got the green light to build a garage gym, trying to decide if I should just go for a half rack or go the bit extra on full rack with cable pulley as that would be pretty much enough for me to never go to the gym again.

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by Rocsteady » Sun Jun 28, 2020 5:43 pm

Full rack, you know you want to

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by Hime » Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:12 pm

Rocsteady wrote:Full rack, you know you want to

I've messaged them and they're going to sell the full rack without pulley which knocks a couple of hundred off the price...

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by Rocsteady » Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:29 am

Hime wrote:
Rocsteady wrote:Full rack, you know you want to

I've messaged them and they're going to sell the full rack without pulley which knocks a couple of hundred off the price...

Sounds great, post pics when it's all up!

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by blackoutHERO » Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:22 am

Full rack only real choice.

Go hard or go to the gym.

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by Hime » Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:10 pm

Pulley or no pulley? I'm in two minds, I love using cables but I don't know if a plate loaded pulley will be the same. I could put that couple of hundred towards a proper cable machine or dumbbell rack down the line.

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by blackoutHERO » Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:22 pm

You got a link to it?

I'm a fan of cable machines but never had a 'plate loaded' one before so can't talk on the stability of that but cable machines have been very versatile in my experience especially with handle attachments and if you're able to alter the height of the handles.

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by Hime » Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:58 pm

blackoutHERO wrote:You got a link to it?

I'm a fan of cable machines but never had a 'plate loaded' one before so can't talk on the stability of that but cable machines have been very versatile in my experience especially with handle attachments and if you're able to alter the height of the handles.

That might not be the correct terminology but they are just a pulley attached to the rack and you add plates to and can only use it in one or two positions so would only be any good for lat pulldowns, face pulls, tricep push downs etc. They're fairly primitive compared to the cable machines you'd get in a gym, I suppose you could call them the purest form of a pulley.

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by blackoutHERO » Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:33 pm

Well then I think you're probably right to skip it and use the money elsewhere. Although couple hundred quid might be a good deal thinking about it. Depends how much you were planning on spending really.

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by Harry Bizzle » Mon Jun 29, 2020 3:25 pm

Does anyone have a body fat estimation method which they'd recommend? My scales do one but it's absolutely worthless and sits at 18-20% regardless of huge fluctuations in weight. I'm thinking more along the lines of callipers or various weight and body measurement formulas.

I've been cutting since mid-March, which has been interesting with the lockdown meaning I haven't been able to train as I normally would.

I'm at 12 weeks of dieting (with one week at maintenance at about week 8 or 9) and have been steadily losing weight at slightly more than 0.5kg a week (84kg to 77.6kg morning weight yesterday). I don't think I've lost significant muscle but it's difficult to tell when I can't lift the weights I normally would to test my strength.


The reason I ask is because I thought I was starting this cut at about 15-18% bodyfat but looking back at my progress pictures, this appears to have been nigh on delusional and I was probably closer to 18-20%. I think I'm now closer to 15% but am not really sure if I'm a bit above or below that and I think I'd like to aim for closer to 10-12% bodyfat before starting a bulk which would ideally be capped at around 15%.

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by Hime » Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:08 pm

Harry Bizzle wrote:Does anyone have a body fat estimation method which they'd recommend? My scales do one but it's absolutely worthless and sits at 18-20% regardless of huge fluctuations in weight. I'm thinking more along the lines of callipers or various weight and body measurement formulas.

I've been cutting since mid-March, which has been interesting with the lockdown meaning I haven't been able to train as I normally would.

I'm at 12 weeks of dieting (with one week at maintenance at about week 8 or 9) and have been steadily losing weight at slightly more than 0.5kg a week (84kg to 77.6kg morning weight yesterday). I don't think I've lost significant muscle but it's difficult to tell when I can't lift the weights I normally would to test my strength.


The reason I ask is because I thought I was starting this cut at about 15-18% bodyfat but looking back at my progress pictures, this appears to have been nigh on delusional and I was probably closer to 18-20%. I think I'm now closer to 15% but am not really sure if I'm a bit above or below that and I think I'd like to aim for closer to 10-12% bodyfat before starting a bulk which would ideally be capped at around 15%.

Honestly the only thing I'd go by as a rough guess is 'how defined are my abs?' then when my belly button goes a bit weird I know I'm lean. The accuracy of all the well known methods of testing are widely disputed.

I believe the importance of body fat estimation is hugely overblown in this context in that you start to believe the lower the better when you might get peeled abs but look close to death in a T-Shirt.

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by blackoutHERO » Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:11 pm

Best measure in my opinion is just visually if you're able to post a pic or find a comparison chart.

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by Harry Bizzle » Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:06 am

Thanks. I'm not too fussed if I don't look good in a shirt. I don't really care what people think of how I look an I tend to wear baggy stuff in the gym to hide my power level, anyway.

My main reasons for wanting to get to around 10% are to see if I can do it, to be able to bulk and cut up and down between 10 and 15% and being in that range also helps make more meaningful comparisons comparing my own weight with other people of my height.

Have had a look at some comparisons and reckon I'm about 15%. Would post an accurate pic but I caught my reflection in a car window the other day and have decided to only acknowledge my own existence in convex mirrors.

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I don't have any plans to be on a beach any time soon but might try to park a giant car right on the shore so people get the full experience at all times.

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by blackoutHERO » Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:48 am

Big lad.

Obviously it's hard to tell in a distorted picture but to me you look less than 15% since your abs are pretty visible. Looks closer to 12%.


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