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Rocsteady wrote:Shakes are a good shout, the farts though

Better or worse than 15 servings of vegetables

Has anyone else tried intermittent fasting? I'm not strictly fasting but I've found moving meal times really helpful for shift work, the fact me and the missus normally eat late and being able to have one big meal a day.

Did IF for over a year about 6-7 years ago and did it for about 6 months recently. Once I lost my job I stopped the fasting and haven't gone back yet. I like it though. Feel good for it, lifts didn't suffer, felt more alert in the mornings at work and actually looked forward to a big lunch.

Will get back to it once I recover from all this and get my life on track again.

Does anyone know of/recommend a fitness DVD which is about upper body (no equipment), I'm coming back from a him injury so can't do one which is mixed with lots of running in the spot/jump squats etc.

I know I could put together a session through various exercises, but what I really want is someone timing out exercises etc for added motivation.

Struggling with motivation for workouts at the moment, was doing the A/B home workout posted on here a while back, started well but now a bit bored of it. Ordered some resistance bands but they are taking an age to arrive. Considering ordering dumbbells/a kettlebell, but mostly seem to be sold out or now very expensive.

Luckily I'm doing a lot more running and making good progress, so I'm still exercising, but the thought of gyms presumably being one of the last places to open is daunting.

Yeah I just cannot keep on top of it. I'm also eating so much less than usual, I can practically feel any muscle I had dropping off and my wife has commented that I'm looking skinny these days! Guess the regular running isn't helping there...

Need to get back to the gym, really. There's only so much that can be done and because of that, it makes it so much harder to be fully-motivated to keep on top of the things that can be done.

I'm lucky in that losing weight is one of my main goals right now, and isn't really any more difficult than normal to achieve in this current situation. In fact, it's a little easier since there's no impulse buying for me currently, and I can't justify overeating by lying to myself and say it's good for the gains.

Still working out, and only missed about 2 or 3 sessions these last 9 weeks of me working out at home. I'm still lifting water bottles in buckets and a washing basket, and using pull up bars. It's going well, and I'm able to incrementally increase the weight of exercises which really helps keep me motivated. I think I too would be finding it difficult if I were only doing bodyweight exercises.

Yoga is still horrible, but I'm getting a little bit better at it, but I don't think I would ever do it in a group - it would be far too embarrassing.

Went for a 17k run on Sunday after drinking a bottle of wine and 3 large glasses of bourbon on Saturday evening while chatting to mates. Not doing that again, let me tell you.

If I do another spilt squat it will be too soon.

Worst thing about getting fit and losing weight/humblebrag: I can now nick my Adam's apple with ridiculous ease while shaving or you know, even just by looking at it in the mirror.

Ecno wrote:Does anyone know of/recommend a fitness DVD which is about upper body (no equipment), I'm coming back from a him injury so can't do one which is mixed with lots of running in the spot/jump squats etc.

I know I could put together a session through various exercises, but what I really want is someone timing out exercises etc for added motivation.

A lot of these have weights, some don't, but you could just do them without: https://www.youtube.com/user/KozakSport ... =Upperbody The channel has tons of workouts you could adapt. This is another good one to get ideas from: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjnHUD ... E6TfXEl2UQ but he doesn't workout with you in all of them. I know you wanted a fitness DVD but I think these would make for a good substitute.
Is your recouperation going well?

I'm still doing the A/B routine with kettlebell deadlifts and split squats thrown in occasionally but yeah, I've lost motivation to strawberry float. Manage it 2 or 3 times a week but it's pretty lazily done, I've clearly lost muscle mass, gotten smaller arms and a considerably bigger belly.

I'm hoping that by start July, Poland will be in a state where gyms are open and it's safe for me to enter. Looking realistic so far thankfully. Been closed since the very start of March.

The resistance bands I ordered finally arrived, just in time as well as I managed to hurt my ankle running the other day, so not been out running since.

Done a couple of workouts with them and I got DOMS for the first time in weeks! Feels good! But also made me realise how much I've missed the actual gym and no doubt how much progress I've lost.

Saint of Killers wrote:Worst thing about getting fit and losing weight/humblebrag: I can now nick my Adam's apple with ridiculous ease while shaving or you know, even just by looking at it in the mirror.

Ecno wrote:Does anyone know of/recommend a fitness DVD which is about upper body (no equipment), I'm coming back from a him injury so can't do one which is mixed with lots of running in the spot/jump squats etc.

I know I could put together a session through various exercises, but what I really want is someone timing out exercises etc for added motivation.

A lot of these have weights, some don't, but you could just do them without: https://www.youtube.com/user/KozakSport ... =Upperbody The channel has tons of workouts you could adapt. This is another good one to get ideas from: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjnHUD ... E6TfXEl2UQ but he doesn't workout with you in all of them. I know you wanted a fitness DVD but I think these would make for a good substitute.
Is your recouperation going well?

It's going ok. I lost access to my physio following covid. It's now been 7 months, it doesn't tend to hurt whilst running but is now sore for a few days afterwards, and sometimes feels a bit iffy around the house randomly.

I've been trying to do 3 runs of 5k each week, but I think that's slightly too much at the moment and is slowing recovery.

Have you been able to chat to a physio? Those runs definitely sound like they're hampering your recovery.

Saint of Killers wrote:Have you been able to chat to a physio? Those runs definitely sound like they're hampering your recovery.

We had a couple of calls in the first few weeks of April.

