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Victor Mildew wrote:Tenet- 9/10

Loved it.

The Audio is a bloody mess though.

Peter Crisp wrote:
Victor Mildew wrote:Tenet- 9/10

Loved it.

The Audio is a bloody mess though.

I'd heard this but had no problems bar one bit of bass heavy music near the start being really REALLY bassy (I had to roll the sub down a bit then for the neigbours benefit.) Maybe it's been mixed differently for sky.

Tenet is a terrible film with the audio mix somehow being the worst aspect.

The dialogue at the start is incomprehensible both in meaning and level.

I didn't have too much issue with the audio, it's the wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff i struggled to keep up with.

Tenet was gooseberry fool but it was at least nice to find out that big time movie director's like Nolan can be Red Dwarf fans as well.

Greenland.

Yeah it's stupid. Yeah the ending is handled really badly. But it's still really entertaining, and we haven't had a decent one of these films in yonks, so I'm fine with it.

7/10

I thought it was ridiculous that the Tenet audio hadn't been sorted in time for the cinema release, given that they unexpectedly gained several months during which to do so, but then I read somewhere that Nolan wanted it to be like that all along!

Tafdolphin wrote:Tenet is a terrible film with the audio mix somehow being the worst aspect.

The dialogue at the start is incomprehensible both in meaning and level.

It's alright or even good imo, 6.5-7/10 I'd say. Great set pieces and general action sequences as I would expect from a nolan movie, with an excellent performance from Pattinson and good to middling performances from everyone else, not helped by a script that makes me want to shoot myself in the moments when its even possible to hear it.

It's overhyped like most Nolan films are and is of course deeply masturbatory in nature. Like Interstellar it feels like Nolan jerking off his own apparent intellect and film-making pedigree in what is otherwise a decent if relatively simple sci fi film. This is most obvious in the sound mixing; either there was no one to tell Nolan it was gooseberry fool, or he ignored everyone who told him it was gooseberry fool because nothing can get in the way of his 'vision' as a kino auteur.

Complaints about an inability to follow the time-shit nature of the plot are on the level on similar complaints levelled at Inception; for what they are these concepts mostly make logical sense and follow an understandable sequence in nolan films.

I can see what's there to enjoy, but to me it was Nolan at his most insufferable. There are zero actual characters and absolutely no emotional hooks: it is spectacle unfettered by empathy or engagement. The protagonist is literally called The Protagonist for a reason: Nolan doesn't care about people he cares about systems and this is a film about systems and puzzles. The time stuff isn't incomprehensible because it's too complex, it's incomprehensible because it's meant to be, it's shot in a way that makes no sense in real time and so has to be unpacked after the fact. But why would you want to do that if you don't care, and you don't care because there are no emotions to engage with.

It's a Rubik's cube of a film and hollow as a kinderegg.

Tafdolphin wrote:I can see what's there to enjoy, but to me it was Nolan at his most insufferable. There are zero actual characters and absolutely no emotional hooks: it is spectacle unfettered by empathy or engagement. The protagonist is literally called The Protagonist for a reason: Nolan doesn't care about people he cares about systems and this is a film about systems and puzzles. The time stuff isn't incomprehensible because it's too complex, it's incomprehensible because it's meant to be, it's shot in a way that makes no sense in real time and so has to be unpacked after the fact. But why would you want to do that if you don't care, and you don't care because there are no emotions to engage with.

It's a Rubik's cube of a film and hollow as a kinderegg.

I actually agree with you mostly, but as I said I enjoy it as an action film. It's like the way I'd enjoy a Fast and Furious movie except unlike that franchise I don't give a strawberry float about the tenet characters to the point where I cannot remember the name of the only one I like. The only part where the time travel stuff falls apart imo is the ending sequence; I'll admit there it got confusing but mostly made sense in terms of what was happening. Otherwise it makes for some pretty cool action sequences. Overall the narrative is too full of timeskips which in a film about time travel end up being overly contrived.

I see what you mean about nolan caring about systems and yeah it's really to the detriment of the film, but the guy knows how to make a good action setpiece. For this reason I probably like it more than Interstellar, which was arguably more NolanWank than Tenet.

Mulholland Drive - 8/10

Iron Man 2 [7]

Watched this through with the kids on the weekend as they're keen to catch up on the MCU stuff. Whilst it is definitely in the lower ranks of MCU movies this is not actually as terrible as I remember it being. It wastes a lot of the cast and potential in the story and has a few sections which really drag which is a shame but it's still pretty watchable.

Thor 1 next. :dread:

Jason Bourne 7.5/10
Pretty enjoyable thriller with Matt Damon, though I'd probably enjoy it more if I watched the previous films.

The Phantom Menace 6.5/10
Yeah it's not a patch on the original trilogy but, it's a still en enjoyable movie with a great villian in Darth Maul and Jar Jar isn't that bad, though the script is still rather cringey at times.

Attack of the Clones 4/10
Easily the lowest point of the Lucas era of Star Wars films, with a film that's far too long and filled with terrible dialogue, though that ending battle with Yoda and Dooku is still pretty amazing.

Revenge of the Sith 8.5/10
Best of the Prequels, dark, fast paced and incredibly enjoyable. The finale battle is easily one of the most iconic in the series.

8.5/10 for Revenge of the Sith??

You're strawberry floated when you get to rating the decent Star Wars movies.

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imbusydoctorwho wrote:Jason Bourne 7.5/10Pretty enjoyable thriller with Matt Damon, though I'd probably enjoy it more if I watched the previous films.

The original trilogy is an absolute masterpiece, you definitely need to see them asap.

Avoid Bourne Legacy with Jeremy Renner though, as it's utter shite.

Captain Kinopio wrote:
- The fact NASA missed the world ending comet.

I think you'd be concerned by how within the realms of possibility this really is. The film set it up pretty well too as an interstellar comet so there isn't really any argument as to why an object of its size wasn't already spotted in a past survey. They were clearly inspired by ʻOumuamua, the first interstellar object discovered in 2017, and that wasn't spotted until it had already passed its closest approach to the sun and was heading back out of the solar system. Then of course in the film the comet had been spotted days-or-weeks before impact, with the impact kept secret to avoid panic (very similarly to Deep Impact).

Anyway it was a pretty good film, better than I was expecting for a disaster movie (not exactly a high average) but just a little predictable and with a weak, needless ending.

Moggy wrote:8.5/10 for Revenge of the Sith??

You're strawberry floated when you get to rating the decent Star Wars movies.

At least there's only a couple of them though.

Of the prequel trilogy I only watched the third - I was briefed on what happened in the first two. Didn't sound like I missed much.

Still haven't seen anything that came after VII aside from the opening of Rogue One which sent me off to sleep.

Rogue One definitely takes a while to hit its stride, I was ready to give up after about an hour but it was definitely worth seeing through to the end.

There are two genuinely great Star Wars movies IMO: Empire Strikes Back and Last Jedi, everything else is somewhere on the spectrum of quite good to awful.

Empire and Rogue one are the only two properly good ones.

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