Jimmy Savile Discussion: "Dr" Fox cleared of all charges

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PostRe: Jimmy Savile Discussion: "Dr" Fox cleared of all charges
by KK » Tue May 10, 2016 5:08 pm


'They were this big officers.'

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PostRe: Jimmy Savile Discussion: "Dr" Fox cleared of all charges
by Dannie Lennox_ » Thu May 12, 2016 5:12 pm

I know we live in a democratic society and everyone is innocent until proven guilty, but he is guilty.

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PostRe: Jimmy Savile Discussion: "Dr" Fox cleared of all charges
by Preezy » Thu May 12, 2016 5:13 pm

:lol: :lol:

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PostRe: Jimmy Savile Discussion: "Dr" Fox cleared of all charges
by KK » Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:29 am

I say we now dig up Sir Clement Freud and charge him instead.

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PostRe: Jimmy Savile Discussion: "Dr" Fox cleared of all charges
by bear » Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:38 am


There's a cynical part of me that says they knew from day one the charges wouldn't stick. The whole investigation has been carried out in a very public way and Richards image will be tarnished forever even though he has been cleared.
The whole thing stinks to high heaven.

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PostRe: Jimmy Savile Discussion: "Dr" Fox cleared of all charges
by Photek » Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:40 am

Richards is tarnished for being a pleb anyway, plus he's what? 98 or something? He lived a long life of pleb-dom before these allegations.

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PostRe: Jimmy Savile Discussion: "Dr" Fox cleared of all charges
by bear » Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:50 am

There's a massive difference between people thinking you're a bit of a looper and people thinking you are a rapist.

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PostRe: Jimmy Savile Discussion: "Dr" Fox cleared of all charges
by Lagamorph » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:36 am

It really reinforces my opinion that the accused should be anonymous as well until they're actually charged.

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PostRe: Jimmy Savile Discussion: "Dr" Fox cleared of all charges
by Hyperion » Thu Jun 16, 2016 12:15 pm

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PostRe: Jimmy Savile Discussion: "Dr" Fox cleared of all charges
by Zellery » Thu Jun 16, 2016 12:48 pm

Photek wrote:Richards is tarnished for being a pleb anyway, plus he's what? 98 or something? He lived a long life of pleb-dom before these allegations.

Does that make it alright then? :|

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PostRe: Jimmy Savile Discussion: "Dr" Fox cleared of all charges
by Cal » Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:16 pm

Lagamorph wrote:It really reinforces my opinion that the accused should be anonymous as well until they're actually charged.


Completely agree. Good to see Sir Cliff has at last - at last, after two years of this - seen the case against him dropped.

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PostRe: Jimmy Savile Discussion: "Dr" Fox cleared of all charges
by Moggy » Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:20 pm

Cal wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:It really reinforces my opinion that the accused should be anonymous as well until they're actually charged.


Completely agree. Good to see Sir Cliff has at last - at last, after two years of this - seen the case against him dropped.


It's hard to decide between anonymity for the accused and releasing names so that others may come forward with further evidence/information.

Waiting until somebody is formally charged seems a decent compromise between the two.

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PostRe: Jimmy Savile Discussion: "Dr" Fox cleared of all charges
by captain red dog » Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:30 pm

Moggy wrote:
Cal wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:It really reinforces my opinion that the accused should be anonymous as well until they're actually charged.


Completely agree. Good to see Sir Cliff has at last - at last, after two years of this - seen the case against him dropped.


It's hard to decide between anonymity for the accused and releasing names so that others may come forward with further evidence/information.

Waiting until somebody is formally charged seems a decent compromise between the two.

I tend to agree, but waiting until they are charged could also lead to issues whereby offenders like Stuart Hall may have gotten away with it given he was convicted mainly on the strength of so much similar evidence between multiple victims. It's possible that one victim alone may not have provided enough confidence to press charges.

Its a very tough balancing act because the damage an allegation can do is insane so I do support some anonymity for suspects, but I also don't see a workable solution at the moment.

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PostRe: Jimmy Savile Discussion: "Dr" Fox cleared of all charges
by Moggy » Tue Sep 27, 2016 8:57 pm

Louis Theroux has a Savile documentary on BBC2 at 9pm this Sunday.

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PostRe: Jimmy Savile Discussion: "Dr" Fox cleared of all charges
by Knoyleo » Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:10 pm

2nd part of National Treasure is on Channel 4 now. Clearly all heavily inspired by Savile and Yewtree, etc.

Last week's episode was very good.

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PostRe: Jimmy Savile Discussion: "Dr" Fox cleared of all charges
by floydfreak » Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:55 pm

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'They were this big officers.'


:slol: :slol: they were living dolls

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PostRe: Jimmy Savile Discussion: "Dr" Fox cleared of all charges
by Moggy » Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:53 am

Moors Murderer Ian Brady was able to mix with vulnerable borstal boys in Wormwood Scrubs prison for more than five years, newly released Home Office files reveal. Even after one young prisoner alleged that Brady had had sex with him, no action was taken for several months, the BBC's Sanchia Berg reports.

For decades he was Britain's most notorious murderer.

Ian Brady and his girlfriend Myra Hindley tortured, sexually assaulted and murdered five children in 1963 and 1964 and buried their bodies on Saddleworth Moor, near Manchester.

Following his conviction in 1966, Brady was initially held at Durham Prison. He was then sent to Parkhurst, and transferred in 1974 to Wormwood Scrubs in London.

Placed in the segregation unit, used for prisoners likely to be attacked, he began a hunger strike in the summer of 1975, demanding to be moved and allowed to associate with other prisoners.

As he lost weight, he was moved to the prison hospital. He was allowed to stay there even after he began eating again, in a room on the Mental Observation Landing, known as G2.

At this time, boys from Feltham Borstal would be sent to Wormwood Scrubs Hospital if they were suffering from mental health problems. They could be as young as 15 - a similar age to some of Brady's victims.

As early as 1976, the prison's principal medical officer had spotted the problem.

"He takes an unusual interest in any adolescent inmate who may be located on the landing and his influence in such a situation is certainly not a wholesome one," he wrote in a report dated 2 September


The staff had had to move boys off the landing to get them away from him, he added.

But despite numerous objections made by staff and others over the years, arguing that Brady should be moved, he stayed on the Mental Observation Landing, and his privileges steadily increased.

Brady was allowed to watch television with other patients and given duties that enabled him to move beyond the landing, cleaning toilets and showers.

He lost his job in Autumn 1981, after a young person reported that Brady had had sex with him, and he was moved back to Parkhurst the following year.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-48751178


What the actual strawberry float was wrong with the authorities in the 70s/80s?

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PostRe: Jimmy Savile Discussion: "Dr" Fox cleared of all charges
by Tomous » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:36 pm

Moggy wrote:But despite numerous objections made by staff and others over the years, arguing that Brady should be moved, he stayed on the Mental Observation Landing, and his privileges steadily increased.


This is just bizarre-they were reporting incidents and he got more privileges? You'd think especially given that he was a high profile inmate they'd be paying close attention to him.

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PostRe: Jimmy Savile Discussion: "Dr" Fox cleared of all charges
by KK » Wed Jun 26, 2019 2:53 pm

This thread really shouldn't be as funny as it is.

Different times 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, different times.

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