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PostRe: Ha
by JNR » Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:14 am

My Human Gets Me Blues wrote:Wished us luck with GRcade, now posting on Random Fury!, rllmuk and NeoGAF.

He does have an account here but I'm not surprised he doesn't post.


Who is the guy using his avatar then?!

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PostRe: Ha
by Cuttooth » Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:15 am

Oh. :(

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PostRe: Ha
by Mockmaster » Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:16 am

JNR wrote:
My Human Gets Me Blues wrote:Wished us luck with GRcade, now posting on Random Fury!, rllmuk and NeoGAF.

He does have an account here but I'm not surprised he doesn't post.


Who is the guy using his avatar then?!



Charles Manson, aka the-elbo

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PostRe: Ha
by Johnny Ryall » Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:18 am

Eighthours wrote:
chalkitdown wrote:Blatent 'shop.


If I turn green, I'll move it here to show you.


Go on then. ;)

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PostRe: Ha
by Corazon de Leon » Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:20 am

Mockmaster wrote:
JNR wrote:
My Human Gets Me Blues wrote:Wished us luck with GRcade, now posting on Random Fury!, rllmuk and NeoGAF.

He does have an account here but I'm not surprised he doesn't post.


Who is the guy using his avatar then?!



Charles Manson, aka the-elbo


What?

Seriously? :lol:

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PostRe: Ha
by Parksey » Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:28 am

I never realised that either! And now the real melatonin isn't posting here.

Crap, couldn't we have just modded the-elbo and nobody told me he wasn't real? I would have been happy and ignorant.

Now, I'm just ignorant.

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PostRe: Ha
by Drawlight » Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:29 am

So, Eighthours is now a mod.

Interesting how forum politics work.

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PostRe: Ha
by Spindash » Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:30 am

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The fascists have acted.

WEVOLUTION!

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PostRe: Ha
by Oh Teh Noes » Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:55 am

Heh, I thought Charles Manson was melatonin too. But it turns out he's Elbo.

And Eighthours is a moderator again.

THE PLOT THICKENS.

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PostRe: Ha
by Parksey » Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:01 am

Oh Teh Noes wrote:Heh, I thought Charles Manson was melatonin too. But it turns out he's Elbo.

And Eighthours is a moderator again.

THE PLOT THICKENS.


It never really thins out again round here, though. The plot is always custardy in substance. Cold custard, as well, as it always gets runnier when it's warm.

Which is okay y'know, if you like custard.

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PostRe: Ha
by Oh Teh Noes » Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:12 am

If you filled a swimming pool with the plot, you could walk across it.

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PostRe: Ha
by Green Gecko » Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:06 am

What a load of mong. A few things:

(1) tnman posting the topic was an honest mistake and was not done with proper consultation with the rest of the mods or admins, nevermind founders (we don't decide anything, we just have the opportunity to suggest stuff and, for the most part, stand for the best of other previous GR vets, cue Suzzopher, Akai, sarge etc., all none of which were never mods before and none of which I can recall any major discontentments with.) He did this because I and one other founder I think (Cal?) agreed that a topic could be posted, and nobody else, not even one mod. He was mistaken in that such considerations should have been given time for his fellow mods. This shouldn't have happened. The topic was left to go for so long because mods and Eight began posting in it so much, and there was such an overwhelming and fast response to the topic, that if it were locked, the cries of "fix!" would have been impossible to reconcile, goddamn conspirators. It was a mistake, but half didn't know whether it was a mistake or not and so ran with it, and half thought it was a mistake but where not in a position to end it. A line should have been drawn sooner.

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(2) Frankly I don't think anyone should care for the poll, which was 1 point in favor to Eighthours anyway. It is way too easy to rig forum polls with alt accounts and people pissing around to make it more dramatic, initial confusion in the topic over whether or not Eight was seriously considering the mod position, etc. Garth recognised bogus accounts attempting to rig the poll. A great deal of verbal posts in the topic favored Eightours, and all of (I think) the existing mods supported him being elected, as did Garth and Steve. Those who were truly discontent with Eight had their opportunity to speak their mind and either didn't bother (count how many noes there were in the poll compared to the posts in the topic) and those that disagreed were in the minority. So, Eighthours is modded. Holy crap!

(3) Just like old GR, mods will be appointed by mods if they reckon they can do a good job. Meanwhile anyone is free to campaign, just like for Petercrisp and Parksey in the past, for anyone they think would make a great mod when mods are needed, and this will obviously be taken into consideration by mods. This is just how it always was, and if we stick with that, it's all good, right?

(4) Some of you, please stop crying wolf so much. We as a community had to migrate this place over so fast that there are inevitably going to be teething problems. Yes, some of it is a bit ad-lib. Yes, some of the rules have to be patched up as and when issues arise. Yes some things will be trialed and shot down and yes sometimes we will disagree with each other or someone will abstain or someone just won't be there to comment and so that will result in fragmented, less-than-perfect rollouts of rules/features/decisions/policies/whatever. Regardless of all of this, if anyone honestly thinks that this place is a farce, that it leaves anything to be desired compared to the old GR, that it is unfairly run and that there is some grand power mad clique behind the whole thing: let us know how you would do it better.

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PostRe: Ha
by Oblomov Boblomov » Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:08 am

Green Gecko wrote:(2) Frankly I don't think anyone should care for the poll, which was 1 point in favor to Eighthours anyway. It is way too easy to rig forum polls with alt accounts and people pissing around to make it more dramatic, initial confusion in the topic over whether or not Eight was seriously considering the mod position, etc. Garth recognised bogus accounts attempting to rig the poll. A great deal of verbal posts in the topic favored Eightours, and all of (I think) the existing mods supported him being elected, as did Garth and Steve. Those who were truly discontent with Eight had their opportunity to speak their mind and either didn't bother (count how many noes there were in the poll compared to the posts in the topic) and those that disagreed were in the minority. So, Eighthours is modded. Holy crap!


