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by Nova » Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:50 am

Dude. Your life must be so stressful.

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by Qikz » Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:54 am

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It's not a hard decision, just follow where you really want to go. There must be one you really want to go to, but don't want to forget about the others. Follow your heart.

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by Starbreaker » Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:09 am

I'm not sure why people are bashing him, I kinda see what he's getting at.

There's been a few incidences in my life where I think if I'd done that, then this would have happened, and this wouldn't be happening now. Okay, it's not to quite the same extent that Igor does it, but I get his meaning.

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by Mr Thropwimp » Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:20 am

Starbreaker wrote:I'm not sure why people are bashing him, I kinda see what he's getting at.

There's been a few incidences in my life where I think if I'd done that, then this would have happened, and this wouldn't be happening now. Okay, it's not to quite the same extent that Igor does it, but I get his meaning.


It's a certain level of introspection that probably causes more hassle than it's worth. I mean, it's something you probably consider when you have the gift of hindsight, not before. And everyone looks back on things to see how it could've gone differently. You don't really think how different things could be beforehand, as if everything's set in stone.

Can't predict the future. Go with what you feel is best. Don't try and qualify it with irrelevant reasons and pointless musings on what may or may not become an eventuality.

Also, don't let your cock choose your uni and career for you. Because according to that first post, your cock is doing all the thinking.

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PostRe: It's 2:30am, and I'm trying to make a decision that...
by Fatal Exception » Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:21 am

Karlprof wrote:
KingK wrote:
Karlprof wrote:
Fatal Exception wrote:
Karlprof wrote:
KingK wrote:
Igor wrote:..... Where I go to university could, and most probably will, effect the rest of my life.......


It's affect not effect.


v. ef·fect·ed, ef·fect·ing, ef·fects
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2. To produce as a result.


lol wut. "affect" is still the right word.


His University choice will put into action, produce as a result, bring about the rest of his life. It will effect it. It will also change, alter, influence the rest of his life, so it will also affect it. Both words are valid to use - perhaps the author will decide that he used the wrong one based on what he wanted to imply, but neither are grammatically incorrect so it's rather presumptuous for anyone to voice their opinion on his wording.



lolwut indeed. You cannot use both words. The act of choosing will affect his future.
OxfordDictionary (so are you going to argue with them?) wrote:To affect something is to change or influence it, To effect something is a rather formal way of saying `to make it happen'. Confusingly, either may produce an 'effect' or result. ('An affect' is a technical term in psychology.)

The stability of the wall was affected by passing lorries.
The demolition of the wall was effected by the detonation of a charge of dynamite.
The dynamite did not just 'affect' (influence) the demolition of the wall: it caused it.

oh and for what it's worth - I would say go to the Uni that offers you the course that you most want to do. Forget the women


Hang on, are you arguing against or with me here?

EDIT: Okay, let's put it like this. His choice of Uni will both affect and effect his future, depending on how the author views it. It will put his future into motion: it will cause it. However, he will still have a future that will be merely affected by the choice. It depends on whether we are talking about the future he wants, which would be effected by a good choice of Uni (and wouldn't be effected by a bad choice of Uni), or any future, which would be affected by his choice of Uni.

EDIT2: Upon checking, that's right. It's not grammatically incorrect at all. Which word the author wants to use is entirely based upon what he wants to imply. I can't see how you could argue against that, as it's essentially what the Oxford Dictionary quote you posted actually says. To effect is to cause, to affect is to bring about a change in. His choice of Uni will effect (cause) the life he wants, or perhaps effect (cause) a life he doesn't want [hence the dilemma], but it will affect (change) his per se 'life' as a whole.


You tried to be smart and were wrong KP; stop trying to use semantics to argue your way out of this.

