DVD Vs Blu Ray Discussion: My disc is bigger than yours

So anything worth reading over the last few pages?

Dual wrote:So anything worth reading over the last few pages?

Some prefer blu ray and some have small cocks.

This is all very exciting. I feel we are mere moments away from laughy smilie rebuttals.

Mere moments

Prototype wrote:
Dual wrote:So anything worth reading over the last few pages?

Some prefer blu ray and some have small cocks.

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cooldawn wrote:The speed of Blu-Ray is adequately fast enough. How do I know? Because there are games that do not require an install. It's really quite simple isn't it.

Obviously not fast enough for everyone or compulsory installs on even recent games simply wouldn't exist.

I haven't got a clue what you are trying to say here. Sounds like madness.

That DLC is strawberry float all to with disc limitations, which is why PS3 exclusive games still have DLC later, it's part of a business plan, simple.

So ask yourself why Lost Planet 2 in it's entirety or why Final Fantasy XIII can't fit on to a single disc. Is it because they are genuinely bigger than a DVD or the development team are gooseberry fool as coding and compressing data?

Answered your own question. FFXIII was never designed with DVD in mind and yet a 360 version sits alongside the PS3 version on shelves today, looks like the size of DVD hasn't held back anything then.

All I'm saying, which has been the basis of my posts since the start of all this, is that games will naturally grow...why the hell shouldn't devices grow with them?

Nobody has said storage shouldn't grow, the discussion has been about DVD "holding back" games, which it clearly hasn't.

Dual wrote:So anything worth reading over the last few pages?

Not really.

tl;dr is "Bawwww some PS3 games need installing" "Bawwww some 360 games come on more than one disk"

Something Fishy

Prototype wrote:
Dual wrote:So anything worth reading over the last few pages?

Some prefer blu ray and some have small cocks.

I do, i think I need to change their feed to be honest.

Something Fishy

so anyway.. consoles suck and pc's win so why argue about which console is less gooseberry fool?

you're just talking gooseberry fool when it comes down to it.

cooldawn wrote:Are you saying in PS3's lifetime we will never see an open-world game that does not require an install?

Not at all. My point is simply that, for right now, certain types of game are very difficult to pull off well on PS3 without a mandatory install, and your insistence on pointing to GOW III and Uncharted 2 as examples of how "no games need installs, devs are just lazy" is barking, because those games both funnel the player down a particular path. By their very nature, they use different programming and streaming tricks compared to how games in other genres (ie. the open world genre) need to be made to run properly.

Put crudely, Naughty Dog knows exactly what Uncharted 2 will need to load next in a level, and can therefore prepare for it. The player goes down a predetermined path, which even in the wider levels can't lead him to do much that's contrary to what the dev expects of him.

Driving round Liberty City in GTAIV, however, the number of combinations of stuff that "could" happen at any one time are much greater. Player drives down left street. Player drives down right street. Player turns around and drives back the way he came. Player nicks helicopter and flies around the city. Player leaps onto speedboat and goes down the river. Player enters nightclub and does dancing minigame.

So how is Rockstar meant to know what's going to be streamed next and so organise the content on the disc in such a way to ensure it happens as fast as possible, in the same way that Naughty Dog can "know" what the player's going to encounter next in Uncharted 2? Answer: it can't. Uncharted 2 has different streaming tech. Not necessarily better. Different.

Can't you see how a more controlled experience is easier for streaming (and "prediction") purposes than an open world environment? It's all to do with how much can be loaded into memory at any one time quickly enough, and a mandatory install helps the PS3 to overcome Blu-Ray speed problems in open world games. And, apparently, Heavy Rain.

Your one-size-fits-all theory for game development is silly.

cooldawn wrote:Don't you think all this is in opposition to a progressive industry or do you really have a closed-minded view of the development community.

Quite how you managed to draw that ridiculous conclusion from what I said is beyond me. I was replying to your original point.

cooldawn wrote:So no...my point is not 'ass' in the slightest.

I think you've actually completely forgotten your original post about this, so here's what you wrote:

Games that require an install are generally games that have been coded early in the systems life-cycle or developers that can't be bothered to put in the effort...it has absolutely nothing to do with the technology. Many games...in fact many/all (can't be arsed to check) Sony 1st party titles...you know, those ones that are actually pushing the hardware...seldom require an install.

Which is demonstrably rubbish. And ass.

ITT: spot the blatant fanboys for each console.

Mafro wrote:ITT: spot the blatant fanboys for each console.

These kind of threads are great for pointing them out, alright.

Trebell wrote:
Prototype wrote:
Dual wrote:So anything worth reading over the last few pages?

Some prefer blu ray and some have small cocks.

I do, i think I need to change their feed to be honest.

Is this the LA Noire thread?

Shadow wrote:Is this the LA Noire thread?

It was, before the usual suspects ruined it.

consolegaming wrote:The Xbox 360 is holding back the games industry and along with Nintendo is slowing it down/end

PostRe: L.A. Noire: Coming September by **Dblock** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:13 pm

Drunken_Master wrote:
cooldawn wrote:
There has been more than that. Of the games I own Forza 3 requires a HDD for disc 2 content.

You can play the game without a hard-drive though.

What about trying demos

Xbox magazines?

or using custom soundtracks or buying value added content (DLC)? HDD required, right? To get the most out of the majority of games a HDD is required.

Those gamers who want to do that, should have bought a 360 with hard-drive. However, believe it or not, there are gamers who aren't particularly bothered about custom soundtracks or extra DLC. And believe it or not, have no intention of connecting their machines to the tinternet. For those, the arcade SKU would be more than adequate. My brother for instance, has no intention of connecting his 360 to LIVE.

Not all gamers are like you.

Spot on. My brother also has xbox arcade and only plays the yearly fifa games and maybe sometimes the odd basketball game.

Alot of casual users never connected their console to xbox live.

PostRe: L.A. Noire: Coming September by **jamcc** » Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:44 pm

consolegaming wrote:
Rik wrote:How many discs was GTAIV 360 on?

MSDefenseForce is already out!

Mate, please read the thread up to this post of yours (the one I'm quoting).

Do you not see the hypocrisy at all?

No?

Shadow wrote:Is this the LA Noire thread?

It was split. You can find the LA Noire thread here:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1951&hilit=LA+Noire

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