The Hitman Thread- New elusive target October 27th- November 27th 2023

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PostRe: The Hitman Thread- Complete Trilogy on Gamepass!
by Frank » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:32 am

Parksey wrote:I don't think it got that big a buff in terms of an actual update, but if memory serves, it runs at 60fps on my Series S.

The main thing is the load times, which are much quicker, and quite important in a game like Hitman where you might constantly be retrying sections.


Yeah, this is my worry. There's been lots of games that have updated themselves to be "Series Optimised", but there's barely any genuine difference in how it actually plays across the two consoles (even unoptimised games will always have better load times on an SSD), but once it's got the S|X badge on the tile it *has* to be installed on the internal drive. I don't really mind the longer load times as long as I can play it off the thing :lol:

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PostRe: The Hitman Thread- Complete Trilogy on Gamepass!
by DarkRula » Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:02 am

If the Game Pass version does indeed have VR support, I might be able to give it a try.

Of course, it all depends on if that very finicky wire wants to let the thing connect.

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PostRe: The Hitman Thread- Complete Trilogy on Gamepass!
by Memento Mori » Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:34 pm

So you can't import your Hitman 3 progress on Epic into Hitman 3 on Steam but you can transfer your Hitman 2 into Hitman 3 Steam again:

The ONLY exception that allows players to perform the carryover process more than once, is for players who choose to carryover progression from HITMAN 2 (PC/Steam) → HITMAN 3 (PC/Epic), including those who have already done so. These players will be able to perform an additional carryover from HITMAN 2 (PC/Steam) → HITMAN 3 (PC/Steam). For the sake of clarity, please note that it is not possible to move progression from HITMAN 3 (PC/Epic) → HITMAN 3 (PC/Steam).

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PostRe: The Hitman Thread- Complete Trilogy on Gamepass!
by Knoyleo » Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:14 pm

Currently downloading on PC Gamepass. Not sure if it'll actually unlock yet. 57GB for the trilogy.

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PostRe: The Hitman Thread- Complete Trilogy on Gamepass!
by Photek » Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:56 pm

73gb on Series x according to Gamepass app. :dread:

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PostRe: The Hitman Thread- Complete Trilogy on Gamepass!
by Knoyleo » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:14 pm

https://ioisupport.zendesk.com/hc/en-us ... 7185915025
PC VR Minimum Specs

CPU: Intel 6-core i7-8700 / AMD Ryzen 7 2700
GPU: NVIDIA RTX 2060 Super / AMD 5700XT

When using the minimum specs for VR, we expect HITMAN 3 to run consistently at 90FPS with settings set to 'low' or 'off' on lower-end headsets.


Looking forward to my RX580 utterly shitting the bed.

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PostRe: The Hitman Thread- Complete Trilogy on Gamepass!
by Knoyleo » Thu Jan 20, 2022 7:25 pm

The state of the Steam listing

twitter.com/gamingonlinux/status/1484239055080538123



And launching at full £50, even when it's a year old and has been heavily discounted on the Epic store multiple times. Thank strawberry float for game pass, I guess.

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PostRe: The Hitman Thread- Complete Trilogy on Gamepass!
by Knoyleo » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:33 pm

Knoyleo wrote:Thank strawberry float for game pass, I guess.

I say this, but having installed the game earlier, it still won't launch. :fp:

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PostRe: The Hitman Thread- Complete Trilogy on Gamepass!
by Memento Mori » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:15 am

Knoyleo wrote:
Knoyleo wrote:Thank strawberry float for game pass, I guess.

I say this, but having installed the game earlier, it still won't launch. :fp:

PC GamePass?

Though I think Steam was having a lot of issues too so it might be the IOI servers getting hammered.

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PostRe: The Hitman Thread- Complete Trilogy on Gamepass!
by Bertie » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:21 am

Balls. I have it on Epic from Christmas (not started) but was tempted to play on gamepass but most of the bigger games are flakey day 1. Playing shadow of the tomb raider at the minute, carry on with that for now but tempted to try Hitman 3.

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PostRe: The Hitman Thread- Complete Trilogy on Gamepass!
by Knoyleo » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:24 am

Memento Mori wrote:
Knoyleo wrote:
Knoyleo wrote:Thank strawberry float for game pass, I guess.

I say this, but having installed the game earlier, it still won't launch. :fp:

PC GamePass?

Though I think Steam was having a lot of issues too so it might be the IOI servers getting hammered.

Yep. I read somewhere it's supposedly having issues with the new "use advanced installation and management features" option, where it now saves game data to accessible file locations. I could launch the .exe from the file directory, but it would crash immediately because doing that apparently bypassed the Microsoft store check to verify you own the game. No idea if this is actually the case, but I've turned that feature off and redownloaded. Will attempt again later.

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PostRe: The Hitman Thread- Complete Trilogy on Gamepass!
by Memento Mori » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:32 am

Knoyleo wrote:
Memento Mori wrote:
Knoyleo wrote:
Knoyleo wrote:Thank strawberry float for game pass, I guess.

I say this, but having installed the game earlier, it still won't launch. :fp:

PC GamePass?

Though I think Steam was having a lot of issues too so it might be the IOI servers getting hammered.

Yep. I read somewhere it's supposedly having issues with the new "use advanced installation and management features" option, where it now saves game data to accessible file locations. I could launch the .exe from the file directory, but it would crash immediately because doing that apparently bypassed the Microsoft store check to verify you own the game. No idea if this is actually the case, but I've turned that feature off and redownloaded. Will attempt again later.

