[Vigilantes chat] TRIBE VS TRIBE

[Rocsteady]

Cool. There are no wolves, I'm pushing hard for parksey to be up next week.

[Qikz]

Cool. There are no wolves, I'm pushing hard for parksey to be up next week.

Why Parksey? He's offering to help us save sawyer.

Surely Cora and Oblomov are the main targets. Their tribe is basically invunerable atm.

[sawyerpip]

Cool. There are no wolves, I'm pushing hard for parksey to be up next week.

Why Parksey? He's offering to help us save sawyer.

Surely Cora and Oblomov are the main targets. Their tribe is basically invunerable atm.

They aren't even in the same tribe are they? Cora is in Red Tribe and they're in a very bad position.

Parksey and Drumstick are offering to help save me because I agreed to switch votes to mic yesterday (although I had intended to switch back but missed the deadline )

I wouldn't necessarily trust what they say 100% as they're obviously manipulating things to their advantage. It probably is in their interest to keep me alive over Red Tribe as they know we have an inactive player when compared to Red Tribe, and they probably see Cora as a potential threat to them, but I wouldn't bank on it 100%.

Parksey and/or Drumstick should be the main targets for the thread next week as they're the most vocal players and are PMing all over the shop to ensure their win

[Qikz]

Cool. There are no wolves, I'm pushing hard for parksey to be up next week.

Why Parksey? He's offering to help us save sawyer.

Surely Cora and Oblomov are the main targets. Their tribe is basically invunerable atm.

They aren't even in the same tribe are they? Cora is in Red Tribe and they're in a very bad position.

Parksey and Drumstick are offering to help save me because I agreed to switch votes to mic yesterday (although I had intended to switch back but missed the deadline )

I wouldn't necessarily trust what they say 100% as they're obviously manipulating things to their advantage. It probably is in their interest to keep me alive over Red Tribe as they know we have an inactive player when compared to Red Tribe, and they probably see Cora as a potential threat to them, but I wouldn't bank on it 100%.

Parksey and/or Drumstick should be the main targets for the thread next week as they're the most vocal players and are PMing all over the shop to ensure their win

I missed that Parksey and Drumstick were on the same tribe.

[sawyerpip]

When/if I die tomorrow, you guys need to look at using the powers we have accrued so far. If you want to use saves it makes sense to use them asap, the only reason not to use them straight away would be if you were hoping to use them after a safety to bait a kill against the safety, I think that's unlikely to come into play because I feel like we're unlikely to win any contests.

[Qikz]

When/if I die tomorrow, you guys need to look at using the powers we have accrued so far. If you want to use saves it makes sense to use them asap, the only reason not to use them straight away would be if you were hoping to use them after a safety to bait a kill against the safety, I think that's unlikely to come into play because I feel like we're unlikely to win any contests.

You survived. I think we should use a save on me and one on you so we can at least whether the storm for a little bit.

[Rocsteady]

You lived, woop woop

[Qikz]

So, I believe our goal for this weekend's vote probably align and that we both want two RT members gone and Sawyer saved.

We are minded to vote Chris, so this is a heads up if you want Sawyer saved, it's probably best to vote mic. You don't need to tell me which way you will vote, if you want to keep that secret.

There's only really 2 of us active so we'll vote mic. Sawyer thinks he has 4 guaranteed votes from Red Tribe so it's possible we can't save him.

We managed to scrape Sawyer through the vote.

I'm aware I might come under a bit of focus this week, but if we ignore that and look at two options we have for working together - eradicating the remaining two members of RT (Cora is still fairly prominent) or going after TYEM (who will keep the lead as long as one of their own isn't interrogated), which would you prefer? Or would you support both?

My question is mainly what is it we get out of this? We're clearly not in a good position compared to everyone else now. Why are you helping us and not teaming up with the other tribes?

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Message from Parksey and my response.

[Herdanos]

Just to update you.

You have an unused 3-day streak from 4th-6th October available. Can be used for a Kill or Save.

You also have an unused 5-day streak from Sat 8th to Weds 12th October. Can be used for a Kill and Save. Or, two Saves.

[sawyerpip]

Do we want to consider cashing in a kill and offing DML?

He's not voting so not adding any points to our total, and we're unable to build any streaks up with him not playing.

My understanding is that players who have been successfully interrogated cannot be put up for interrogation again, and so cannot be killed in a weekend vote. That means there are players who will need to be killed with a kill ability in order to end the game, we're not going to be in a great position of using saves and kills in the endgame if we can't build any more up.

We're probably too far behind the curve on this for it to make a difference but it's worth considering, with DML still alive we'll be able to protect all three of us but will then be unlikely to build up any further saves or kills, and no other tribe is going to kill him and waste a power.

[Qikz]

Do we want to consider cashing in a kill and offing DML?

He's not voting so not adding any points to our total, and we're unable to build any streaks up with him not playing.

My understanding is that players who have been successfully interrogated cannot be put up for interrogation again, and so cannot be killed in a weekend vote. That means there are players who will need to be killed with a kill ability in order to end the game, we're not going to be in a great position of using saves and kills in the endgame if we can't build any more up.

We're probably too far behind the curve on this for it to make a difference but it's worth considering, with DML still alive we'll be able to protect all three of us but will then be unlikely to build up any further saves or kills, and no other tribe is going to kill him and waste a power.

I mean I feel kind of guilty doing it, but we're not going to get any more streaks unless he suddenly becomes active. He could be a wolf as well.