I was in the middle of gradually building up the running. Was supposed to get to 3 runs of about 25 minutes at the end of April/Start of May. Only really managed it in the last couple of weeks. But will probably drop the mileage slight for a couple of weeks.

Sounds trite but yeah, listen to your body.

Three 5k runs a week would do me over when I'm in peak condition, let alone trying to recover from an injury!

Down to 178lbs now and not sure if I should keep cutting. I'm really happy with my physique but much like the theme of Rocsteady's thread I know that I could be leaner. The problem is both cutting while doing suboptimal training and looking really skinny with a t-shirt on just to have slightly more defined abs.

My mentality is that since I can't get to the gym to lift properly now is a decent time to cut, with an aim of clean bulking once lock down is done. Knowing me it won't work out like that, but a man can dream.

In cutting as well, feel pretty good about it. Feel nice and light in day to day life at the moment.

Don't fill out my t shirts as well as I used to but it got the point where I didn't really have an option not to cut. Cut down my daily meals from 5 to essentially 3.5 and was still gaining belly fat, is crazy how many calories heavy lifting must burn.

Also, gyms here are opening up on June 6. My immune system is pretty ruined so not sure I'm day 1 but doubt I'll be able to hold out for long.

Winckle wrote:I don’t consider myself a gym bro by any means, but I’ve been losing weight and getting healthier and it’s tough to stay on track when the only exercises I’ve ever enjoyed in my life are now off limits to me. It’s also disheartening knowing that I’ve lost a lot of my strength and will have to start my progression from he beginning again.

Also going the gym and burning calories accelerated my weight loss, I’ve had to cut my eating back to less than 1,700 calories a day, which isn’t that fun.

Yeah you've done incredibly well! You started at a very heavy 130kg from memory? I was happy with getting from 105kg to 80kg (I herniated a disc and did no exercise and just ballooned up) but I think you've lost more total weight from a tougher starting point.

When you get to be that size, most cardio options just become very difficult to get good at since stamina will be low and injury risk is so high (130kg dudes do not have knee joints and ligaments prepared for running) whilst weight training lets you see progress much easier and earlier and the overall larger body lets you keep see progress for longer too.

The good thing is that muscle memory isn't actually Bro Science but legit science so regaining gains really do occur much faster than the original time to reach it. I went 5 years without weight training between 2011 and 2016. It had taken me years to bench press 100kg for reps and a PB of 112.5kg. After my long hiatus I regained the vast majority of my strength and size within 3 months and set a new PB of 120kg (whilst weighing less too) after 9 months of training.

Less than 1700 calories would have me utterly miserable! I've been aiming to do 10,000 steps each day which according to Fitbit usually gets my total calories burnt to 3100 or 3300. Even assuming it's over estimating true calories burnt figure by 15% it would still be a huge calorie deficit.

Dieting during lockdown is harder in some respects too since I'm really bored of cooking so many meals for myself so my takeaway frequency has increased a lot. Thankfully I'm reaching nearly 100 days without alcohol so those calories not being consumed help offset the damage done by increasing frequency of takeaway!

Thankfully we're hopefully less than a month away from experiencing the absolute worst DOMS of all time when we go crazy at the gym!

Grumpy David wrote:

Winckle wrote:I don’t consider myself a gym bro by any means, but I’ve been losing weight and getting healthier and it’s tough to stay on track when the only exercises I’ve ever enjoyed in my life are now off limits to me. It’s also disheartening knowing that I’ve lost a lot of my strength and will have to start my progression from he beginning again.

Also going the gym and burning calories accelerated my weight loss, I’ve had to cut my eating back to less than 1,700 calories a day, which isn’t that fun.

Yeah you've done incredibly well! You started at a very heavy 130kg from memory? I was happy with getting from 105kg to 80kg (I herniated a disc and did no exercise and just ballooned up) but I think you've lost more total weight from a tougher starting point.

When you get to be that size, most cardio options just become very difficult to get good at since stamina will be low and injury risk is so high (130kg dudes do not have knee joints and ligaments prepared for running) whilst weight training lets you see progress much easier and earlier and the overall larger body lets you keep see progress for longer too.

The good thing is that muscle memory isn't actually Bro Science but legit science so regaining gains really do occur much faster than the original time to reach it. I went 5 years without weight training between 2011 and 2016. It had taken me years to bench press 100kg for reps and a PB of 112.5kg. After my long hiatus I regained the vast majority of my strength and size within 3 months and set a new PB of 120kg (whilst weighing less too) after 9 months of training.

Less than 1700 calories would have me utterly miserable! I've been aiming to do 10,000 steps each day which according to Fitbit usually gets my total calories burnt to 3100 or 3300. Even assuming it's over estimating true calories burnt figure by 15% it would still be a huge calorie deficit.

Dieting during lockdown is harder in some respects too since I'm really bored of cooking so many meals for myself so my takeaway frequency has increased a lot. Thankfully I'm reaching nearly 100 days without alcohol so those calories not being consumed help offset the damage done by increasing frequency of takeaway!

Thankfully we're hopefully less than a month away from experiencing the absolute worst DOMS of all time when we go crazy at the gym!

I was 136KG last March when I started trying to get my weight under control, I'm currently 99KG, I was 98KG last week but then a BBQ happened.

I'm glad to hear that you can get it back quickly, is there any research on why that is? I've hardly drank at all for a while, and virtually nothing since the football stopped, I would usually have 2 pints at Anfield.

As for DOMS, we'll all be walking down the stairs backwards the day after our first sets of squats.

Here's a before/after: