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Have to admit I'm not really into animated films in a big way - I do like them and can enjoy them to a degree, but I'm just more drawn towards real life acting, directing and cinematography in cinema.

I got round to watching Paprika the other day, and that was pretty good. Not quite the swansong that Satoshi Kon deserved, and I can see how Inception was probably the best live-action 'inspiration' the film would get. I don't think I'd watch it again, but it was fun enough.

And I thought Soul was pretty good. Not precisely what I was expecting and I'm glad it didn't pull the most obvious ending in favour of something a bit more romantic.

Saigon Slick wrote:Well...yeah? Knowing that you don’t like Will Smith as an actor, you’re probably going into his films expecting not to like them at this point.

I don't dislike Will Smith at all though - I never said that - I just think most of his films are crap and don't appeal to me. As an actor he is fine.

I liked Seven Pounds, MIB, I Am Legend. I liked Fresh Prince. I like some of his music. Perhaps there's a miscommunication here or I am not being clear enough. I have no issue with Will Smith, I think he's actually a pretty sound bloke.

Same with animation; I don't dislike it, I don't think that all of Disney or Pixar's output suddenly becomes better if it were remade as a live action film. I just think the films are actually not all that good.

Harry Ellis wrote:
Saigon Slick wrote:Well...yeah? Knowing that you don’t like Will Smith as an actor, you’re probably going into his films expecting not to like them at this point.

I don't dislike Will Smith at all though - I never said that - I just think most of his films are crap and don't appeal to me. As an actor he is fine.

I liked Seven Pounds, MIB, I Am Legend. I liked Fresh Prince. I like some of his music. Perhaps there's a miscommunication here or I am not being clear enough. I have no issue with Will Smith, I think he's actually a pretty sound bloke.

Same with animation; I don't dislike it, I don't think that all of Disney or Pixar's output suddenly becomes better if it were remade as a live action film. I just think the films are actually not all that good.

Harry Ellis in 2015 wrote:I think it's animation as a whole.

When I watch a film or whatever with real actors in I can care about characters and feel emotion towards them. I can't do that with animated characters. Yes I know it's bizarre and no I don't know why this is.

Drumstick has been Moggy'd :lol:

Yes, 5 or 6 years ago. People's are allowed to change their views, and I have. As stated, there are some Disney/Pixar flicks that I quite like now.

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Harry Ellis wrote:
Saigon Slick wrote:Well...yeah? Knowing that you don’t like Will Smith as an actor, you’re probably going into his films expecting not to like them at this point.

I don't dislike Will Smith at all though - I never said that - I just think most of his films are crap and don't appeal to me. As an actor he is fine.

I liked Seven Pounds, MIB, I Am Legend. I liked Fresh Prince. I like some of his music. Perhaps there's a miscommunication here or I am not being clear enough. I have no issue with Will Smith, I think he's actually a pretty sound bloke.

Same with animation; I don't dislike it, I don't think that all of Disney or Pixar's output suddenly becomes better if it were remade as a live action film. I just think the films are actually not all that good.

I never said you didn't like him as a human being, you may even like some stuff he's been in. However, you evidently don't like the majority of films he's gravitated towards in the past, so I'd argue pretty strongly that whether you know it or not there'll be an inherent bias in your interaction with future Will Smith films based on your interaction with previous ones. Same with animation - you don't typically like animated films and are therefore naturally predisposed to not caring for future efforts in the medium.

My best personal example is Christopher Nolan. I recognise the achievements of his cinematic output(and I should love TDK trilogy - I do not) but I personally have only enjoyed one or two of his films. I am never gonna see a Nolan release and think "Oh, I'd better hurry up and watch that!" because I'm biased based on my previous experiences of his product, as you are with animation and, apparently, Sir William of Smith. My wife gave the example of Tim Burton for her as well - a director who she can't shake a feeling of "meh" about despite coming from the 90s goth scene. :lol:

This is all totally natural, and I don't think anyone really has a problem with someone not liking animation as a genre or Will Smith's cinematic output. The issue is when you extrapolate that personal taste into a comment like this:

Harry Ellis wrote:Most people only jizz over Disney/Pixar because it's what society at large dictates. People are too afraid to rock the boat by having a different opinion and being seen as an outcast; they insist they like these films because they think they are supposed to.

Which is both a *massive* logic leap and impossible to demonstrate one way or the other. I'm sure some people feel like you do, but I'm also sure others feel the same way I do(to be clear - I like the majority of Disney/Pixar animated input released in my lifetime). The other problem with a sweeping statement like this is that you can compare and contrast the narrative structure, cinematography, editing etc. alongside films that are both superior and inferior to actually conclude whether they're "good," or "well made" films. And with some exceptions(Cars series, for example), they are! Everything beyond that comes down to personal taste.

Have I gone too far into this? Yes. Yes I have. And I'm not attacking you at all btw, just the idea of inherent bias, what triggers it and all that other gooseberry fool is super interesting to me so I like having the chance to talk about it. :lol:

Harry Ellis wrote:Yes, 5 or 6 years ago. People's are allowed to change their views, and I have. As stated, there are some Disney/Pixar flicks that I quite like now.

The little one has Helsinki Syndrome'd you into liking Moana I see. :lol:

As in Helsinki, Sweden

Dredd

This popped up on Netflix so gave it a go, I think it would have been better as a co-op FPS than a film.

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Jenu-All I Want For Christmas wrote:As in Helsinki, Sweden

Fair enough, I'll ruminate on the points made.

Rogue One - working through the series in a random order with my youngest. Rogue One remains pretty strawberry floating awesome, particularly the last 20 mins or so. Probably my favourite of all the films.

I think the ending of Rogue One is probably the best thing they've done with Star Wars in film since bringing it back.

Low bar I know.

Rouge Uno is the best Star Wars film, period.

Indeed Rogue One was amazing. Definitely the best of the Disney Star Wars movies, potentially my most favourite of all Star Wars films.

I’m still half divided to this day on whether killing them off at the end was a good idea. I would have loved a sequel but having them die gives the film a perfect book ending and stops you asking what happened to Jyn Erso afterwards.

I still think I would rather see a fascinating sequel with these characters set whilst eps 4, 5 and 6 were going on. Giving a different perspective to some of those events.

It would have been hard for it to make sense within the wider riginal trilogy for them not to die. I think it was the better film for it anyway.

Rogue One is a stunning final act after a really lacklustre and meandering film. Really leaves an impact but isn't a patch on The Last Jedi and maybe even The Force Awakens.

Yeah great though they are the last 30 minutes of Rouge One aren't quite enough to make up for the weakness of the earlier stages of the movie.

Vader being a badass 5 minutes before turning back into a crusty old geezer in the original trilogy is a bit hard to reconcile too.

4 more under my belt this long weekend. Spiderman Homecoming is really enjoyable, it loses a little from the character being so familiar in cinema but this younger take is refreshing and the stuff around the school is a lot of fun so is the back and further with Iron Man. Black Panther I find to be generally a bit over rated but it definitely picks up marks for it’s scale, introducing a whole weird new society and tech plus Claw is brilliant. Dr Strange I have a bit of a soft spot for because of the magic angle and him being great later on, in this though there’s something a bit off putting about Cumberbatch’s performance. Thor Ragnarok is the best ‘solo’ film in the Universe though at this stage that’s a bit of a loose definition. It also managed to turn Thor from a bit of a ill used character to my favourite one in the MCU, he has the most growth of everyone and that’s really driven home here.

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