Harry Ellis wrote:Saigon Slick wrote:Well...yeah? Knowing that you don’t like Will Smith as an actor, you’re probably going into his films expecting not to like them at this point.
I don't dislike Will Smith at all though - I never said that - I just think most of his films are crap and don't appeal to me. As an actor he is fine.
I liked Seven Pounds, MIB, I Am Legend. I liked Fresh Prince. I like some of his music. Perhaps there's a miscommunication here or I am not being clear enough. I have no issue with Will Smith, I think he's actually a pretty sound bloke.
Same with animation; I don't dislike it, I don't think that all of Disney or Pixar's output suddenly becomes better if it were remade as a live action film. I just think the films are actually not all that good.
I never said you didn't like him as a human being, you may even like some stuff he's been in. However, you evidently don't like the majority of films he's gravitated towards in the past, so I'd argue pretty strongly that whether you know it or not there'll be an inherent bias in your interaction with future Will Smith films based on your interaction with previous ones. Same with animation - you don't typically like animated films and are therefore naturally predisposed to not caring for future efforts in the medium.
My best personal example is Christopher Nolan. I recognise the achievements of his cinematic output(and I should love TDK trilogy - I do not) but I personally have only enjoyed one or two of his films. I am never gonna see a Nolan release and think "Oh, I'd better hurry up and watch that!" because I'm biased based on my previous experiences of his product, as you are with animation and, apparently, Sir William of Smith. My wife gave the example of Tim Burton for her as well - a director who she can't shake a feeling of "meh" about despite coming from the 90s goth scene.
This is all totally natural, and I don't think anyone really has a problem with someone not liking animation as a genre or Will Smith's cinematic output. The issue is when you extrapolate that personal taste into a comment like this:
Harry Ellis wrote:Most people only jizz over Disney/Pixar because it's what society at large dictates. People are too afraid to rock the boat by having a different opinion and being seen as an outcast; they insist they like these films because they think they are supposed to.
Which is both a *massive* logic leap and impossible to demonstrate one way or the other. I'm sure some people feel like you do, but I'm also sure others feel the same way I do(to be clear - I like the majority of Disney/Pixar animated input released in my lifetime). The other problem with a sweeping statement like this is that you can compare and contrast the narrative structure, cinematography, editing etc. alongside films that are both superior and inferior to actually conclude whether they're "good," or "well made" films. And with some exceptions(Cars series, for example), they are! Everything beyond that comes down to personal taste.
Have I gone too far into this? Yes. Yes I have. And I'm not attacking you at all btw, just the idea of inherent bias, what triggers it and all that other gooseberry fool is super interesting to me so I like having the chance to talk about it.
Harry Ellis wrote:Yes, 5 or 6 years ago. People's are allowed to change their views, and I have. As stated, there are some Disney/Pixar flicks that I quite like now.
The little one has Helsinki Syndrome'd you into liking Moana I see.