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by Jenuall » Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:53 am

Decided to try and take more advantage of the streaming services that I pay for and actually watch more of the movies that are on there:

The Hustle (Netflix) 3/10 - Dirty Rotten Scoundrels but with female leads and gooseberry fool.

Just to be very clear - it's not gooseberry fool because of the female leads, it's gooseberry fool because it is a bad movie. Both Anne Hathaway and Rebel Wilson are let down by a bad script that gives them little to work with.

The Report (Amazon Prime) 8/10 - Drama based on the Senate investigation into CIA use of torture in the wake of 9/11. Really compelling with some excellent performances, not least from Adam Driver who continues to impress me the more I see of him. Driver was absolutely shafted by just how badly the Kylo Ren part ended up in TRoS - this guy can act!

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by Gemini73 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 1:57 pm

The Cell

Not a bad horror film and one with an interesting premise.

Ending is a bit silly, although Jennifer Lopez looks great as some kind of gothic warrior queen. :datass:

6/10

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by aayl1 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:48 pm

Jojo Rabbit - 8/10

Loved this - one of those films that really stuck with me on the walk home from the cinema.

I really can't see how anyone can walk out of that film feeling like it's insensitive. Maybe people are interpreting the uncomfortableness they felt as it being disrespectful but I think the film uses comedy to very effectively further its message. It does a great job of putting you in the shoes GET IT? of a 10 year old boy in that setting. You're laughing at the ridiculousness of Nazi ideology, not with it. I think the following joke sums it up perfectly:

"It's just the Japanese on our side now, and just between you and me, they don't look very Aryan..."


more plot spoilers:

Holy gooseberry fool the gut punch that was the reveal of the Mum. And Sam Rockwell's character is a fantastic reveal - I realised way after the fact that he ran to Jojo's house during the Gestapo scene to tell him about his mother/warn him the Gestapo were coming. He has the Mum's bike with him! And the Gestapo were there in the first place because the mum was already dead at that point.


It's also just a very well crafted film. And Stephen Merchant makes a great Nazi. Reminded me of the face-melty one from Indiana Jones.

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by Moggy » Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:51 pm

aayl1 wrote:Jojo Rabbit - 8/10

Loved this - one of those films that really stuck with me on the walk home from the cinema.

I really can't see how anyone can walk out of that film feeling like it's insensitive. Maybe people are interpreting the uncomfortableness they felt as it being disrespectful but I think the film uses comedy to very effectively further its message. It does a great job of putting you in the shoes GET IT? of a 10 year old boy in that setting. You're laughing at the ridiculousness of Nazi ideology, not with it. I think the following joke sums it up perfectly:

"It's just the Japanese on our side now, and just between you and me, they don't look very Aryan..."


more plot spoilers:

Holy gooseberry fool the gut punch that was the reveal of the Mum. And Sam Rockwell's character is a fantastic reveal - I realised way after the fact that he ran to Jojo's house during the Gestapo scene to tell him about his mother/warn him the Gestapo were coming. He has the Mum's bike with him! And the Gestapo were there in the first place because the mum was already dead at that point.


It's also just a very well crafted film. And Stephen Merchant makes a great Nazi. Reminded me of the face-melty one from Indiana Jones.


I assumed that Sam Rockwell's character was gay and having a relationship with Alfie Allen. But I like that that was never confirmed.

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PostRe: Last film you watched and your rating
by Zilnad » Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:53 pm

Going to see JoJo on Saturday and I can't wait. I'm disappointed by how much of a limited run it seems to be getting round my way though. Only one screening of it on Saturday evening.

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PostRe: Last film you watched and your rating
by aayl1 » Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:56 pm

Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:
aayl1 wrote:Jojo Rabbit - 8/10

Loved this - one of those films that really stuck with me on the walk home from the cinema.