I do find it suspicious how the last I saw of the poll was with the yes option holding a two point deficit, merely seconds before it was moved. It is also strange how it suddenly went from something like 72-80 to 81-80 in a matter of minutes. Also, I don't see how it can really be considered a majority vote of popular opinion when the only vote settling it was his own.

Do you really think people who don't want him to be modded up because they think he's, allow me to fabricate an example here, a stuck up wanker are going to post saying so? No, because then they'll be the wankers. No one's going to bother posting negative stuff, because it would be pathetic and inappropriate, not to mention rude. People chose no in the poll and that should be enough. Yes, it is open to abuse and that's why I suggested another poll in which people actually write out their vote, without obligation of explanation. Rather predictably, this suggestion went ignored.

My advice would be to tell me and everyone else who feels that their vote should count to strawberry float off (politely, of course ;)). The creators of this forum want someone to be a moderator, why should anyone who chooses to come here have a say in it? We don't pay anything towards this website (involuntarily) and it's a strawberry floating internet forum :lol: not a government. Okay so what I'm getting at is that it's all Tnman's fault for making it in the first place, effectively bringing this debate back to square one.

Damn.

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PostRe: Ha
by Green Gecko » Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:24 am

If you want to discount an Eightours self-vote then it's still a draw. Votes pretty much never come that close. I've never seen a poll that close before. So it's hard to believe it wasn't a joke and there certainly where bogus accounts involved on both sides of the equation. I bet a bunch of people waited to vote until the last minute just for the sake of drama.

I actually did also suggest a new, more official/serious vote using only written posts. I have suggested that this be the way it is done in the future. Eighthours suggested a re-poll later down the line so I would expect this to happen. He's not going to want to mod if the majority of the community want him to piss off.

Steve and the other mods seem to have come to the conclusion that modship shouldn't be put to public vote, as it never was in the past. In their experience I'll leave that decision to them; I can't really make a difference either way as they have moderated this community for years and so what they reckon has more practical substance.

Dodgy poll or not, there are those that condone Eight and those that don't. Verbally it looks to be in his favour anyway but even if that's not the case I don't think anyone would argue it's anything other than a draw. Ultimately the previous mods have the swaying power here as they are the ones that have successfully moderated the forum for so long in the past, so I don't see any point in arguing with them.

If Eighthour's modship truly upsets enough people then I'm sure he'll step down voluntarily because he's not a power hungry prick that enjoys people disliking him. Remember that he stepped down from being a mod originally because he couldn't be bothered with the negative baggage and scathing attached to his role by some.

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PostRe: Ha
by Hexx » Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:13 am

Oh lordy loo.

:lol:

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PostRe: Ha
by Commander Jameson » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:24 am

Open for two weeks and already there is infighting and factionalisation. Its like Iraq all over again. I said it would happen. I was all like "Sarge, don't post the poll in OT, man. Don't strawberry floating post it!" and he's like all "Why? The people have a right to vote." and I'm like "No strawberry floating way, man, you can't trust the muthafuckin' people to vote right."

Did he listen. No. So, for the final time, could the mods, admin and founding fathers just grow some balls, make a decision and stick with it? And could the illiterate scum of a user base just stop whinging and be a bit strawberry floating grateful for this reborn bastion of bad ol' GR?

Christ people. Live and let strawberry floating live.

Sarge

PostRe: Ha
by Sarge » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:33 am

Commander Jameson wrote:Open for two weeks and already there is infighting and factionalisation. Its like Iraq all over again. I said it would happen. I was all like "Sarge, don't post the poll in OT, man. Don't strawberry floating post it!" and he's like all "Why? The people have a right to vote." and I'm like "No strawberry floating way, man, you can't trust the muthafuckin' people to vote right."

Did he listen. No. So, for the final time, could the mods, admin and founding fathers just grow some balls, make a decision and stick with it? And could the illiterate scum of a user base just stop whinging and be a bit strawberry floating grateful for this reborn bastion of bad ol' GR?

Christ people. Live and let strawberry floating live.


Hey now, I'm not going to take the blame for how the vote went...I only wanted to make sure as many people as possible knew what was happening.

If I had known that people would start playing silly buggers when it came to voting, I would have just left it as it was... :lol:

Still, it was our first epic lulz thread & Eighty is now a mod so it all worked out in the end.

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PostRe: Ha
by Drunken_Master » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:35 am

Eighty's a MOD?

Gentlemen, I believe a game of MOD races should now on the cards.

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PostRe: Ha
by Green Gecko » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:42 am

Commander Jameson wrote:Open for two weeks and already there is infighting and factionalisation. Its like Iraq all over again. I said it would happen. I was all like "Sarge, don't post the poll in OT, man. Don't strawberry floating post it!" and he's like all "Why? The people have a right to vote." and I'm like "No strawberry floating way, man, you can't trust the muthafuckin' people to vote right."

Did he listen. No. So, for the final time, could the mods, admin and founding fathers just grow some balls, make a decision and stick with it? And could the illiterate scum of a user base just stop whinging and be a bit strawberry floating grateful for this reborn bastion of bad ol' GR?

Christ people. Live and let strawberry floating live.

:lol: Well said. I imagined that picture with the massive cigar from ages ago while reading that, speaking in a gruff voice, chewing gratuitously.

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PostRe: Ha
by Vermin » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:53 am

Q: Why did the mods remove the poll?

A:
Because they're brilliant!


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