Denster presents: The 4K/8K HDR HDTV Thread

Just what I want on my telly, an NFT art store. :lol:

So many things to switch off. Can't wait.

I'm pretty sure I'm going to get a new TV near Christmas this year.

I'm thinking the LG C3 will be the best bang for buck option.
Can anyone with a C2 confirm how good it is for gaming as that will be it's main usage?

Peter Crisp wrote:I'm pretty sure I'm going to get a new TV near Christmas this year.

I'm thinking the LG C3 will be the best bang for buck option.
Can anyone with a C2 confirm how good it is for gaming as that will be it's main usage?

I've had the C2 over the week and I think it's a fantastic TV.

The PS5 with a low lag input and VRR. It's so smooth and silky. There are a lot of tools that you can edit and set up to match how you want.

The OLED screen is vibrant and crispy! :shock:

I spent all day yesterday writing scripts to re-encode my 4k movies because of the strawberry floating lg licensing bullshit

It can take Dolby vision but it can’t take it in native form from the native plex app - so if you don’t want to buy a device like a shield to decode recode for you then you have to bugger about to get the tv to accept it without changing all the colours to purple and green

On top of that it doesn’t take any form of dts surround sound (which I knew) but that means it also won’t open a file which has any audio track which is dts based, even if you aren’t playing that track - so then you have to re-encode the audio to 6 channel ac3

What a pain in the banana split

Long story short if you want to do Dolby vision and surround sound without bother don’t waste your time on the native plex app and just get a shield or some gooseberry fool - an additional 150 odd up front cost, unacceptable for a tv in this price bracket tbh

If anyone wants my script to do it automatically I’ll sell it for 100, relative bargain

Having a media wall built. It's coming along nicely!

Currently on the fence about whether to pick up a new TV soonish. I’ve never been one for top of the line sets, and always fall on the budget side of things. I picked up a 4K Samsung UE49NU7100 almost four years ago to the day for £380 and I’ve been really happy with it for TV, 4K Blu-ray and gaming and I’d quite happily keep using it for another year or two but the thing’s developed quite a bit of light bleed over the last six months or so, and it’s getting quite distracting. Wondering whether to attempt a repair or not.

Anyone got a Hisense tv? I've got the A7G QLED and the picture quality is phenomenal. Though the TV's operating sustem (VIDAA) is the absolute gooseberry fools. I've looked online and there's no way to uninstall it. Anyone had similar issues with a hisense tv.

Sony revealed their new 2023 range yesterday:

A95L QD-OLED (2nd Generation Samsung Display) model:

- Up to 200% brighter at its peak than the A95K 2022 model.
- Supports Dolby Vision for gaming, the only Sony set to do so. Sony has yet to clarify however if this goes all the way up to 4K/120Hz.
- Support for 4K/120Hz, with VRR and ALLM.
- MultiView, allowing users to split the screen into two windows (so you can play a game in one window while simultaneously watching a YouTube video in the other).
- A new stand, which can be raised to accompany a soundbar underneath.
- A new dedicated GAME menu designed in conjunction with their PlayStation devision, including screen-resizing, crosshair aiming support and advanced black equaliser settings.

The rest of the line-up:

No update to the number of 2.1 HDMI ports (still two) or the smaller 42" OLED released in 2022 unfortunately.

MultiView, allowing users to split the screen into two windows (so you can play a game in one window while simultaneously watching a YouTube video in the other).

Either going to be some oddly shaped windows, or a whole load of unused screen space (which I shouldn't think will be great for OLED image retention).

Presumably not playing any ps5 games on the second screen

Apparently 'competitive gamers' like to play on smaller screens, which is how the screen-resizing thing has come about ('have you thought about, oh I dunno, just purchasing a smaller screen?')

Rtings.com are currently running a burn-in test on MLA WOLED/QD-OLED screens (in which they basically run CNN non-stop since last November) and LG's 2022 G2 and C2 OLED TVs are currently completely free of any permanent image retention, whereas Samsung QD-OLED screens (used in the Samsung S95B and Sony A95K) are both showing signs of image burn-in.

This test led to LG having a press call this week to crow about it.

During an invite-only online media event organized by LG, the company was focused on a single message: Samsung’s OLED TVs have a burn-in problem and we all need to know about it.

