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by Ironhide » Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:13 pm

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The Terminator - 8

The future war stuff in this is fantastic. Not sure whether I prefer it to T2 or not. The ending feels a bit hokey by today’s standards.


I don't honestly know which I prefer, they're both brilliant films.

I'm the same with Alien and Aliens.

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by Captain Kinopio » Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:44 pm

Ironhide wrote:
Captain Kinopio wrote:
The Terminator - 8

The future war stuff in this is fantastic. Not sure whether I prefer it to T2 or not. The ending feels a bit hokey by today’s standards.


I don't honestly know which I prefer, they're both brilliant films.

I'm the same with Alien and Aliens.


Easy, Alien is miles better.

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by Jenuall » Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:57 pm

Alien and Aliens are such different beasts that it's barely worth comparing them, they both do what they set out to do incredibly well.

Really looking forward to seeing Dr Sleep, unfortunate to hear that it's not doing amazing at the box office but then I guess it was never going to set the world on fire and I'm pretty sure that both commercially and critically The Shining was a bit more mixed than the universal success which it is now (rightly) recognised as.

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by Skarjo » Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:19 am

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Wank. Really boring wank.

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by Superfurryfox64 » Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:40 am

Skarjo wrote:Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Wank. Really boring wank.



I agree, glad I’m not the only one who thought so

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PostRe: Last film you watched and your rating
by Vermilion » Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:52 am

Skarjo wrote:Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Wank. Really boring wank.


Does this mean Tarantino still hasn't bothered to hire an editor?

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by Tafdolphin » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:10 am

Skarjo wrote:Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Wank. Really boring wank.


Brad Pitt Visits A Ranch

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PostRe: Last film you watched and your rating
by Skarjo » Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:39 am

Tafdolphin wrote:
Skarjo wrote:Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Wank. Really boring wank.


Brad Pitt Visits A Ranch


I’ll amend;

Wank. Really boring wank with one really good scene at nearly two hours in that made me think that holy gooseberry fool maybe it’s about to kick up a gear and all this setup will payoff into something really special before being bitterly disappointed with another 45 minutes of really boring wank with a gooseberry fool ending.

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by Skarjo » Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:41 am

Vermilion wrote:
Skarjo wrote:Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Wank. Really boring wank.


Does this mean Tarantino still hasn't bothered to hire an editor?


I think he was scared an editor might try to cut one of his shots of Margot Robbie’s feet.

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by Victor Mildew » Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:41 am

A standard Tarantino film then.

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by Tafdolphin » Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:49 am

I've watched a few Tarantino films over the past few days and, and i know this is super on point for moi, but his determination to get as much violence against women on screen as directorially possible is kind of gross. Like, Hateful 8 ends with the drawn out lynching of a woman who, throughout the film, has done little besides make snarky comments and get beaten up. The end of Once Upon a Time involves Brad Pitt repeatedly smashing a woman's head into the corner of a mantelpiece. Even Inglorious Basterds, in which there is precisely 2 female characters, involves painful death sequences for both.

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by Victor Mildew » Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:51 am

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by Moggy » Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:58 am

Tafdolphin wrote:I've watched a few Tarantino films over the past few days and, and i know this is super on point for moi, but his determination to get as much violence against women on screen as directorially possible is kind of gross. Like, Hateful 8 ends with the drawn out lynching of a woman who, throughout the film, has done little besides make snarky comments and get beaten up. The end of Once Upon a Time involves Brad Pitt repeatedly smashing a woman's head into the corner of a mantelpiece. Even Inglorious Basterds, in which there is precisely 2 female characters, involves painful death sequences for both.


I haven’t seen OUATIH, but Tarantino movies are violent. Is there really any more violence against women in them than against men?

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PostRe: Last film you watched and your rating
by Preezy » Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:00 pm

Such a nonsense argument.

