Denster presents: The 4K/8K HDR HDTV Thread

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PostRe: Denster presents: The 4K/8K HDR HDTV Thread
by KK » Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:04 pm

No 8K content available yet, aside from a few YouTube videos. I think some movies have been shot in 8K but they’re not available to purchase or rent. Olympics 2020 is the first real major event, but only in Japan and possibly somewhere like South Korea.

I wouldn’t buy an 8K TV until next year at the earliest, but even then the PS5 and the new Xbox are going to have severely limited functionality in that area.

The Samsung 8K TV is very good though, however motion isn’t on a par with the high end 4K TVs, there’s no support for Dolby Vision last time I looked, and there’s only one HDMI 2.1 port (which is going to be a major problem down the line).

Buy an LG OLED and the 2 grand you’ve saved can be put towards an 8K TV in 2024/5 would be my personal choice. Or if you must have the Samsung 8K now, definitely wait until next year.

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by KK » Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:09 pm

According to new Ofcom figures 35% of the UK population now has a 4K capable TV. 48% meanwhile have a “Smart TV”, which is any HD or 4K TV that can connect to the internet, either directly or through a bolt-on such as an Amazon Fire Stick or NowTV.

Wonder how many of those are still watching on a DVD player with SCART...

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by Mommy » Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:20 pm

My mum has a Toshiba 36ZP18Q in her front room. 36" CRT weighing about 18 stone.

Time for an upgrade.

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by PatSharpsMullet » Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:22 pm

Mommy Christmas wrote:My mum has a Toshiba 36ZP18Q in her front room. 36" CRT weighing about 18 stone.

Time for an upgrade.

Why would you want a better Mum? :shifty:

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by Mommy » Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:49 pm

RuudGullitSittingOnAShed wrote:
Mommy Christmas wrote:My mum has a Toshiba 36ZP18Q in her front room. 36" CRT weighing about 18 stone.

Time for an upgrade.

Why would you want a better Mum? :shifty:

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Id like new lungs for this one.

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by Peter Crisp » Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:55 pm

SingSongOnHigh wrote:I'm looking for some advice. Is it worth buying the Samsung 8K TV? Is it better than LG and Sony OLED? I was looking in Curry's and there isn't that much price difference only a few hundred


8k is pointless at the moment.
You'd be better getting a 4K set that'll be a better model and likely have some change left.

I posted a video in this topic a while ago of a test with people looking at both 4 and 8k sets and they couldn't tell which was 8k.

jiggles wrote:Nobody with a VR headset is going to be using it regularly this time next year, let alone in 4 years time.


Posted 16th March 2016. Let's see.
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by KK » Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:05 pm

£2,999 at John Lewis (though it has gone a few hundred lower), whereas LG’s OLEDs are £1,099, £1,399 and £1,999. So you could purchase the B9 and the 2 grand you saved could be put down for a great 8K set in a few years.

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by Peter Crisp » Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:14 pm

Is 8K content even available yet?
I know the Olympics in Japan are going to be in 8K but what else?

jiggles wrote:Nobody with a VR headset is going to be using it regularly this time next year, let alone in 4 years time.


Posted 16th March 2016. Let's see.
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by KK » Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:43 pm

Only a few YouTube videos as far as I’m aware. Then probably a few lightweight PS5 and Xbox games in 2020, alongside some 8K movies and TV shows via streaming (I read Rakuten and Netflix are doing something).

I don’t know if there will be 8K Blu Ray players, though I guess so.

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by Peter Crisp » Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:48 pm

I have a feeling that trying to get the next gen consoles to do 8k would be like trying to get the launch ps4 or xbox to do 4k. Yes technically it may be able to do it but only extremely simple games and at that point why bother?

jiggles wrote:Nobody with a VR headset is going to be using it regularly this time next year, let alone in 4 years time.


Posted 16th March 2016. Let's see.
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PostRe: Denster presents: The 4K/8K HDR HDTV Thread
by Denster » Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:49 am

Get a 65inch oled. Buying 8k right now is a waste of time.

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by Peter Crisp » Sat Dec 07, 2019 2:44 pm


jiggles wrote:Nobody with a VR headset is going to be using it regularly this time next year, let alone in 4 years time.