Most of the issues I had with Windows games were were the Microsoft Store wanting to update something which had nothing to do with the game I wanted to play. Though to this day Flight Simulator won't run while the sound settings are set to my speakers. Every single time I want to play MFS I have to switch sound output to my monitor (which doesn't have speakers), run the game, then alt tab out and change sound to speakers.

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PostRe: The Hitman Thread- Complete Trilogy on Gamepass!
by Bertie » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:37 am

Yeah, my issue was in the Microsoft store and making sure I had the latest version of ‘Microsoft game services’.

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PostRe: The Hitman Thread- Complete Trilogy on Gamepass!
by Victor Mildew » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:39 am

Disappointed this release doesn't include all of the GOTY content for the first two games.

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PostRe: The Hitman Thread- Complete Trilogy on Gamepass!
by OrangeRKN » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:57 am

Baffling to release a complete trilogy and not include all the past trilogy content

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PostRe: The Hitman Thread- Complete Trilogy on Gamepass!
by Photek » Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:02 am

The one good thing, from what I could tell, is that it's 73gb, big yes but that's the bulk of the game, some small side stuff is included not a billion strawberry floating small pieces of dlc that Hitman 1/2 had.

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PostRe: The Hitman Thread- Complete Trilogy on Gamepass!
by kazanova_Frankenstein » Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:04 am

I dont know whether to resume my playthrough of Hitman 1 and play through the whole thing in order, risking burnout, or just start fresh on H3.

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PostRe: The Hitman Thread- Complete Trilogy on Gamepass!
by OrangeRKN » Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:11 am

All of the levels are worth playing so it doesn't matter where you start in the sense of if you burnout, that'll happen regardless and you'll have not played some content. I'd play in order only for the loose story arc connecting the levels, but it doesn't really matter. It more depends whether you like to replay a level a lot before moving on, or play through each once or twice then move on to the next and go back later for replays. If you're worried about burning out I'd maybe suggest just going through the levels once or twice each so you get to see them all, then going back to try different approaches, and leave things like escalations and all the other more side content until afterwards.

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PostRe: The Hitman Thread- Complete Trilogy on Gamepass!
by Knoyleo » Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:15 am

Memento Mori wrote:
Knoyleo wrote:
Memento Mori wrote:
Knoyleo wrote:
Knoyleo wrote:Thank strawberry float for game pass, I guess.

I say this, but having installed the game earlier, it still won't launch. :fp:

PC GamePass?

Though I think Steam was having a lot of issues too so it might be the IOI servers getting hammered.

Yep. I read somewhere it's supposedly having issues with the new "use advanced installation and management features" option, where it now saves game data to accessible file locations. I could launch the .exe from the file directory, but it would crash immediately because doing that apparently bypassed the Microsoft store check to verify you own the game. No idea if this is actually the case, but I've turned that feature off and redownloaded. Will attempt again later.

Most of the issues I had with Windows games were were the Microsoft Store wanting to update something which had nothing to do with the game I wanted to play. Though to this day Flight Simulator won't run while the sound settings are set to my speakers. Every single time I want to play MFS I have to switch sound output to my monitor (which doesn't have speakers), run the game, then alt tab out and change sound to speakers.

:lol: Ridiculous.

The reinstall with advanced installation off has worked. It was previously crashing at the point where you would get the Gamepass pop up to confirm what account you're playing on, so makes sense the issue was with Windows store in some way or another. :roll:

VR runs on my set up, and seems pretty stable, even if the resolution is noticeably a bit gooseberry fool. Will play around with it on a couple of different levels in Steam VR to see if I can get something better without ruining the performance. Really please with how the VR runs, but it feels substantially different to playing the levels in non VR third person, so I'll probably end up playing through levels in both. I'm assuming it's the Quest tracking, but your hands look really odd in this, like they jut out from the ends of your arms at funny angles. Agent 47's body is fully animated when you move him, but obviously arms and hands are tracked to your controllers, and so they don't move in line with the animation and it looks really odd if you look down. Plucking inventory items out of your chest also feels weird, but makes sense for quick inventory slots. The throwing mechanic is really well implemented, and I can see myself using that in VR quite a lot. It just feels like a really intuitive way to interact in VR, in ways I may not have thought to in 3rd person.

Looking forward to getting properly stuck into this soon.

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PostRe: The Hitman Thread- Complete Trilogy on Gamepass!
by kazanova_Frankenstein » Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:18 am

OrangeRKN wrote:All of the levels are worth playing so it doesn't matter where you start in the sense of if you burnout, that'll happen regardless and you'll have not played some content. I'd play in order only for the loose story arc connecting the levels, but it doesn't really matter. It more depends whether you like to replay a level a lot before moving on, or play through each once or twice then move on to the next and go back later for replays. If you're worried about burning out I'd maybe suggest just going through the levels once or twice each so you get to see them all, then going back to try different approaches, and leave things like escalations and all the other more side content until afterwards.


Thanks for the reply.

I suppose I should have fleshed out my reasoning a bit better - I have Hitman S1 as part of Gold, so im confident that i will always be able to play that. Obviously Hitman 3 will only be there for so long, and I would hate to not get around to playing it before it gets announced as leaving the service.

I might just do a quick play of each level from S1 and S2 before getting a bit more in depth on S3. I spent so much time in Paris and Sapienza I dont think I ever made it through Marakesh (which felt like a step down in quality).


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