KILL IT WITH FIRE! The uncanny valley effect

My Human Gets Me Blues wrote:I actually wasn't convinced, personally. It's very close, but it still sits in Uncanny Valley. If there was a HD version, it might be easier to judge.

This. Agree. Close, but no cigar. 8-)

My Human Gets Me Blues wrote:Impressive though.

Indeed.

Wow. I would pay a full RRP of £50 to put an axe into that face!

KKLEIN wrote:
Hero of Canton wrote:I don't see why near-photorealistic graphics would make videogame developers magically better at telling stories.

Maybe not, but with those graphics you're going to be drawn into the world & get more emotionally attached than you can currently with today's technology.

Wrong, no game has ever managed to draw me in like Ocarina/Majora's Mask. Adding more freaky looking people into the mix wouldn't draw me in any more than I already have been.

KKLEIN wrote:
Hero of Canton wrote:I don't see why near-photorealistic graphics would make videogame developers magically better at telling stories.

Maybe not, but with those graphics you're going to be drawn into the world & get more emotionally attached than you can currently with today's technology.

I don't agree. I'd be slightly freaked out, to be honest.

And it's not graphics that draw me into a world so much as consistency of gameworld rules, storytelling quality and atmosphere.

KKLEIN wrote:One thing is for certain though; the money to make these games is going to be off the scale ridiculous.

Not really, if it uses face scanning of actors it shouldn't be any more expensive than mocap. As the graphics in games get better the technology to create the graphics gets better, it's massive environments that are expensive to create, making good looking environments should be easy and cheap enough for any dev.

samoza wrote:Wow. I would pay a full RRP of £50 to put an axe into that face!

O_o

Looks very like Natalie Portman.

Shadow wrote:Not really, if it uses face scanning of actors it shouldn't be any more expensive than mocap. As the graphics in games get better the technology to create the graphics gets better, it's massive environments that are expensive to create, making good looking environments should be easy and cheap enough for any dev.

Eh? The costs of game development has gone up with each passing console cycle.

Whereas the average budget for a PSone title was at anything from £75,000 to a million, a game on the PS3 or 360 is £8 million.

There's a longer and better quality video here- http://www.awntv.com/videos/image-metrics-emily-project

Seriously impressed!

god, think of the potential for that animation - you may think you are watching the news - but it may all be fake.. conspiracy type theories would occur..

But great for games, although I reckon it will be a long time yet.

I think it's real enough not to fall into the uncanny valley.

The eyes are the worst part though. They're pretty much the hardest thing to render realistically since the brain's facial recognistion homes in on them more than any other part of the face.

I wonder what people's responses would have been had they not been told it was computer generated.

Extralife wrote:I think it's real enough not to fall into the uncanny valley.

The whole point of the term 'uncanny valley' is that the closer these creations get to perfection, the more they'll be scrutinized, since Humans are a clever bunch (well, a fifth of them at least) and can detect the slightest inconsistencies. So with that in mind, this still falls quite a way short of not being labelled as such.

But yeah, it is becoming easier to be fooled by these movie effects lately. The eyes looked as though they needed a bit more specular, but overall it's hellova lot better than it was even a year ago.

Wonderful thing, this technology mallarky..

I love the uncanny valley in horror games. Doom 3 had an air of creepiness, you know genuine creepiness, not "BOO!" stuff, all due to the uncanny valley stuff.

Wow impressive. I wouldnt say no.

SWEAR TO ME!

The detailing is truely amazing but you could still tell it's computer generated. Eyelid movement seemed artificial as did the eyeball itself and the lips didn't look convincing either. Still, it's the best example I have ever seen.

Extralife wrote:I think it's real enough not to fall into the uncanny valley.

The eyes are the worst part though. They're pretty much the hardest thing to render realistically since the brain's facial recognistion homes in on them more than any other part of the face.

Really? It's the mouth that bugs me. There's something about the way it moves that just gimme the jibblies.

For a second thought this thread was going to be about Soul Calibur 4.

That looks amazing, I don't believe it!

MCN wrote:I wonder what people's responses would have been had they not been told it was computer generated.

I am reminded of The Running Man.

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