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PostRe: It's 2:30am, and I'm trying to make a decision that...
by Mr Thropwimp » Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:26 am

Fatal Exception wrote:
Karlprof wrote:
KingK wrote:
Karlprof wrote:
Fatal Exception wrote:
Karlprof wrote:
KingK wrote:
Igor wrote:..... Where I go to university could, and most probably will, effect the rest of my life.......


It's affect not effect.


v. ef·fect·ed, ef·fect·ing, ef·fects
...
2. To produce as a result.


lol wut. "affect" is still the right word.


His University choice will put into action, produce as a result, bring about the rest of his life. It will effect it. It will also change, alter, influence the rest of his life, so it will also affect it. Both words are valid to use - perhaps the author will decide that he used the wrong one based on what he wanted to imply, but neither are grammatically incorrect so it's rather presumptuous for anyone to voice their opinion on his wording.



lolwut indeed. You cannot use both words. The act of choosing will affect his future.
OxfordDictionary (so are you going to argue with them?) wrote:To affect something is to change or influence it, To effect something is a rather formal way of saying `to make it happen'. Confusingly, either may produce an 'effect' or result. ('An affect' is a technical term in psychology.)

The stability of the wall was affected by passing lorries.
The demolition of the wall was effected by the detonation of a charge of dynamite.
The dynamite did not just 'affect' (influence) the demolition of the wall: it caused it.

oh and for what it's worth - I would say go to the Uni that offers you the course that you most want to do. Forget the women


Hang on, are you arguing against or with me here?

EDIT: Okay, let's put it like this. His choice of Uni will both affect and effect his future, depending on how the author views it. It will put his future into motion: it will cause it. However, he will still have a future that will be merely affected by the choice. It depends on whether we are talking about the future he wants, which would be effected by a good choice of Uni (and wouldn't be effected by a bad choice of Uni), or any future, which would be affected by his choice of Uni.

EDIT2: Upon checking, that's right. It's not grammatically incorrect at all. Which word the author wants to use is entirely based upon what he wants to imply. I can't see how you could argue against that, as it's essentially what the Oxford Dictionary quote you posted actually says. To effect is to cause, to affect is to bring about a change in. His choice of Uni will effect (cause) the life he wants, or perhaps effect (cause) a life he doesn't want [hence the dilemma], but it will affect (change) his per se 'life' as a whole.


You tried to be smart and were wrong KP; stop trying to use semantics to argue your way out of this.


The whole argument of yours is about semantics. :lol: That's the most ridiculous thing I've read this morning.

For the record, Karlprof is right, but it's a little long winded and since the particular meaning of 'effect' (to put into action) is more of an esoteric term these days, it's safe to assume that the word is a typo.

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by That » Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:29 am

Fatal Exception wrote:
Karlprof wrote:
KingK wrote:
Karlprof wrote:
Fatal Exception wrote:
Karlprof wrote:
KingK wrote:
Igor wrote:..... Where I go to university could, and most probably will, effect the rest of my life.......


It's affect not effect.


v. ef·fect·ed, ef·fect·ing, ef·fects
...
2. To produce as a result.


lol wut. "affect" is still the right word.


His University choice will put into action, produce as a result, bring about the rest of his life. It will effect it. It will also change, alter, influence the rest of his life, so it will also affect it. Both words are valid to use - perhaps the author will decide that he used the wrong one based on what he wanted to imply, but neither are grammatically incorrect so it's rather presumptuous for anyone to voice their opinion on his wording.



lolwut indeed. You cannot use both words. The act of choosing will affect his future.
OxfordDictionary (so are you going to argue with them?) wrote:To affect something is to change or influence it, To effect something is a rather formal way of saying `to make it happen'. Confusingly, either may produce an 'effect' or result. ('An affect' is a technical term in psychology.)

The stability of the wall was affected by passing lorries.
The demolition of the wall was effected by the detonation of a charge of dynamite.
The dynamite did not just 'affect' (influence) the demolition of the wall: it caused it.

oh and for what it's worth - I would say go to the Uni that offers you the course that you most want to do. Forget the women


Hang on, are you arguing against or with me here?

