Something I haven't mentioned yet is that some Amico games will also have physical editions available for collectors. The exact format is TBC but apparently they will feature some sort of RFID / Amiibo-type tech which will enable you to just touch the game to the console. A few people have seen the format but they're currently subject to a non-disclosure agreement and the final format is anticipated to be revealed soon.
The standard digital versions of games will be priced from £4 to £10 whilst the physical versions will be around £20 to £25. I'm excited to see how this aspect turns out!
jawa2 wrote:Something I haven't mentioned yet is that some Amico games will also have physical editions available for collectors. The exact format is TBC but apparently they will feature some sort of RFID / Amiibo-type tech which will enable you to just touch the game to the console. A few people have seen the format but they're currently subject to a non-disclosure agreement and the final format is anticipated to be revealed soon.
The standard digital versions of games will be priced from £4 to £10 whilst the physical versions will be around £20 to £25. I'm excited to see how this aspect turns out!
Jawa - I know a Nigerian Prince who just needs a couple of grand to free up a vast fortune which he's happy to split 50:50 with you. Want me to pass on your details?
Tinzilnad wrote:Is it just me or does Tommy come across as the fakest guy ever?
I don't know much about the guy but he goes out of his way to talk with people; even very small channels on YouTube. Seems to be a decent guy who loves videogaming.
Tinzilnad wrote:Is it just me or does Tommy come across as the fakest guy ever?
Jawa's real name is Tommy?!
I feel sorry for these guys really. I know what it's like to work on something along these lines and have people gooseberry fool on it for THE LOLZ rather than actually give it a go. I hope they can at least break even with the project.
Tinzilnad wrote:Is it just me or does Tommy come across as the fakest guy ever?
Jawa's real name is Tommy?!
I feel sorry for these guys really. I know what it's like to work on something along these lines and have people gooseberry fool on it for THE LOLZ rather than actually give it a go. I hope they can at least break even with the project.
Jawa would like to keep his real identity top secret please
Honestly I think the biggest hurdle they’ll have is the initial price of the console, when you can get a standard Switch for about £30 more, or a Lite for £50 less it’s a really hard sell (or would be to me anyway) when you have the fantastic first party offerings from Nintendo, or at least know what they’re capable of producing, then there’s also the Series S also around the £250 price point if you’re not a Nintendo fan. I know they’re probably not targeting the same audience as any of the other consoles but considering this seems very much in the impulse buy for a laugh for when the family comes around (like Christmas, when you’re a few drinks down ), £250 is well away from impulse buy money though.
Rob Ho-ho 92 wrote:...Honestly I think the biggest hurdle they’ll have is the initial price of the console, when you can get a standard Switch for about £30 more, or a Lite for £50 less it’s a really hard sell (or would be to me anyway) when you have the fantastic first party offerings from Nintendo, or at least know what they’re capable of producing, then there’s also the Series S also around the £250 price point if you’re not a Nintendo fan. I know they’re probably not targeting the same audience as any of the other consoles but considering this seems very much in the impulse buy for a laugh for when the family comes around (like Christmas, when you’re a few drinks down ), £250 is well away from impulse buy money though.
It's interesting how pricing can be viewed. In your example, Robbo, a Switch is around £279 and Nintendo's first-party games are £40 to £50 each. An Xbox S is indeed good value at £250 but then you will need £45 for a second controller, maybe £40 for Live and AAA games are around £50 each. Even so, I agree with you that the Amico is targeting a different audience than perhaps those two systems are.
I would like the Amico to arrive at maybe £189 but when you consider you're getting the console, two (pretty high tech) controllers and six games for £250, it doesn't really feel to be bad value. And, after that initial outlay, games will be available in the £4 to £10 range; far more affordable than where the bigger consoles' game pricing is heading.
