Home cinema setup

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PostHome cinema setup
by Ironhide » Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:09 pm

Having the conservatory attached to my room (garage conversion/annexe) turned into a proper room which I intend using as a lounge/cinema room so have been looking at upgrading my soundbar to a proper av receiver and speakers.

This is the current frontrunner

This 5.1 package

Slightly unsure whether I have room for/need the rear speakers though.

The satellite speakers are usable as hi-fi speakers so I could just find another use for two of them and have a 3.1 setup instead.

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PostRe: Home cinema setup
by Victor Mildew » Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:31 am

Definitely get the rear speakers. There's no substitute for having the sound originating from behind you. I've got a 7.1 atmos sound bar, which was bloody expensive, and the reviews would tell you it's great at reproducing the effect of rear speakers. It isn't. It's all front loaded, very good front loaded but not once have I thought the sound was behind me. Sides yes, but not behind. My £250 All in one 5.1 system from 10 years ago with separate speakers gave a better effect.

Tldr yes buy rear speakers.

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PostRe: Home cinema setup
by Poser » Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:54 pm

+1 for 'get and use the rear speakers'.

What I would say is that package you've picked looks great, but they are standard speakers. I'd be tempted to, at the very least, get some upfiring Atmos-compatible ones. You could easily get some for the kind of money you're dropping there.

I personally would go for something like this, so at least you're not wasting that Atmos-compatible amp with regular speakers:

https://www.audioaffair.co.uk/onkyo-ht- ... er-package

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PostRe: Home cinema setup
by Ironhide » Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:22 pm

Poser wrote:+1 for 'get and use the rear speakers'.

What I would say is that package you've picked looks great, but they are standard speakers. I'd be tempted to, at the very least, get some upfiring Atmos-compatible ones. You could easily get some for the kind of money you're dropping there.

I personally would go for something like this, so at least you're not wasting that Atmos-compatible amp with regular speakers:

https://www.audioaffair.co.uk/onkyo-ht- ... er-package


Looks good.

My main issue is that the room has an unusual layout and the rear speakers would be on either side of a doorway.

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The red crosses indicate speaker placement

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PostRe: Home cinema setup
by D_C » Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:52 pm

Yeah I'm not sure if you're going to get much of the positional audio impact at all with that layout to be honest.

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PostRe: Home cinema setup
by Ironhide » Fri Sep 18, 2020 4:02 pm

D_C wrote:Yeah I'm not sure if you're going to get much of the positional audio impact at all with that layout to be honest.


Yeah, its not an ideal layout but that's what I've got to work with.

Its mainly like that to accommodate my wheelchair.

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PostRe: Home cinema setup
by Ironhide » Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:58 pm

Been looking for decent quality TV unit and can safely say I won't be getting one for Oak Furniture Land.

They all look like utter arse and take ages (15 weeks for the least gooseberry fool looking ones)to be delivered due to being "Hand crafted"

Ikea can strawberry float off too.

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PostRe: Home cinema setup
by <]:^D » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:22 am

Ironhide wrote:
Poser wrote:+1 for 'get and use the rear speakers'.

What I would say is that package you've picked looks great, but they are standard speakers. I'd be tempted to, at the very least, get some upfiring Atmos-compatible ones. You could easily get some for the kind of money you're dropping there.

I personally would go for something like this, so at least you're not wasting that Atmos-compatible amp with regular speakers:

https://www.audioaffair.co.uk/onkyo-ht- ... er-package


Looks good.

My main issue is that the room has an unusual layout and the rear speakers would be on either side of a doorway.

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The red crosses indicate speaker placement


can we get some green lines to indicate the noises please im struggling to understand the diagram

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PostRe: Home cinema setup
by Albear » Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:26 am

Will you be watching/gaming from the sofa or from your Chair? If you are in the middle of the room then you will get better seperation etc, but should still be ok from the Sofa. Most of these higher end Amps come with auto tuning mics and will help balance the sound if you are primarily listening from one area.

Why is it an issue to have speakers either side of the door way?

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PostRe: Home cinema setup
by Ironhide » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:13 pm

Albear wrote:Will you be watching/gaming from the sofa or from your Chair? If you are in the middle of the room then you will get better seperation etc, but should still be ok from the Sofa. Most of these higher end Amps come with auto tuning mics and will help balance the sound if you are primarily listening from one area.

Why is it an issue to have speakers either side of the door way?


I'll be watching from the wheelchair so I'll be in the middle of the room but anyone sitting on the sofa would obviously be outside the audio 'sweet spot'.

The rear speakers being either side of the door isn't an absolute no go but they'd be a little obtrusive when wall mounted (its an extra wide external door which would have to be fully opened to allow me to get outside so could potentially bang against one of the speakers).

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PostRe: Home cinema setup
by Albear » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:17 pm

Ah ok. I've got kef eggs mounted similiar and it doesn't cause an issue but I guess it comes down to the size of the speakers. Are you able to post photos? May help with coming up with alternatives etc

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PostRe: Home cinema setup
by <]:^D » Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:01 am

cheers Ironhide much more clear now

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PostRe: Home cinema setup
by Victor Mildew » Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:58 pm

You can always mount the rear (context) speakers up near the ceiling but pointed down in to the centre. Not ideal but better than obstructing a door

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PostRe: Home cinema setup
by Moggy » Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:59 pm

Ironhide wrote:
Albear wrote:Will you be watching/gaming from the sofa or from your Chair? If you are in the middle of the room then you will get better seperation etc, but should still be ok from the Sofa. Most of these higher end Amps come with auto tuning mics and will help balance the sound if you are primarily listening from one area.

Why is it an issue to have speakers either side of the door way?


I'll be watching from the wheelchair so I'll be in the middle of the room but anyone sitting on the sofa would obviously be outside the audio 'sweet spot'.

The rear speakers being either side of the door isn't an absolute no go but they'd be a little obtrusive when wall mounted (its an extra wide external door which would have to be fully opened to allow me to get outside so could potentially bang against one of the speakers).

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That sofa needs to be L shaped :capnscotty:

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PostRe: Home cinema setup
by Ironhide » Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:27 pm

Bought some Monitor Audio Bronze 5 floor standing Speakers and a center speaker from the same range, had my eye on them while looking at the Q Acoustics ones and they just seemed better value for an entry level setup (saw they had £250 off on hotukdeals so snapped them up).

£475 spent so far, will be paired them with a Denon AVR-X2600H and will see what they sound like before deciding whether to get a subwoofer later on.

Don't think a 5.1 setup wll be feasible sadly.

The extension isn't even finished yet :slol:

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PostRe: Home cinema setup
by Ironhide » Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:44 pm

Had an email from the place I ordered the speakers from (Exceptional AV) saying they'd sold out but would offer me the newer model (priced at £569) for £369.

I said yes.

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PostRe: Home cinema setup
by Victor Mildew » Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:45 pm

Wow! Your setup is going to be really nice

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PostRe: Home cinema setup
by Ironhide » Fri Sep 25, 2020 4:10 pm

Victor Mildew wrote:Wow! Your setup is going to be really nice

:toot:

I'm currently trying to figure out the best way to stream all the FLAC music from my PC to it, thinking something like Plex would be easiest option.

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