EDIT: Okay, let's put it like this. His choice of Uni will both affect and effect his future, depending on how the author views it. It will put his future into motion: it will cause it. However, he will still have a future that will be merely affected by the choice. It depends on whether we are talking about the future he wants, which would be effected by a good choice of Uni (and wouldn't be effected by a bad choice of Uni), or any future, which would be affected by his choice of Uni.

EDIT2: Upon checking, that's right. It's not grammatically incorrect at all. Which word the author wants to use is entirely based upon what he wants to imply. I can't see how you could argue against that, as it's essentially what the Oxford Dictionary quote you posted actually says. To effect is to cause, to affect is to bring about a change in. His choice of Uni will effect (cause) the life he wants, or perhaps effect (cause) a life he doesn't want [hence the dilemma], but it will affect (change) his per se 'life' as a whole.


You tried to be smart and were wrong KP; stop trying to use semantics to argue your way out of this.


It's not semantics, it's the English language! :lol: I hate it when people try to be grammar nazis when in all actuality they know shite, and I enjoy being pedantic over the affect/effect rule as a way of getting back at them. If you're trying to deny that I'm technically right then I suggest you re-read my posts until they sink in. With that being said, of course the OP didn't mean to use 'effect' in the manner I describe - that's not going to stop me from doing this every single time some twat like 'KingK' comes along and acts like a dick. I'm considering going through his post history and giving all of his posts a thorough spelling/grammar checking too. Maybe he'll think twice before attacking someone over the slightest of mistakes in future.

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by Abs » Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:31 am

Or maybe he won't care, or find it ammusing you're getting to worked up about it and planning to go through his entire post history to nit-pick the spelling mistakes out.

Nerds.

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by Starbreaker » Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:34 am

Abs wrote:Or maybe he won't care, or find it ammusing you're getting to worked up about it and planning to go through his entire post history to nit-pick the spelling mistakes out.

Nerds.


QFT.

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by Fatal Exception » Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:34 am

Karlprof wrote:
Fatal Exception wrote:
Karlprof wrote:
KingK wrote:
Karlprof wrote:
Fatal Exception wrote:
Karlprof wrote:
KingK wrote:
Igor wrote:..... Where I go to university could, and most probably will, effect the rest of my life.......


It's affect not effect.


v. ef·fect·ed, ef·fect·ing, ef·fects
...
2. To produce as a result.


lol wut. "affect" is still the right word.


His University choice will put into action, produce as a result, bring about the rest of his life. It will effect it. It will also change, alter, influence the rest of his life, so it will also affect it. Both words are valid to use - perhaps the author will decide that he used the wrong one based on what he wanted to imply, but neither are grammatically incorrect so it's rather presumptuous for anyone to voice their opinion on his wording.



lolwut indeed. You cannot use both words. The act of choosing will affect his future.
OxfordDictionary (so are you going to argue with them?) wrote:To affect something is to change or influence it, To effect something is a rather formal way of saying `to make it happen'. Confusingly, either may produce an 'effect' or result. ('An affect' is a technical term in psychology.)

The stability of the wall was affected by passing lorries.
The demolition of the wall was effected by the detonation of a charge of dynamite.
The dynamite did not just 'affect' (influence) the demolition of the wall: it caused it.

oh and for what it's worth - I would say go to the Uni that offers you the course that you most want to do. Forget the women


Hang on, are you arguing against or with me here?

EDIT: Okay, let's put it like this. His choice of Uni will both affect and effect his future, depending on how the author views it. It will put his future into motion: it will cause it. However, he will still have a future that will be merely affected by the choice. It depends on whether we are talking about the future he wants, which would be effected by a good choice of Uni (and wouldn't be effected by a bad choice of Uni), or any future, which would be affected by his choice of Uni.