I really can't see how anyone can walk out of that film feeling like it's insensitive. Maybe people are interpreting the uncomfortableness they felt as it being disrespectful but I think the film uses comedy to very effectively further its message. It does a great job of putting you in the shoes GET IT? of a 10 year old boy in that setting. You're laughing at the ridiculousness of Nazi ideology, not with it. I think the following joke sums it up perfectly:

"It's just the Japanese on our side now, and just between you and me, they don't look very Aryan..."


more plot spoilers:

Holy gooseberry fool the gut punch that was the reveal of the Mum. And Sam Rockwell's character is a fantastic reveal - I realised way after the fact that he ran to Jojo's house during the Gestapo scene to tell him about his mother/warn him the Gestapo were coming. He has the Mum's bike with him! And the Gestapo were there in the first place because the mum was already dead at that point.


It's also just a very well crafted film. And Stephen Merchant makes a great Nazi. Reminded me of the face-melty one from Indiana Jones.


I assumed that Sam Rockwell's character was gay and having a relationship with Alfie Allen. But I like that that was never confirmed.


Oh he totally was, aye. Alfie Allen did great with the screentime he had. It's also why Sam Rockwell was working against the Nazis from the inside, I reckon (gays being persecuted too, and all that). He lost his eye in a "totally preventable attack from the Allies" - ie he helped the Allies.


Lots of great details that one would pick up on a rewatch, I reckon.

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by Hexx » Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:59 pm

aayl1 wrote:Jojo Rabbit - 8/10

Loved this - one of those films that really stuck with me on the walk home from the cinema.

I really can't see how anyone can walk out of that film feeling like it's insensitive. Maybe people are interpreting the uncomfortableness they felt as it being disrespectful but I think the film uses comedy to very effectively further its message. It does a great job of putting you in the shoes GET IT? of a 10 year old boy in that setting. You're laughing at the ridiculousness of Nazi ideology, not with it. I think the following joke sums it up perfectly:

"It's just the Japanese on our side now, and just between you and me, they don't look very Aryan..."


more plot spoilers:

Holy gooseberry fool the gut punch that was the reveal of the Mum. And Sam Rockwell's character is a fantastic reveal - I realised way after the fact that he ran to Jojo's house during the Gestapo scene to tell him about his mother/warn him the Gestapo were coming. He has the Mum's bike with him! And the Gestapo were there in the first place because the mum was already dead at that point.


It's also just a very well crafted film. And Stephen Merchant makes a great Nazi. Reminded me of the face-melty one from Indiana Jones.


Yeah Klenzendorf was likely there as he knew the mother had already been killed.
He really pointedly tells Jo Jo at the end to stay inside (and avoid seeing his mum).
He also cleverly asks to see 'Inge's' papers before the Gestapo- meaning he can be the one to check her photo/details

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by Captain Kinopio » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:50 pm

aayl1 wrote:
Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:
aayl1 wrote:Jojo Rabbit - 8/10

Loved this - one of those films that really stuck with me on the walk home from the cinema.

I really can't see how anyone can walk out of that film feeling like it's insensitive. Maybe people are interpreting the uncomfortableness they felt as it being disrespectful but I think the film uses comedy to very effectively further its message. It does a great job of putting you in the shoes GET IT? of a 10 year old boy in that setting. You're laughing at the ridiculousness of Nazi ideology, not with it. I think the following joke sums it up perfectly:

"It's just the Japanese on our side now, and just between you and me, they don't look very Aryan..."


more plot spoilers:

Holy gooseberry fool the gut punch that was the reveal of the Mum. And Sam Rockwell's character is a fantastic reveal - I realised way after the fact that he ran to Jojo's house during the Gestapo scene to tell him about his mother/warn him the Gestapo were coming. He has the Mum's bike with him! And the Gestapo were there in the first place because the mum was already dead at that point.


It's also just a very well crafted film. And Stephen Merchant makes a great Nazi. Reminded me of the face-melty one from Indiana Jones.


I assumed that Sam Rockwell's character was gay and having a relationship with Alfie Allen. But I like that that was never confirmed.