Posted 16th March 2016. Let's see.
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PostRe: Denster presents: The 4K/8K HDR HDTV Thread
by ITSMILNER » Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:27 pm

Anyone know of a website where you can see recommend settings for HDR based on TV model?

I have my PS4 Pro connected to a LG 43uj635v and just want to see what settings I should have on/off and what levels are recommended for games in particular.

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by darksideby182 » Sun Dec 08, 2019 8:05 pm

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by BID0 » Sun Dec 08, 2019 8:43 pm

Yeh google the model number and "av forums" and you should get a youtube video walking through the setup

this is the one for my screen



av forums are great for configuring your panel

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by Oblomov Boblomov » Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:42 pm

Finally got the balls to enslave my TV onto the wall 8-) bloody marvellous it is.

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by Ironhide » Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:52 pm

I Shot A Kid wrote:Finally got the balls to enslave my TV onto the wall 8-) bloody marvellous it is.


Above the fireplace?

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by Oblomov Boblomov » Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:53 pm

Ding Dong Merrilly on Hide wrote:
I Shot A Kid wrote:Finally got the balls to enslave my TV onto the wall 8-) bloody marvellous it is.


Above the fireplace>

The fireplace built in to the corner of the room :datass:.

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by Drumstick » Tue Dec 17, 2019 9:46 am

So I've got the new TV up and running. Are there any neat tips and tricks possible for new TVs? I've been out of the loop for a few years.

For example, can you install external apps?

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PostRe: Denster presents: The 4K/8K HDR HDTV Thread
by KK » Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:43 pm

No HDR comparability for Sky Q customers any time soon...

Sky HDR Delayed For At Least A Year

British satellite broadcaster Sky announced way back in February 2018 that it was intending to bring HDR to its service some time in 2019. Since then subscribers have been waiting increasingly impatiently for the promised picture enhancement to appear.

Now, though, with just days left for Sky to make good on its promise, a spokesperson for the company has confirmed that HDR is now not going to happen until at least late 2020.

The revelation came from in a post by Sky Employee ‘Kei+M’ (one of Sky’s Community Managers) on Sky’s own forum, under a thread entitled ‘HDR Update 2019?!’.

After more than 20 pages of Sky subscribers speculating on how much longer they would have to wait for Sky’s HDR support to finally go live, Kei+M posted the following message on December 24 at 10.23am UK time: “I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it’s unlikely that the UK will be seeing HDR until late next year at the earliest. We’ve pushed it back whilst we work on other priorities.”

There has as yet been no follow up post offering a fuller explanation for the delay, and my attempts to contact Sky through its PR channels have failed so far thanks to everyone seemingly having knocked off for Christmas.

This is a shame, since while it’s good that Sky has finally come clean and decided it’s better to draw a line under the endless speculation, it would be fascinating to understand exactly what it is that’s making it so hard for Sky to live up to its HDR promises. Especially as Sky has been supporting HDR in some other European territories for months now.

I’d also personally quite like to know what the ‘other priorities’ the Sky statement refers to might be. But that’s a story for another day, I guess.

Sky still has plenty of other things going for it, of course. It still carries by far the largest amount of live sports coverage in the UK, including The Barclays Premiership football and Formula 1, and it still carries the largest stock of 4K/UHD content. It’s also still unique in the UK for being able to integrate Netflix into both its subscription model and its electronic programme guide and search engine.

Ironically, though, that Netflix support in some ways just underlines how disappointing and problematic it is for Sky to now be running so late with its HDR support. After all, pretty much every Netflix app you get on TVs, games consoles or streaming boxes now supports HDR. And given that HDR can actually have a bigger impact on picture quality than 4K resolution, it’s hard to see why anyone would want to watch Netflix via Sky when they can get a much better looking picture elsewhere.

It’s worth remembering, too, that while Sky has previously worked hard to build a reputation for leading tech innovation in the TV space, rival UK broadcast services from the BBC, BT Sport and Virgin Media already offer HDR support. And these rivals will now be able to extend their HDR lead over Sky for at least another year.

If I get any more information from Sky I’ll update this story. In the meantime, I guess all HDR-craving Sky subscribers can do is hope that the other priorities referred to in Sky’s messages turn out to be worth it.

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