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Human Extinction

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:15 pm
by Moggy
Preezy wrote:I do sometimes think if all human life was extinguished in one go, it wouldn't be such a bad thing.


Do you agree with Preezy?

Re: Human Extinction

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:17 pm
by Preezy
Why I outta Image

Re: Human Extinction

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:20 pm
by Moggy
Preezy wrote:Why I outta Image


The result is currently 50% in favour of killing you.

Will of the people.....

Re: Human Extinction

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:27 pm
by Cheeky Devlin
I agree with Preezy. We're a strawberry floating cancer on the universe.

Which is hard to reconcile with my desire to see space-travel and Mars bases. :fp: :lol:

Re: Human Extinction

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:27 pm
by OrangeRKN
There is no objective morality and that's why I voted yes for sure

Re: Human Extinction

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:31 pm
by Peter Crisp
The universe can't exist anymore without knowing which console has sold the most so we have to survive as a species.

Humans also have a destiny to save the universe from The Borg, do you really want The Borg to win :x .

Re: Human Extinction

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:38 pm
by Alvin Flummux
Eat it Harvey wrote:I agree with Preezy. We're a strawberry floating cancer on the universe.

Which is hard to reconcile with my desire to see space-travel and Mars bases. :fp: :lol:


In time, assuming the preservation of our global industrial civilization (and assuming the near term move to commercial asteroid mining operations needed to sustain it), mankind will probably figure out how to make other worlds habitable, via "terraforming," artificial magnetospheres etc, gravity normalizers and so on, and the human population of Earth will in part migrate to these worlds. If humanity can break out of the solar system in a meaningful way, many more will leave, if only to maintain the generational seed ships that'll be doing the real hard work of colonization many decades, centuries or more from their time of launch (unless we develop actual stasis somehow).

Point being, the more worlds mankind can spread out to, perhaps the less people Earth will be home to. Maybe we could declare the whole thing a sanctuary wilderness world someday, where only a tiny part is inhabited as compared to today (planetary/continental capitals, sites of cultural importance), the rest being permitted to re-wild, with the aid of species re-introductions and whatnot.

Re: Human Extinction

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:57 pm
by Peter Crisp
I find this whole self loathing of the human species idea very odd.
Yes, humanity has its faults and we tend to mess the place up wherever we go but as far as we know so far we're the only intelligent life in this part of the universe (maybe the only life at all) and if we are I see nothing wrong with humanity spreading to the stars.
What exactly is the harm in colonising planets and moons that have (as far as we can tell) almost zero chance of life turning up and Humanity is unlikely to get further than this galaxy at most so it's not like we've strawberry floated the entire universe even then.

Yes, we can and should do better with the environment and I believe we will (I'm more of a Star Trek: TNG style futurist than a Mad Max style apocalypse) and I tend to think the positives of humanity like Art and Literature outweigh the negative aspects.

Re: Human Extinction

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:58 pm
by Cheeky Devlin
I misread the poll question and the OP doesn't tie up with it.

I read the OP first and thought "Yes, I agree with Preezy" but the answer to the poll should be "No".

So Yes/No are actually tied right now. :fp:

Re: Human Extinction

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:02 pm
by Preezy
strawberry floating Moggy and his gooseberry fool polls, we are forever tied to his shitness :x

Re: Human Extinction

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:06 pm
by Moggy
Preezy wrote:strawberry floating Moggy and his gooseberry fool polls, we are forever tied to his shitness :x


strawberry floating around with polls is literally the only joy I have left. Take away my shitty polls and we might as well end humanity right now. :cry:

Re: Human Extinction

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:08 pm
by Alvin Flummux
Peter Crisp wrote:I find this whole self loathing of the human species idea very odd.


Mankind is the primary driving force behind the ongoing Holocene Mass Extinction, the sixth mass extinction event since life began on Earth. We're emptying the world of vertebrate life at an alarming rate and thoroughly ruining its biodiversity, not to mention polluting it with little idea of the consequences to the food chain, and altering its climate at rates too fast for many species to survive.

We're strawberry floating everything up and it's extremely upsetting to those of us who understand that.

Re: Human Extinction

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:12 pm
by Moggy
Alvin Flummux wrote:
Peter Crisp wrote:I find this whole self loathing of the human species idea very odd.


Mankind is the primary driving force behind the ongoing Holocene Mass Extinction, the sixth mass extinction event since life began on Earth. We're emptying the world of vertebrate life at an alarming rate and thoroughly ruining its biodiversity, not to mention polluting it with little idea of the consequences to the food chain, and altering its climate at rates too fast for many species to survive.

We're strawberry floating everything up and it's extremely upsetting to those of us who understand that.


Yes but if humanity disappeared then what would be the point of all those creatures?

Re: Human Extinction

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:15 pm
by Ironhide
I don't think humans will ever actually become extinct but I suspect that there will be a major event that greatly reduces our numbers and we will return to a pre industrial state of society, whether or not we can recover from such a catastrophe is open to debate but I think our resilience and adaptability as a species will ensure our longterm survival, whatever form that may take.

Re: Human Extinction

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:20 pm
by Pedz
I guess it matters little. Life will only last a certain amount of time and then there will just be darkness and nothing else.

Re: Human Extinction

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:21 pm
by Vermilion
Yulehide wrote:I think our resilience and adaptability as a species will ensure our longterm survival, whatever form that may take.


You're wonkru, or you're an enemy of wonkru...

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Re: Human Extinction

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:36 pm
by Moggy
Yulehide wrote:I don't think humans will ever actually become extinct but I suspect that there will be a major event that greatly reduces our numbers and we will return to a pre industrial state of society, whether or not we can recover from such a catastrophe is open to debate but I think our resilience and adaptability as a species will ensure our longterm survival, whatever form that may take.


You think the universe will last forever?

Re: Human Extinction

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:43 pm
by OrangeRKN
Alvin Flummux wrote:
Peter Crisp wrote:I find this whole self loathing of the human species idea very odd.


Mankind is the primary driving force behind the ongoing Holocene Mass Extinction, the sixth mass extinction event since life began on Earth. We're emptying the world of vertebrate life at an alarming rate and thoroughly ruining its biodiversity, not to mention polluting it with little idea of the consequences to the food chain, and altering its climate at rates too fast for many species to survive.

We're strawberry floating everything up and it's extremely upsetting to those of us who understand that.


While true, that doesn't mean it'd be better if humans went extinct instead. I think that'd be even more tragic

Re: Human Extinction

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:43 pm
by Preezy
Peter Crisp wrote:I find this whole self loathing of the human species idea very odd.

This originally all came from be bemoaning the state of British politics. I think on the whole, humanity is alright. It's just the politicians that keep strawberry floating it up for the rest of us. Maybe we could just fire them all into the sun?

Re: Human Extinction

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:45 pm
by Peter Crisp
Alvin Flummux wrote:
Peter Crisp wrote:I find this whole self loathing of the human species idea very odd.


Mankind is the primary driving force behind the ongoing Holocene Mass Extinction, the sixth mass extinction event since life began on Earth. We're emptying the world of vertebrate life at an alarming rate and thoroughly ruining its biodiversity, not to mention polluting it with little idea of the consequences to the food chain, and altering its climate at rates too fast for many species to survive.

We're strawberry floating everything up and it's extremely upsetting to those of us who understand that.


Oh, I understand it just fine I just don't think wiping out all human life is a good solution.
Humanity created the problem and we can also solve it and I believe we will as it's in our own best interest to do so as most of us would rather be alive and be able to procreate than just be wiped out.
Also if life can find a way to survive the impact that wiped out the dinosaurs I'm fairly confident it can survive humanity.