Oh he totally was, aye. Alfie Allen did great with the screentime he had. It's also why Sam Rockwell was working against the Nazis from the inside, I reckon (gays being persecuted too, and all that). He lost his eye in a "totally preventable attack from the Allies" - ie he helped the Allies.


Lots of great details that one would pick up on a rewatch, I reckon.


That's not the way I read that. It seemed to me like he'd been let down by Nazi command and throughout the film was increasingly seeing the hypocrisy and evil of the system and how ordinary Germans were suffering. He liked Jojos mother and saw Jojo as a young version of himself.

I didn't think the homosexuality angle to it was needed at all and was the thing that came closest to undermining the message of the film, but ultimately more or less works because of the surreal twist to everything.

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by deathofcows » Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:24 pm

Your Name - 10/10.

Probably my fifth time watching, and the second time in the cinema due to a double bill yesterday joined with Shinkai's new release 'Weathering With You'.

I was worried I might have Your Named my way to indifference, or ruining the magic. But I still found it spellbinding, beautiful and moving. Easily in my Top 5 of all time and an almost universal recommendation from me.

Please everyone watch it.

Weathering With You - 3/5. Not as good as Your Name (what is?), and the second half is a little muddled in its message and plotting, and a little un-earned in its Hysterical Anime Emotional register, erring on the wrong side of sentimentality in a way that Your Name gets just right. But first half is fun and often sweet, and the whole film was still a pleasing trip through Shinkai's enchanted modern Japan.

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PostRe: Last film you watched and your rating
by Gemini73 » Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:12 pm

Rambo: First Blood

Seen it loads of times and it's always enjoyable.

9/10

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by OrangeRKN » Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:43 pm

Captain Kinopio wrote:
aayl1 wrote:
Oh he totally was, aye. Alfie Allen did great with the screentime he had. It's also why Sam Rockwell was working against the Nazis from the inside, I reckon (gays being persecuted too, and all that). He lost his eye in a "totally preventable attack from the Allies" - ie he helped the Allies.


Lots of great details that one would pick up on a rewatch, I reckon.


That's not the way I read that. It seemed to me like he'd been let down by Nazi command and throughout the film was increasingly seeing the hypocrisy and evil of the system and how ordinary Germans were suffering. He liked Jojos mother and saw Jojo as a young version of himself.

I didn't think the homosexuality angle to it was needed at all and was the thing that came closest to undermining the message of the film, but ultimately more or less works because of the surreal twist to everything.


He was a loyal German soldier increasingly disillusioned by the hypocrisy and inhumanity of the Nazi state and ideology. I think it'd be a huge and unsubstantiated stretch to suggest he was sided with the allies - especially when he's still gunning for them in the hopeless final stand. I actually think it would cheapen his character to paint him as a hero - he was more complex because he was still one of the bad guys, he was just redeemable because he was able to see past the propaganda and was capable of doing what he thought was right at the moments that mattered.

It's a film about redemption - the power of love triumphing over evil to change people for the better. I think it does so brilliantly because it never even suggests that there is anything redeemable about naziism itself (there absolutely isn't), but in portraying Hitler as a cartoonishly evil caricature he contrasts with those real people who can be redeemed.

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by aayl1 » Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:45 pm

OrangeRKN wrote:
Captain Kinopio wrote:
aayl1 wrote:
Oh he totally was, aye. Alfie Allen did great with the screentime he had. It's also why Sam Rockwell was working against the Nazis from the inside, I reckon (gays being persecuted too, and all that). He lost his eye in a "totally preventable attack from the Allies" - ie he helped the Allies.


Lots of great details that one would pick up on a rewatch, I reckon.


That's not the way I read that. It seemed to me like he'd been let down by Nazi command and throughout the film was increasingly seeing the hypocrisy and evil of the system and how ordinary Germans were suffering. He liked Jojos mother and saw Jojo as a young version of himself.

I didn't think the homosexuality angle to it was needed at all and was the thing that came closest to undermining the message of the film, but ultimately more or less works because of the surreal twist to everything.


