Re: How long have you been working for your employer?
Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:32 pm
13 years but then I can't exactly leave my employer unless I have a complete career change.
Gemini73 wrote:Now into my 5th year at the hospital.
Rex Kramer wrote:Gemini73 wrote:Now into my 5th year at the hospital.
Still on a trolley or have you finally been transferred to a ward?
Corazon de Leon wrote:Frosty the Clarkman wrote:I work as a recruiter and can advise that the average tenure for someone to spend in the UK in a business is now 3.5 years.
Obvious it depends on your goals and ambitions, but generally, it is good career practice to leave your options open and to not stay with any single business for more than 7 years - particularly if it is in the same role. There's a fine balance to be found, as no one like a jumpy CV, but you will benefit from demonstrating you can work with different people/products effectively.
The exception to this would be if your benefits/equity are unmatchable elsewhere. For example, civil servants or those who work for start ups.
In answer to the question for myself, 1.5 years, having spent 4 at the last company, which was my first job.
Fancy finding me a job?
Been working in the same role for ten years now, mostly to have an income while I studied but I’ve had my PhD in hand since the end of June and, well, the offers aren’t rolling in yet.
Oblomov Boblomov wrote:The Cuttcracker Suite wrote:I Believe In Stool Bloke wrote:If you move upwards within the same organisation then it's not a problem, but if I see someone in the same position for more than about 3-4 years I'm already angling to put their application in the bin.
No offence, but I find some of the self imposed 'rules' on recruitment utterly bizarre. Like holding steadfast to a CV being two pages long or only hiring someone who went to a top 50 university if they have a degree, even if the role doesn't require a graduate. It feels like a lot of people who are looking to fill vacancies stick to these kinds of things because they can't actually work out the suitability of candidates from a CV.
Close call, Cutty, but fortunately the hundreds of hours I've spent shortlisting CVs, interviewing and assessing job applicants and going on to personally line manage them affords me confidence in consideration of this "self-imposed rule". So no offence taken!
You are absolutely correct that no one can ever fully work out the suitability of a candidate solely from their CV. Anyone claiming this ability is a liar!
Cuttooth wrote:Oblomov Boblomov wrote:The Cuttcracker Suite wrote:I Believe In Stool Bloke wrote:If you move upwards within the same organisation then it's not a problem, but if I see someone in the same position for more than about 3-4 years I'm already angling to put their application in the bin.
No offence, but I find some of the self imposed 'rules' on recruitment utterly bizarre. Like holding steadfast to a CV being two pages long or only hiring someone who went to a top 50 university if they have a degree, even if the role doesn't require a graduate. It feels like a lot of people who are looking to fill vacancies stick to these kinds of things because they can't actually work out the suitability of candidates from a CV.
Close call, Cutty, but fortunately the hundreds of hours I've spent shortlisting CVs, interviewing and assessing job applicants and going on to personally line manage them affords me confidence in consideration of this "self-imposed rule". So no offence taken!
You are absolutely correct that no one can ever fully work out the suitability of a candidate solely from their CV. Anyone claiming this ability is a liar!
Fair enough, and I have no experience with recruiting people so I’m coming at it as a layman! Has it genuinely not worked out in the past for you with someone having previously been in one role for five years, and it’s because of that there was an issue (perceived lack of ambition, inability to adapt to a new workplace/set up etc.)?
I would find it odd if I had a vacancy to fill to not find someone who has the relevant experience doing that job for someone else for the past five years as anything but desirable or hireable, personally.
Somebody Else's Problem wrote:About 3 years and 3 months now.
Oblomov Boblomov wrote:Cuttooth wrote:Oblomov Boblomov wrote:The Cuttcracker Suite wrote:I Believe In Stool Bloke wrote:If you move upwards within the same organisation then it's not a problem, but if I see someone in the same position for more than about 3-4 years I'm already angling to put their application in the bin.
No offence, but I find some of the self imposed 'rules' on recruitment utterly bizarre. Like holding steadfast to a CV being two pages long or only hiring someone who went to a top 50 university if they have a degree, even if the role doesn't require a graduate. It feels like a lot of people who are looking to fill vacancies stick to these kinds of things because they can't actually work out the suitability of candidates from a CV.
Close call, Cutty, but fortunately the hundreds of hours I've spent shortlisting CVs, interviewing and assessing job applicants and going on to personally line manage them affords me confidence in consideration of this "self-imposed rule". So no offence taken!
You are absolutely correct that no one can ever fully work out the suitability of a candidate solely from their CV. Anyone claiming this ability is a liar!
Fair enough, and I have no experience with recruiting people so I’m coming at it as a layman! Has it genuinely not worked out in the past for you with someone having previously been in one role for five years, and it’s because of that there was an issue (perceived lack of ambition, inability to adapt to a new workplace/set up etc.)?
I would find it odd if I had a vacancy to fill to not find someone who has the relevant experience doing that job for someone else for the past five years as anything but desirable or hireable, personally.
There will always be exceptions. I don't recruit at a particularly high level, only ever up to around £30k (although I was on the panel for a negotiable £100k+ position a few months ago, which was quite an experience!) so at the beginning of any campaign unfortunately I have to play it as something of a numbers game. It's not uncommon to have to shortlist 200-300 applications for a very small handful of positions, even if the advert is only up for a couple of weeks.
I find that actually I have to use these rules (although you'll note I only said it leads me closer to rejecting the application — I wouldn't outright bin it just off that) because if I don't, I'll end up with a shortlist that is far too big!
Someone doing the same job for five years could of course be excellent. Unfortunately, it tends to be an indicator of mediocrity (again, at least at this relatively low level). There will always be diamonds to be found in any circumstances, I suppose it's a resource issue that forces us down these shortcuts.
Drumstick wrote:The problem with this viewpoint is you assume everyone wants to work there way up the corporate ladder start at a rapid pace