speedboatchase wrote:VlaSoul wrote:Drumstick wrote:You see this sort of nonsense all the time, with people prejudiced against their own kind.
Take Priti Patel as an obvious example, the daughter of immigrants from Uganda. Of course for Patel, it's totally fine that her parents came here, but all the other immigrants can get out and stay out. Same deal with Sajid Javid.
south asian tories are like this in general init
It's kind of a cultural thing in more privileged south asians/south asians who successfully pull themselves up the social ladder; often they'll put themselves on a higher pedestal than other desis and especially immigrants from other areas for various reasons. Gujratis like her also tend to fall into this category often because they're among the most wealthly of all of us, their families having done well for themselves during like late colonialism. imo holdovers from the caste system play a part here as well
I really dislike this argument but it’s very common. It implies that POCs must think a certain way, that despite being British for multiple generations, must put ethnicity first. The same people who say "Anyone can be British" are surprisingly quick to turn to "Wait a second. Didn't your grandfather..." to win an argument.
It could be that some South Asians prefer Tory policies, in the same way that white people are free to like the Tories without their race being brought into it.
When I see this argument on the Twitter left it’s always very personalised - one of the main people from CAGE last year had a Twitter thread with right-wing POCs, mainly women, in photos next to their white partners - a not so subtle nod to them being race traitors brought into the mix.
I guess I'm speaking at least partially anecdotally, but when it comes to south asians there's often a sense of like social entitlement with the richer and older ones. A point of comparison is Sadiq Khan and Priti Patel; Khan comes from a working class background whereas Patel comes from a rich colonialist background. They're understandably on completely different sides of the political spectrum.
I don't like the "race traitor" stuff ofc, it's an example of the sort of absolute extreme idpol we see on the left these days, but when I generalise this part of the south asian british community it's a comment on the cultural influences they grew up around. We come here with somewhat different values from the pre-existing population, and these values go on to influence the thought process of the later generations. Often said values are less liberal and this is exacerbated by the fact that we often form into communities of similar groupings of immigrants. There's definitely an echo chamber effect that forms. It isn't a concious matter of "putting ethnicity first", it's a result of the cultural influences present during the formative years.
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