Israel-Gaza Conflict

PostRe: Israel-Gaza Conflict by **RetroCora** » Mon Jun 17, 2024 10:01 am

Moggy wrote:We'd be an intellectual forum that only discussed 19th century literature if it wasn't for those damn 33 year olds dragging us down with their love of Ms Marvel

Motion to ban the under 35s after September, when I turn 35.

PostRe: Israel-Gaza Conflict by **Garth** » Wed Jul 31, 2024 4:43 am

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PostRe: Israel-Gaza Conflict by **Rocsteady** » Sat Aug 10, 2024 10:51 am

Israel's blown up another school, killing dozens. Lost for words.

PostRe: Israel-Gaza Conflict by **<]:^D** » Sat Aug 10, 2024 11:29 am

and of course Israel are reporting it was a Hamas terrorist centre:
"A statement by IDF spokesman Lt Col Nadav Shoshani said that "based on Israeli intelligence, approximately 20 Hamas and Islamic Jihad militants, including senior commanders, were operating from the compound struck at the al-Tabaeen school, using it to carry out terrorist attacks"."

"Al-Taba’een school housed more 1,000 people - having recently received dozens of displaced people from the town of Beit Hanoun, after the Israeli army ordered them to leave their homes."

BBC News

so those 980 are acceptable collateral to Israel

absolutely disgusting.

PostRe: Israel-Gaza Conflict by **Drumstick** » Sat Aug 10, 2024 4:08 pm

Last year a lot of people/outlets went out of their way to instill the narrative that this decades long situation hasn't primarily been of Israel's making. That they haven't virtually always been the antagonists, that the blame should be apportioned equally to #bothsides.

Wonder if they're prepared to walk back those comments yet?

PostRe: Israel-Gaza Conflict by **Knoyleo** » Wed Sep 18, 2024 2:55 pm

Has anyone else been following the story about these Hezbollah pagers exploding all over Lebanon? Apologies if this is the wrong thread for it, but the suspected culprit right now is either Israel or forces sympathetic to Israel.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cwyl9048gx8t

Currently 12 killed and reportedly thousands injured in a coordinated attack using thousands of pagers that were rigged to remote detonate.

Even just the logistics of it are astounding. Somehow, whoever's done this has managed to either infiltrate a manufacturing facility that's producing them and insert the explosives at point of manufacture, or intercept a shipment, and fill thousands of pagers with explosives and rig them to trigger on receipt of a signal, and then get them back on the road for delivery fast enough that nobody suspected any interference. That's an insane undertaking with many points of failure either way.

It's incredibly difficult now to not see this conflict escalating to engulf Lebanon as well.

PostRe: Israel-Gaza Conflict by **Rocsteady** » Wed Sep 18, 2024 2:57 pm

It has Mossad written all over it, doesn't it.

Absolutely insane thing to do. You must have to be a strawberry floating cold banana split to set something like that up. Stories of children with holes in their head and mangled hands and legs from the explosions.

Even if Israeli involvement is confirmed, nothing will happen.

PostRe: Israel-Gaza Conflict by **rinks** » Wed Sep 18, 2024 2:59 pm

It's wild, isn't it? I read that the Taiwanese company had licensed their brand to a European entity. I wonder if the whole production could have been set up by whoever is responsible. More complex but also more secure than infiltrating an existing supply chain.

Also, it's suspected of being just one part of a larger operation, but Hezbollah got wind of it so the attacker triggered the pagers early.

The really horrible part is that, although there was a relatively small amount of explosives in each device, the way they were triggered would have meant that many of the users would have been holding them close to their face.

Professor Elias Warrak, an ophthalmologist at Mount Lebanon University Hospital in Beirut, tells me that Tuesday afternoon was like a "nightmare".
He says he had to remove more eyes than he has in his whole 25-year career.
"It was very hard," he says. "Most of the patients were young men in their twenties and in some cases I had to remove both eyes."
Spoilered for grim detail.

PostRe: Israel-Gaza Conflict by **Knoyleo** » Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:18 pm

More explosions now being reported in Beirut.

PostRe: Israel-Gaza Conflict by **speedboatchase** » Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:30 pm

Now walkie talkies have exploded, in the last five mins or so.

PostRe: Israel-Gaza Conflict by **Johnny Ryall** » Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:30 pm

Such a bizarre and strawberry floated up thing to do that you just cannot make a good faith argument to justify when a lot of these people Hezbollah or not were around innocent citizens. I can't see how this is not some sort of war crime.

PostRe: Israel-Gaza Conflict by **Rocsteady** » Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:30 pm

Jersuslam Post editorial not got a single line about innocent victims but finds space to compare the move to snuffing out the KKK and says it was a "good job"

PostRe: Israel-Gaza Conflict by **Knoyleo** » Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:32 pm

speedboatchase wrote:Now walkie talkies have exploded, in the last five mins or so.

Timed to coincide with the start of the funeral procession for those killed in the pager explosions yesterday.

PostRe: Israel-Gaza Conflict by **Moggy** » Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:52 pm

Johnny Ryall wrote:I can't see how this is not some sort of war crime.

PostRe: Israel-Gaza Conflict by **RetroCora** » Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:53 pm

I am becoming worried that we're at the outset of World War III here, now. That's an appalling pair of crimes.

PostRe: Israel-Gaza Conflict by **Cuttooth** » Wed Sep 18, 2024 4:05 pm

RetroCora wrote:I am becoming worried that we're at the outset of World War III here, now. That's an appalling pair of crimes.

There clearly isn’t a line that the Israeli state can cross for the US government to pull their support, despite the spiralling risk of regional war.

PostRe: Israel-Gaza Conflict by **rinks** » Wed Sep 18, 2024 7:10 pm

I imagine people in Lebanon are looking warily at their fax machines right now.

PostRe: Israel-Gaza Conflict by **Knoyleo** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 9:48 am

Israel claim to have killed Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah in strikes overnight. If there was ever a time Hezbollah were going to significantly escalate in retaliation, it's probably going to be now.

PostRe: Israel-Gaza Conflict by **Grumpy David** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 10:15 am

Knoyleo wrote:Israel claim to have killed Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah in strikes overnight. If there was ever a time Hezbollah were going to significantly escalate in retaliation, it's probably going to be now.

Is that even likely? Who gives the order? The command structure has been wiped out:

PostRe: Israel-Gaza Conflict by **Moggy** » Sat Sep 28, 2024 10:17 am

Grumpy David wrote:
Knoyleo wrote:Israel claim to have killed Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah in strikes overnight. If there was ever a time Hezbollah were going to significantly escalate in retaliation, it's probably going to be now.

Is that even likely? Who gives the order? The command structure has been wiped out:

If all the Hezbollah leaders are dead and they are completely unable to escalate anymore, then there's no need for Israel to continue blowing up civilians.

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