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by Victor Mildew » Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:02 pm

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by Tafdolphin » Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:03 pm

Moggy wrote:
Tafdolphin wrote:I've watched a few Tarantino films over the past few days and, and i know this is super on point for moi, but his determination to get as much violence against women on screen as directorially possible is kind of gross. Like, Hateful 8 ends with the drawn out lynching of a woman who, throughout the film, has done little besides make snarky comments and get beaten up. The end of Once Upon a Time involves Brad Pitt repeatedly smashing a woman's head into the corner of a mantelpiece. Even Inglorious Basterds, in which there is precisely 2 female characters, involves painful death sequences for both.


I haven’t seen OUATIH, but Tarantino movies are violent. Is there really any more violence against women in them than against men?


I wouldn't say so but it's also a matter of context: his later films do seem to revel in those shots that involve women being beaten or abused. The camera lingers on the violence being done to them in a way it doesn't with the male characters.

EDIT: As an example, the finale of OUATIH

There are three Manson crew that go to Leo's house. This is true, in a sense, to history. But the guy gets taken out fairly quickly whereas the two women are the focus of the beating. One of them alone gets beaten, shot, stabbed and then burned alive.

and another:

Most of the men get dramatic, sensational deaths in Basterds, blown up or shot, whereas one of the two women characters is shown in close up being slowly strangled while being straddled. Interesting point here, the hands onscreen doing the strangling are Tarantino's and he was actually strangling the actress (with her permission)

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PostRe: Last film you watched and your rating
by Blue Eyes » Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:03 pm

Moggy wrote:
Tafdolphin wrote:I've watched a few Tarantino films over the past few days and, and i know this is super on point for moi, but his determination to get as much violence against women on screen as directorially possible is kind of gross. Like, Hateful 8 ends with the drawn out lynching of a woman who, throughout the film, has done little besides make snarky comments and get beaten up. The end of Once Upon a Time involves Brad Pitt repeatedly smashing a woman's head into the corner of a mantelpiece. Even Inglorious Basterds, in which there is precisely 2 female characters, involves painful death sequences for both.


I haven’t seen OUATIH, but Tarantino movies are violent. Is there really any more violence against women in them than against men?

Have you seen Death Proof? That film is basically porn for misogynists.

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by Skarjo » Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:12 pm

Yea, the majority of violence across Taratinos films is probably pretty gender neutral in terms of body count, but the women do seem to get a pretty rough deal when it comes to long drawn out scenes of violence.

The end of OUATIH was peculiar because it seemed to be almost playing the final scene for laughs. The violence was so cartoonishly looney toons (especially for the drummer from Scott Pilgrim) that I assumed it was trying to be funny, but it was far too brutal to be funny, but far too funny to be shocking.

And it was such a gooseberry fool subversion of actual history too. I mean, I get that post IB that alternate takes on historical events is a thing in QT’s films but ‘What if Hitler got cartoonishly shot up in a big dramatic action scene?’ is a fun idea. But I’m not sure what’s interesting about ‘hey you know about the brutal murder of Sharon Tate and her unborn child? Well what if that but not’.

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by Tafdolphin » Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:14 pm

He positioned both Basterds and Hollywood as his revenge against past evils, both the Nazis and the Manson crew. Whereas the former is certainly cathartic the latter is yeah, just plain weird (especially considering the film makes zero effort to condemn the (multiple if new accusations released literally yesterday are accurate) rapist Roman Polanski).

Critical success = free pass from Quentin I guess.

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PostRe: Last film you watched and your rating
by Preezy » Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:19 pm

Skarjo wrote:Yea, the majority of violence across Taratinos films is probably pretty gender neutral in terms of body count, but the women do seem to get a pretty rough deal when it comes to long drawn out scenes of violence.

Isn't there a strong argument that this is done simply because it's more shocking for the audience? The general population has been conditioned for the last 60+ years to become desensitised to violence against men in movies, so seeing a guy get tortured, shot, stabbed, burned, exploded, eaten by a bear or beaten to death is just another guy dying in a film. But if it's a women, well that's a bit more exotic and not something you see with any great regularity.

I just don't buy that it's some hexagonal conspiracy for misogynists.


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