But then again, if we take a game I've poured over 350 hours into this year (Animal Crossing) for £45 (if you just went for the base game with none of the pre order bonus items such as bag, pins or cushion) it works out at immensely good value, even compared to the lower price point of their games. But I do agree everyone has different views on what they see as good value or not. I feel Microsoft are trying very hard with the Series S and Game Pass to make gaming much more affordable to the masses as well!
For a retro fix this looks like it could kind of scratch that itch but again, not for me. Don’t let me dampen your enthusiasm for the Amico though Jawa!
jawa2 wrote:Even so, I agree with you that the Amico is targeting a different audience than perhaps those two systems are.
They're targeting an audience that doesn't exist.
The Xbox is £250 but has Gamepass, there's just no comparison in terms of value for money. This dud has a high entry price, no brand recognition or market presence, games no-one has heard of or seen advertised that look extremely weak compared to the games you can get on a similarly-priced console from a mega corporation that has been operating in this market for decades now.
If people want to play throwaway family games they'll download something on their phone or play Among Us for free - sorry jawa, your enthusiasm is commendable but the harsh reality is that this thing is going to tank HARD.
jawa2 wrote:Even so, I agree with you that the Amico is targeting a different audience than perhaps those two systems are.
They're targeting an audience that doesn't exist.
The Xbox is £250 but has Gamepass, there's just no comparison in terms of value for money. This dud has a high entry price, no brand recognition or market presence, games no-one has heard of or seen advertised that look extremely weak compared to the games you can get on a similarly-priced console from a mega corporation that has been operating in this market for decades now.
If people want to play throwaway family games they'll download something on their phone or play Among Us for free - sorry jawa, your enthusiasm is commendable but the harsh reality is that this thing is going to tank HARD.
I kinda get your thinking, Preezy, although are there any competitors in the console marketplace who are pricing games between £3 and £10 at launch? A lot of folk are saying "but the Xbox S is £250" although that's just the entry price; add on £45 for a second controller and even then how many decent family-friendly games are available at cheap prices?
I'm not suggesting that anyone looking to buy a PS5 or an Xbox is likely to be swayed by the Amico; they're just different things for different situations. You can't really compare the games, either; price-wise they're a long way apart.
I think that's the thing - there are plenty of cheap indie games on all consoles of what looks to me to be the same or better quality. I'm going just by the videos, rather than playing them, admittedly.
So, I don't think the price of the games is much of a feature, really, especially as for less than a fiver right now in sales you can buy loads of big games that people have heard of. I nearly bought Red Dead online for £4.50, for example.
Indeed, you could play free proper games like fortnite, and just switch off the option to purchase loot or in game currency if that was your concern. You can play 2 player Switch right out of the box, so no extra controller needed there.
I will agree that I was disappointed with couch co-op / multiplayer play with the PS4 - as you say Jawa, you need to buy an extra controller, which ain't cheap. And when I did that, I hardly found any games that supported it anyway, with most multiplayer / coop stuff being online rather than in the same room. Xbox is similar. I guess they're both targeting adults and teenagers, though.
So I can see the market you think it might have - families with young children, who don't want to play online and don't fancy a Switch. But even in that case, I think that market is already taken with previous gen consoles from CEX at a fraction of the cost.
Hey, good luck to them and all of they have a vision to do something different and I don't intend to be nelly negative. I never understood the need for an ipad, as it seemed neither as good as a phone or as useful as a proper computer, till people tried it and now tablets are the dominant thing.
Abacus wrote:...I never understood the need for an ipad, as it seemed neither as good as a phone or as useful as a proper computer, till people tried it and now tablets are the dominant thing...
So... you're saying the Amico will soon be as popular as the iPad? Here we go! Yes!
Abacus wrote:...PS, I am not saying the Amico is the next ipad.
Tommy Tallarico - the CEO of Intellivision - tweeted this clip from the New York Post and it demonstrates the type of market that they're trying to tap into with the Amico; gaining attention from families (and their friends) and get them gaming together. It's a bold target!