Rather than using its own in-house testing, LG instead has used a set of long-term test results from rtings.com, a review site known for its in-depth, measurements-based product evaluations.

The test in question was performed on Samsung’s first QD-OLED TV, the 65-inch 2022 S95B, a TV that uses quantum dots combined with blue OLED pixels to achieve its full-spectrum RGB color. Rtings.com found that if left the same image displayed on the S95B for days at a time, with brightness set to maximum, permanent image retention occurred. The same test also apparently was performed on Sony’s 2022 A95K — the only other model that uses Samsung’s first-gen QD-OLED panel — with similar, yet slightly less-pronounced results.

LG Display was also quick to point out that LG’s 2022 G2 and C2 evo OLED models, which were also subjected to the same punishment, appeared to come away unscathed, or at least with no perceptible damage in the photos that were shown to attendees.

LG Display explained that the reason its panels fared better is thanks to its use of white subpixels. The deeper meaning of this explanation was lost on no one. Samsung has made LG’s white subpixel a prime target in its promotion of QD-OLED panels, claiming that the white subpixel reduces color accuracy by washing out the adjacent subpixels.

For its part, LG is now striking back by saying that without the brightness boost afforded by those white subpixels, Samsung is pushing its own OLED pixels too hard and that burn-in is the consequence of doing so.

Having a bit of an arseache with my new C2. Any time I switch between HDMI inputs the TV loses all audio and nothing short of powering the set off seems to bring it back. Have seen a bunch of people who said a software update a few months ago gave them the same problem, but no apparent solutions short of switching it off and on again.

If it definitely looks like being a software issue, you could reset the television (and therefore the firmware) back to factory settings. Worth making a note of the settings before you do so it’s easier to put them back to your desired preference.

You can then either leave it as it is or update the software again and see if the issue reappears.

I’ll give that a try tonight, I followed someone else’s calibration which gave me settings I’m really happy with so setting them back up again won’t be a problem after a factory reset.

Rtings.com burn-in tests show Samsung's QD-OLED technology suffers from worse burn-in compared to LG's WOLED

Following extensive accelerated longevity testing from Rtings.com over the course of 4 months, results have revealed that WOLED TVs are more robust at resisting burn-in than the latest QD-OLED panels.

Rtings reports that both QD-OLED displays supplied by Samsung and featuring in Samsung's own S95B OLED and shared with Sony's A95K showed signs of image retention, with the QD-OLED displays suffering from worse problems compared to LG's more established WOLED.

In comparison, the LG C2 OLED and the LG G2 OLED are completely free of burn-in.

Rtings also ran a video of alternating colored slides instead of the CNN feed to see if this would reduce image retention on the two QD-OLED TVs. The retention clearing video was ran for about a week (126 hours), following their regular test schedule to allow the TVs to run their compensation cycles. After running this test, the amount of image retention didn't decrease at all, with it actually looking worse.

For the full analysis, check out the video below:

Obviously very few people use their TVs in this manner, but you're probably not looking at a TV with anywhere near as much longevity as more established LCD and OLED panels.

I don’t really get the obsession with increasing brightness. My CX is capable of uncomfortably high brightness, so I have it nowhere near a high setting. If the new tech enables higher brightness but at greater risk of burn-in, it seems like a bad trade off all round.

I’ve long since given up fretting about image retention. If I pause a game/film for a few minutes, I’ll turn the TV off, and I avoid lengthy sessions on things like retro games that have fixed borders. Beyond that, it’s not worth the worry.

If a TV doesn't have the ability to blind you in 1 millionth of a second then it's total gooseberry fool.

Has anyone ever come across any good systems for raising a TV to accommodate sound bars? I'm not looking to wall-mount.

Short version is I'm looking to get a new TV along with a Sonos Arc soundbar for minimalist purposes. While I would like separate speakers and amp, the room can't accommodate it. The problem is that the Sonos Arc seems to be about 9cm high, and a significant number of new TVs don't have stands that high.

The TV I'm looking at is the LG C2, since the consensus seems to be that it's still one of the nicest sets out there (?). However, rather than limiting my TV choice due to the size of the stand it comes with, I'm looking for ways to neatly raise the height of the TV instead.

Has anyone come across any good solutions?

Denster presents: The 4K/8K HDR HDTV Thread

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