[Rocsteady]

Do we want to consider cashing in a kill and offing DML?

He's not voting so not adding any points to our total, and we're unable to build any streaks up with him not playing.

My understanding is that players who have been successfully interrogated cannot be put up for interrogation again, and so cannot be killed in a weekend vote. That means there are players who will need to be killed with a kill ability in order to end the game, we're not going to be in a great position of using saves and kills in the endgame if we can't build any more up.

We're probably too far behind the curve on this for it to make a difference but it's worth considering, with DML still alive we'll be able to protect all three of us but will then be unlikely to build up any further saves or kills, and no other tribe is going to kill him and waste a power.

I mean I feel kind of guilty doing it, but we're not going to get any more streaks unless he suddenly becomes active. He could be a wolf as well.

There are no wolves. But I'm not opposed to killing DML.

[sawyerpip]

If we're going to do it we probably want to do it tonight so that we can start a new streak tomorrow.

[Qikz]

If we're going to do it we probably want to do it tonight so that we can start a new streak tomorrow.

Let's do it.

Also this from Parksey

There are 4 players left on PV, TYEM and Vigi; 2 on Red Tribe.

The reason I went for TYEM just now is that we have un-interrogated players, whereas they have interrogated players. This means they will score more off us, than we will off them. They effectively have an 8 point lead on that (they have four members and will have two extra votes to score points off compared to us).

That's why I went for Tsunade and am asking for your support. You can also score off TYEM.

As RT only have two members, I would of course support getting them in the dock too, especially Cora, if you wanted to wipe them out first.

[sawyerpip]

If we're going to do it we probably want to do it tonight so that we can start a new streak tomorrow.

Let's do it.

Also this from Parksey

There are 4 players left on PV, TYEM and Vigi; 2 on Red Tribe.

The reason I went for TYEM just now is that we have un-interrogated players, whereas they have interrogated players. This means they will score more off us, than we will off them. They effectively have an 8 point lead on that (they have four members and will have two extra votes to score points off compared to us).

That's why I went for Tsunade and am asking for your support. You can also score off TYEM.

As RT only have two members, I would of course support getting them in the dock too, especially Cora, if you wanted to wipe them out first.

I've sent PMs to Dan to redeem our 4th-6th Oct streak for a kill, and to use kill on DML.

Sorry DML

We still have that 5-day streak to use, we may as well redeem two of the days for a save and use that asap as it's no use leaving it for later.

The remaining 3 day streak can be used for a save or a kill, up to you guys what you fancy doing with that.

[Qikz]

Who do we vote for today? Parksey could be playing us but I don't mind him helping us stay alive for now.

[sawyerpip]

Who do we vote for today? Parksey could be playing us but I don't mind him helping us stay alive for now.

They are definitely playing us It's just a case of whether it also works out to our advantage. I'm not sure if it does at this point but I haven't spent much time thinking about it.

I've sent a PM this morning to also redeem two days of the five streak we had on a save power. Who do we want to use it on first?

We also have the remaining three day streak to use for another save if we want to protect two players today. And Dan confirmed to me that if we sent the kill request before midnight DMLs death would count as yesterday, meaning we started a streak yesterday, so as long we all post today, at midnight tonight we could protect the final one of us.

[sawyerpip]

Just a thought regarding the vote today, I think I'm leaning towards putting Parksey up. However, we have Drumstick messaging me to convince me to vote TYEM and Parskey messaging Qikz to vote TYEM, Rocsteady are any of them PMing you to try and convince you to the do the same?

Even if we decide to go for Parksey it may be worth splitting our votes across Tsunade and Parksey. Assuming Cora votes with Cuttooth then I think two of us could vote Tsunade and one Parksey to still result in Parksey being put up.

The benefit of this is that it makes us look like we aren't properly coordinating and as such perhaps a lesser threat to the other tribes, so hopefully TYEM and PV would continue to view each other as their main rivals. It may not result in much but to even have a chance I think we need to coast by for a while attracting little attention so coming across as disorganised might help.

To that end when the DML kill gets announced it may be worth some of us acting like one of us made the decision independently.

[Herdanos]

Streak 4th - 6th Oct used to kill DML

A MEMBER OF YOUR TRIBE HAS BEEN ELIMINATED

DML has been eliminated from the game.
Please do not talk to DML about the game, for the remainder of the game.
This applies to any and all channels of communication (WhatsApp, Discord etc).
If they are a member of any chat groups or similar please can you now remove them.

[Rocsteady]

Just a thought regarding the vote today, I think I'm leaning towards putting Parksey up. However, we have Drumstick messaging me to convince me to vote TYEM and Parskey messaging Qikz to vote TYEM, Rocsteady are any of them PMing you to try and convince you to the do the same?

Even if we decide to go for Parksey it may be worth splitting our votes across Tsunade and Parksey. Assuming Cora votes with Cuttooth then I think two of us could vote Tsunade and one Parksey to still result in Parksey being put up.

The benefit of this is that it makes us look like we aren't properly coordinating and as such perhaps a lesser threat to the other tribes, so hopefully TYEM and PV would continue to view each other as their main rivals. It may not result in much but to even have a chance I think we need to coast by for a while attracting little attention so coming across as disorganised might help.

To that end when the DML kill gets announced it may be worth some of us acting like one of us made the decision independently.

I like this thinking.

I'm happy to blame the DML kill on one person. Or we could just pretend it wasn't us.