Are Britain (and Ireland) like, totally turning into America?

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by Errkal » Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:41 am

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Nice that we've had an equal contribution to each others cultures :lol:


I don’t feel much national pride these days, but I feel my heart swell whenever I hear a yank say “banana split”. :wub:


Sorry to tell you this. But "banana split", is Australian.


It comes from cunte which is middle English. The word is older than the European discovery of Australia.


Suzy Dent has a 5 minute show on all4 that gives the origins of lots of swear words if you want to know more.

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by OrangeRKN » Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:25 am

Before tea started coming into Britain people used to drink wine at what we now call afternoon tea

I think we can all agree things have been going downhill for a long time

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by NickSCFC » Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:43 am

OrangeRakoon wrote:Before tea started coming into Britain people used to drink wine at what we now call afternoon tea

I think we can all agree things have been going downhill for a long time


Don't think if it's just a north/south thing or a generation thing, but I'm hearing more and more people using Breakfast/Lunch/Dinner instead of Breakfast/Dinner/Tea, something I only ever saw on American TV.

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by Mafro » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:03 am

I've always known it as breakfast/lunch/tea

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by KK » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:07 am

Always been referred to as lunch/dinner in my lifetime (London).

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by jawafour » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:12 am

I refer to the eating sequence as breakfast / lunch / tea. I tend to think of "dinner" as "a big lunch"... but if I am going out for tea then I call it "dinner".

I was talking to someone yesterday who referred to "supper"; this seems to be an additional part of the sequence that takes place after tea - or, if you've missed tea, as a means of having something to make up for that.

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by Benzin » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:16 am

KK wrote:Always been referred to as lunch/dinner in my lifetime (London).


+1

Why else were they called Luncheon Vouchers if not for Lunch?

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by SandyCoin » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:38 am

All my adult life it's been breakfast/lunch/dinner. I believe I used to say tea when I was much younger though. "tea time". I've never referred to lunch as dinner though.

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by Lagamorph » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:02 am

Why are people having dinner at night? Dinnertime is the middle of the day.

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by Rax » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:13 am

Lagamorph wrote:Why are people having dinner at night? Dinnertime is the middle of the day.

Then when is lunch?

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by Alvin Flummux » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:16 am

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Lagamorph wrote:Why are people having dinner at night? Dinnertime is the middle of the day.

Then when is lunch?


Between breakfast, brunch and dinner. :shifty:

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by Mafro » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:27 am

Is "dinner" at teatime another southerner thing?

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by SandyCoin » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:28 am

Clearly a southern thing then calling it dinner. I just had a little quick peak at it's origins and it looks like your usual British class split. In south of England the majority say dinner no matter the class, where as in the north it seems to suggest tea is a working class term, whilst upper class is dinner.

Doesn't appear to be because of an invasion of Americanisms.

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by Errkal » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:35 am

It's always been breakfast lunch and dinner for me.

Tea is something you have in the afternoon at say 3 ish and you have cake and a cup of tea or whatever. But if isn't you dinner.

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by Jenuall » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:35 am

Yeah it's not an Americanisation thing, weird northerners have been getting this wrong all by themselves for centuries. :P

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by Corazon de Leon » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:35 am

Mafro wrote:Is "dinner" at teatime another southerner thing?


No, it's rightly in widespread use here too. Tea is a drink, not a meal.

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by Mafro » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:36 am

SandyCoin wrote:Clearly a southern thing then calling it dinner. I just had a little quick peak at it's origins and it looks like your usual British class split. In south of England the majority say dinner no matter the class, where as in the north it seems to suggest tea is a working class term, whilst upper class is dinner.

Doesn't appear to be because of an invasion of Americanisms.

Sounds about right.

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by Corazon de Leon » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:38 am

Again, definitely not a north/south thing - it was dinner when I lived in Blackburn and it's dinner since I've been living in Glasgow. I've never heard anyone refer to tea as a meal up here. Must be those odd fellows on the east coast. :dread:

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by Alvin Flummux » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:49 am

Corazon de Leon wrote:
Mafro wrote:Is "dinner" at teatime another southerner thing?


No, it's rightly in widespread use here too. Tea is a drink, not a meal.


It has long since become the name of a meal. Deal with it.

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by jawafour » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:50 am

When I was at school (not *that* long ago!) we had "dinner ladies" to supervise the midday eating ritual. Some kids had "dinner" whilst other kids bought in their own "packed lunch".


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