EDIT2: Upon checking, that's right. It's not grammatically incorrect at all. Which word the author wants to use is entirely based upon what he wants to imply. I can't see how you could argue against that, as it's essentially what the Oxford Dictionary quote you posted actually says. To effect is to cause, to affect is to bring about a change in. His choice of Uni will effect (cause) the life he wants, or perhaps effect (cause) a life he doesn't want [hence the dilemma], but it will affect (change) his per se 'life' as a whole.


You tried to be smart and were wrong KP; stop trying to use semantics to argue your way out of this.


It's not semantics, it's the English language! :lol: I hate it when people try to be grammar nazis when in all actuality they know shite, and I enjoy being pedantic over the affect/effect rule as a way of getting back over them. If you're trying to deny that I'm technically right then I suggest you re-read my posts until they sink in. With that being said, of course the OP didn't mean to use 'effect' in the manner I describe - that's not going to stop me from doing this every single time some twat like 'KingK' comes along and acts like a dick. I'm considering going through his post history and giving all of his posts a thorough spelling/grammar checking too. Maybe he'll think twice before attacking someone over the slightest of mistakes in future.


:fp: He got the sentence wrong and you know it. I do know you're just being a dick because the sentence was gramatically correct, even if the meaning is not what he intended.

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by Mr Thropwimp » Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:34 am

Abs wrote:Or maybe he won't care, or find it ammusing you're getting to worked up about it and planning to go through his entire post history to nit-pick the spelling mistakes out.

Nerds.


What do you expect? This is the internet and that is Karlprof. VIGILANTE JUSTICE indeed.

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Perhaps. Still, it'll be worth it if it prevents him from acting like a dickhead again.

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by That » Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:36 am

Fatal Exception wrote:
Karlprof wrote:
Fatal Exception wrote:
Karlprof wrote:
KingK wrote:
Karlprof wrote:
Fatal Exception wrote:
Karlprof wrote:
KingK wrote:
Igor wrote:..... Where I go to university could, and most probably will, effect the rest of my life.......


It's affect not effect.


v. ef·fect·ed, ef·fect·ing, ef·fects
...
2. To produce as a result.


lol wut. "affect" is still the right word.


His University choice will put into action, produce as a result, bring about the rest of his life. It will effect it. It will also change, alter, influence the rest of his life, so it will also affect it. Both words are valid to use - perhaps the author will decide that he used the wrong one based on what he wanted to imply, but neither are grammatically incorrect so it's rather presumptuous for anyone to voice their opinion on his wording.



lolwut indeed. You cannot use both words. The act of choosing will affect his future.
OxfordDictionary (so are you going to argue with them?) wrote:To affect something is to change or influence it, To effect something is a rather formal way of saying `to make it happen'. Confusingly, either may produce an 'effect' or result. ('An affect' is a technical term in psychology.)

The stability of the wall was affected by passing lorries.
The demolition of the wall was effected by the detonation of a charge of dynamite.
The dynamite did not just 'affect' (influence) the demolition of the wall: it caused it.

oh and for what it's worth - I would say go to the Uni that offers you the course that you most want to do. Forget the women


Hang on, are you arguing against or with me here?

EDIT: Okay, let's put it like this. His choice of Uni will both affect and effect his future, depending on how the author views it. It will put his future into motion: it will cause it. However, he will still have a future that will be merely affected by the choice. It depends on whether we are talking about the future he wants, which would be effected by a good choice of Uni (and wouldn't be effected by a bad choice of Uni), or any future, which would be affected by his choice of Uni.

EDIT2: Upon checking, that's right. It's not grammatically incorrect at all. Which word the author wants to use is entirely based upon what he wants to imply. I can't see how you could argue against that, as it's essentially what the Oxford Dictionary quote you posted actually says. To effect is to cause, to affect is to bring about a change in. His choice of Uni will effect (cause) the life he wants, or perhaps effect (cause) a life he doesn't want [hence the dilemma], but it will affect (change) his per se 'life' as a whole.