He was a loyal German soldier increasingly disillusioned by the hypocrisy and inhumanity of the Nazi state and ideology. I think it'd be a huge and unsubstantiated stretch to suggest he was sided with the allies - especially when he's still gunning for them in the hopeless final stand. I actually think it would cheapen his character to paint him as a hero - he was more complex because he was still one of the bad guys, he was just redeemable because he was able to see past the propaganda and was capable of doing what he thought was right at the moments that mattered.

It's a film about redemption - the power of love triumphing over evil to change people for the better. I think it does so brilliantly because it never even suggests that there is anything redeemable about naziism itself (there absolutely isn't), but in portraying Hitler as a cartoonishly evil caricature he contrasts with those real people who can be redeemed.


Very well argued, you've changed my read on the character, aye.

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PostRe: Last film you watched and your rating
by Moggy » Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:18 pm

aayl1 wrote:
OrangeRKN wrote:
Captain Kinopio wrote:
aayl1 wrote:
Oh he totally was, aye. Alfie Allen did great with the screentime he had. It's also why Sam Rockwell was working against the Nazis from the inside, I reckon (gays being persecuted too, and all that). He lost his eye in a "totally preventable attack from the Allies" - ie he helped the Allies.


Lots of great details that one would pick up on a rewatch, I reckon.


That's not the way I read that. It seemed to me like he'd been let down by Nazi command and throughout the film was increasingly seeing the hypocrisy and evil of the system and how ordinary Germans were suffering. He liked Jojos mother and saw Jojo as a young version of himself.

I didn't think the homosexuality angle to it was needed at all and was the thing that came closest to undermining the message of the film, but ultimately more or less works because of the surreal twist to everything.


He was a loyal German soldier increasingly disillusioned by the hypocrisy and inhumanity of the Nazi state and ideology. I think it'd be a huge and unsubstantiated stretch to suggest he was sided with the allies - especially when he's still gunning for them in the hopeless final stand. I actually think it would cheapen his character to paint him as a hero - he was more complex because he was still one of the bad guys, he was just redeemable because he was able to see past the propaganda and was capable of doing what he thought was right at the moments that mattered.

It's a film about redemption - the power of love triumphing over evil to change people for the better. I think it does so brilliantly because it never even suggests that there is anything redeemable about naziism itself (there absolutely isn't), but in portraying Hitler as a cartoonishly evil caricature he contrasts with those real people who can be redeemed.


Very well argued, you've changed my read on the character, aye.


Yeah I agree with OR’s take.

He struck me as a loyal German who hated the Nazi regime but wouldn’t fight against his country. He’s happy to undermine the Nazi party though, especially as they’d want to kill him if his sexuality was discovered. He seemed to love war though.

He’s not a hero or a villian. He represents the majority of German soldiers in the 30s/40s, they fought for their country, but they weren’t Nazis.

With the way things are going in the world, we might all find out how that feels soon enough ;)

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by OrangeRKN » Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:22 pm

Moggy wrote:I agree with OR


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by Gemini73 » Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:53 pm

The Business

7/10

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by Moggy » Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:15 pm

Shazam - 7/10

The trailers for this movie didn’t sell it to me and so I wasn’t expecting much. It’s a decent movie though, probably the best DC movie since Nolan’s Batman trilogy.

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by Peter Crisp » Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:20 pm

1917

Marvellous film with a simple story that shows the gritty reality of WW1. If you have any interest at all in war films this is a must watch and I'd also recommend you do so in Imax if you can.

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by Vermilion » Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:50 pm

Moggy wrote:Shazam - 7/10


You like Sinbad too eh.

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by Moggy » Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:24 pm

Vermilion wrote:
Moggy wrote:Shazam - 7/10


You like Sinbad too eh.


Not really, I never watched Brookside.

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by Godzilla » Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:35 pm

League of Gentlemen Apocalypse - 7/10

Not terrible but not great. Just a TV show made into a movie that didn't work.

Alien Covenant - 5/10

Pointless nonsense. A genuinely terrible film with so many bad crew decisions. None of the characters should have got past space interview stage.

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