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Moggy wrote:I see the freedom of speech loving flag shaggers are currently furious because Huw Edwards posted a picture of himself with the Welsh flag. The BBC need to sack him for this apparently.
It's almost like they don't actually believe in freedom of speech or being proud of your country's flag....
Tomous wrote:Ralph Fiennes has outed himself as a bigot, or at least a bigot sympathiser."I can’t understand the vitriol directed at her," the actor told The Telegraph in an interview published Wednesday. "I can understand the heat of an argument, but I find this age of accusation and the need to condemn irrational. I find the level of hatred that people express about views that differ from theirs, and the violence of language towards others, disturbing."
Fiennes split with many of his fellow Harry Potter castmates — including stars Daniel Radcliffe, Emma Watson and Rupert Grint — who have reacted to the uproar by issuing statements of support for the trans community.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/theatre/wha ... emotional/
It is utterly awful how acceptable transphobia is in society.
Prototype wrote:She took exception to women being referred to as “people who menstruate” as opposed to women if I recall correctly? Followed up by tweets of how she would march for the rights of any trans person who was discriminated against.
Squinty wrote:Tomous wrote:Ralph Fiennes has outed himself as a bigot, or at least a bigot sympathiser."I can’t understand the vitriol directed at her," the actor told The Telegraph in an interview published Wednesday. "I can understand the heat of an argument, but I find this age of accusation and the need to condemn irrational. I find the level of hatred that people express about views that differ from theirs, and the violence of language towards others, disturbing."
Fiennes split with many of his fellow Harry Potter castmates — including stars Daniel Radcliffe, Emma Watson and Rupert Grint — who have reacted to the uproar by issuing statements of support for the trans community.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/theatre/wha ... emotional/
It is utterly awful how acceptable transphobia is in society.
He's likely referring to the vast amount of death threats she has got over expressing her views. Which if that's the case, is fair enough in my view.
You can decide not agree with her and still find that abhorrent.
Tomous wrote:Squinty wrote:Tomous wrote:Ralph Fiennes has outed himself as a bigot, or at least a bigot sympathiser."I can’t understand the vitriol directed at her," the actor told The Telegraph in an interview published Wednesday. "I can understand the heat of an argument, but I find this age of accusation and the need to condemn irrational. I find the level of hatred that people express about views that differ from theirs, and the violence of language towards others, disturbing."
Fiennes split with many of his fellow Harry Potter castmates — including stars Daniel Radcliffe, Emma Watson and Rupert Grint — who have reacted to the uproar by issuing statements of support for the trans community.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/theatre/wha ... emotional/
It is utterly awful how acceptable transphobia is in society.
He's likely referring to the vast amount of death threats she has got over expressing her views. Which if that's the case, is fair enough in my view.
You can decide not to agree with her and still find that abhorrent.
When someone is using their platform to spread hate the primary concern shouldn't be to protect the bigot.
The Telegraph wrote:Of course, Fiennes’s position at the front-line of the arts could be hazardous, as the culture wars with their fast judgments and attempted cancellations intensify. He offers up particular despair at the treatment meted out to JK Rowling in the wake of her engagement with trans issues. “I can’t understand the vitriol directed at her. I can understand the heat of an argument, but I find this age of accusation and the need to condemn irrational. I find the level of hatred that people express about views that differ from theirs, and the violence of language towards others, disturbing.”
He also offers me a keenly felt defence of artistic freedom, in the theatre and elsewhere. “I get worried if it’s decided that certain classical plays are irrelevant. I think often there’s a superficial reading – Restoration drama is ‘colonialist, hierarchical, quasi racist’. But they’re just plays. You can turn them on their head. The danger is of labelling stuff. These texts are there – so pull the humanity out of them, pull out the stuff that’s relevant. If you’re going ‘it doesn’t tick these boxes’, you’re lowering the portcullis of judgement before you’ve even got into the room with it. I think that’s troubling.”
He praises artistic free-spirits from other disciplines – citing Picasso and Henry Miller. “We need to have those voices that risk being offensive. How sad if we sat on any expressive voice that could shake the scenery, that could get inside us and make us angry and turn us on. I would hate a world where the freedom of that kind of voice is stifled.”
Karl_ wrote:He didn't "call it out as a secondary concern", though, did he? He did an interview with a far-right newspaper in which he defended her uncritically, talking a load of culture war shite, probably looking for easy gammon clicks while promoting a play he's in:
JK Rowling is a bigot and pretending she's somehow being bullied by those awful woke trans people isn't remotely a "fair" comment, it's a contribution to that bigotry.
Karl_ wrote:Again, it goes without saying that I don't condone death threats. But your sympathy should be for the people her bigotry is affecting - for people who have to live with their rights being challenged and eroded by the hate movement she's helped create, and who have to read vicious lies about themselves and live in an increasingly hostile society. Anyone who seeks to reframe the issue as how terrible it is that she got some nasty messages from a few unhinged people, is drawing attention away from the actual issue - that her beliefs are evil and dangerous.
Bigots deliberately try to pretend that they are the victims (of censorship), that they are scared (of nasty emails), that they are being oppressed (by wokeness), that they are the minority (willing to stand up to political correctness), and so on, in order to gain sympathy. Fiennes' interview in far-right newspaper The Telegraph contributes to that, probably on purpose.
I'm sure Enoch Powell got some nasty letters after his speeches too, but if someone's take on "rivers of blood" was to fixate on that and say something like "it's sad that we all can't have a polite conversation" then they were part of the problem.
Karl_ wrote:Yes, for the third time, I don't condone death threats.
I'm saying:
It's bad to express sympathy for bigots because it plays into their political strategy.
Karl_ wrote:It goes without saying I don't condone death threats but I also have absolutely no sympathy if someone gets vitriol for using their wealth and power to organise a hate movement of bigots against a minority group.
Prototype wrote:Karl_ wrote:It goes without saying I don't condone death threats but I also have absolutely no sympathy if someone gets vitriol for using their wealth and power to organise a hate movement of bigots against a minority group.
How does she share her opinion on something without using her wealth and power?
Prototype wrote:Karl_ wrote:It goes without saying I don't condone death threats but I also have absolutely no sympathy if someone gets vitriol for using their wealth and power to organise a hate movement of bigots against a minority group.
How does she share her opinion on something without using her wealth and power?
Prototype wrote:Karl_ wrote:It goes without saying I don't condone death threats but I also have absolutely no sympathy if someone gets vitriol for using their wealth and power to organise a hate movement of bigots against a minority group.
How does she share her opinion on something without using her wealth and power?