You tried to be smart and were wrong KP; stop trying to use semantics to argue your way out of this.


It's not semantics, it's the English language! :lol: I hate it when people try to be grammar nazis when in all actuality they know shite, and I enjoy being pedantic over the affect/effect rule as a way of getting back over them. If you're trying to deny that I'm technically right then I suggest you re-read my posts until they sink in. With that being said, of course the OP didn't mean to use 'effect' in the manner I describe - that's not going to stop me from doing this every single time some twat like 'KingK' comes along and acts like a dick. I'm considering going through his post history and giving all of his posts a thorough spelling/grammar checking too. Maybe he'll think twice before attacking someone over the slightest of mistakes in future.


:fp: He got the sentence wrong and you know it. I do know you're just being a dick because the sentence was gramatically correct, even if the meaning is not what he intended.


Of course I know it! This is all about being a dick because it is actually grammatically correct.

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by Roonmastor » Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:02 pm

Go to Manchester. US or Japan would be great places to spend a year. Experience is helpful for jobs.

As for your musings, you haven't even gotten to the nitty-gritty of this one yet. Where and who you live with will shape your experience of university. That is all down to the accommodation placing machine and/or the timing of your accommodation application. If I had been placed differently then I wouldn't have had a different experience entirely despite being in the same uni. And this is out of your hands wherever you apply. So go Manchester, because it is easily the best place to live and be a student, as you must know from your trip the other week.

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by Alkaline » Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:06 pm

Come to Manchester. We'll go bowlng.

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by Igor » Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:14 pm

Starbreaker wrote:I'm not sure why people are bashing him, I kinda see what he's getting at.

There's been a few incidences in my life where I think if I'd done that, then this would have happened, and this wouldn't be happening now. Okay, it's not to quite the same extent that Igor does it, but I get his meaning.


Thank you.

The post wasn't really about my university choices as such, but how I tend to over think the decisions I have to make everyday, and how they'll effect/affect the rest of my life (or just the next few minutes). Sort of like the 'butterfly effect'.

I used my university choices as an example, and how this decision could effect many aspects of my life, including women, friends, career, family, death etc. Again, I just used women as a tiny example of how this might be affected.

I constantly look back on things and wonder what would have happened if they'd have been done differently, but I also think about how future decisions affect what happens, even down to which way I'll drive to work.

It also isn't another episode of 'Igor'. I wondered if anyone else had the unfortunate tendency to over think what are mostly inconsequential decisions.

EDIT: Also, a lot of love for Manchester it seems. Bowling does sound enticing.

Roon, I guess you're right. Some of it does come down to chance. But that doesn't stop me thinking that my choices here will still effect how the rest of my life potentially pans out. The placement years do help a bit though.

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by teh bork » Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:14 pm

You've been watching for to much How I Met Your Mother :D

Seriously though go to Manchester, there's some great opportunities there to do stuff that most people haven't and possibly won't have the chance to do.

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by Memento Mori » Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:15 pm

You're overthinking this entirely. I didn't think about my university choices at all, just put down the best places I could get into.

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by JiggerJay » Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:16 pm

Igor in all fairness, you should base your opinion based on which university is better, i.e acedemically, pussy is good, but pussy is at every university, even at derby university!

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by Igor » Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:21 pm

teh bork wrote:You've been watching for to much How I Met Your Mother :D

Seriously though go to Manchester, there's some great opportunities there to do stuff that most people haven't and possibly won't have the chance to do.


:lol:

Probably. It took watching someone else doing the exact same thing for me to realise that I do the exact same thing. I'm up-to-date with it now, btw.

Okay, I'll stick Manchester down as my first choice. I did like the surrounding area as well, so I might put Man Met down as a possibility. The US trip, and the placement year for Man Met seemed pretty good.

But does no one else do this?


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