Last TV series you watched and your rating.

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by Pedz » Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:52 am

Tomous wrote:I was hooked on Season 1 and 2 and binged through them very quickly but dropped it during Season 3. Interesting to hear your say it picks up again Jenuall maybe I need to give it another go.


Season 4 is the final season. May as well watch it.

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by Moggy » Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:38 am

The Sopranos – 7.5/10

After Oblomov kept badgering me, I finally watched this series.

It’s a good show, but I think it is a long way from greatness. It’s certainly nowhere near shows like Breaking Bad.

I think one of the problems are the irritating dickheads that infest the show. The daughter (fit as strawberry float :datass: ) for the first few seasons is whiney. The son spends the entire show being an annoying whiney little arsehole. T’s mum is annoying. Paulie flips between funny, scary and just plain annoying. Christopher was a whiny little bitch. Etc etc. That might be a realistic portrayal of how people are, but 80 odd hours of it grinds.

Tony himself (while a total strawberry floating evil twat) was great, Junior was good until he developed dementia and Silvio was fantastic - Silv's mouth shape alone fascinated me. :lol:

The show also seemed to introduce plotlines that went nowhere. The therapist getting raped for instance, what the strawberry float was that in the show for? She later sees her attacker was “employee of the month” in a shop which was clearly leading to Tony taking care of it for her. But nope, it was never mentioned again.

Paulie and Christopher were coming to blows, that was going to lead to a major confrontation! But nope, just Paulie driving over Christopher’s lawn and then Christopher dies in a car accident/Tony murder. Huh?

The strawberry floating dream sequences also annoyed the gooseberry fool out of me. Tony gets ill and dreams of talking fish? Tony gets shot and spends 2 episodes wandering around with Buddhists.

Bobby’s death was strawberry floating ridiculous. Getting killed in a model train shop was fine, but did it really need the “comedy” screams while the camera pans to plastic figures?

I had already heard what the ending of the show was but it was far more abrupt than I was expecting! Meadow can’t park, odd assassin looking guy and CUT! I actually didn’t mind the ending though, it was better to keep people guessing than just showing Tony get shot/arrested/walk free.


All of that sounds overly harsh, I did enjoy it, but it is nowhere near the best TV I have ever seen.

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by Oblomov Boblomov » Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:51 am

:shock: how did you watch it so quickly? :lol:

Also I reject your score.

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by Moggy » Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:56 am

Oblomov Boblomov wrote::shock: how did you watch it so quickly? :lol:

Also I reject your score.


I had to watch it quickly (I started watching weeks ago though!) as NowTV was telling me that it would be removed in December and that season 4 was being removed in November. So I was watching 2 episodes a day trying to finish it before it was taken down, although last night I noticed the removal dates have been taken away. :lol:

I don’t care if you reject my score, the strawberry floating dream sequencies :dread: this isn’t the strawberry floating Bradford score you know. Whaddya gonna do?

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by Oblomov Boblomov » Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:03 am

Moggy wrote:
Oblomov Boblomov wrote::shock: how did you watch it so quickly? :lol:

Also I reject your score.


I had to watch it quickly (I started watching weeks ago though!) as NowTV was telling me that it would be removed in December and that season 4 was being removed in November. So I was watching 2 episodes a day trying to finish it before it was taken down, although last night I noticed the removal dates have been taken away. :lol:

I don’t care if you reject my score, the strawberry floating dream sequencies :dread: this isn’t the strawberry floating Bradford score you know. Whaddya gonna do?

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by Jenuall » Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:05 am

Moggy is correct, Sopranos can't hold a candle to true top tier television like Breaking Bad or Danny Dyer's The Wall.

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by Moggy » Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:09 am

Oblomov Boblomov wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Oblomov Boblomov wrote::shock: how did you watch it so quickly? :lol:

Also I reject your score.


I had to watch it quickly (I started watching weeks ago though!) as NowTV was telling me that it would be removed in December and that season 4 was being removed in November. So I was watching 2 episodes a day trying to finish it before it was taken down, although last night I noticed the removal dates have been taken away. :lol:

I don’t care if you reject my score, the strawberry floating dream sequencies :dread: this isn’t the strawberry floating Bradford score you know. Whaddya gonna do?

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Fake edit: gooseberry fool, Jenuall is on my side. :fp: I take it all back, it is 10/10 top tier TV!!

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by Jenuall » Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:17 am

:lol:

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by Oblomov Boblomov » Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:28 am

Everyone knows Jenuall is straight out of the loony bin.

However, you can't run through a list of annoying characters and not even mention the name Janice.

Moggy is fake news!

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by Oblomov Boblomov » Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:29 am

Moggy wrote:The daughter (fit as strawberry float :datass: )

By which series? :shifty:

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by Jenuall » Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:32 am

Oi! I am not out of the loony bin. :capnscotty:

If there is one thing I can't stand it's crazy people. You'll be heading for two hours of WOO if you carry on like that Oblo. ;)

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by Moggy » Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:56 am

Oblomov Boblomov wrote:
However, you can't run through a list of annoying characters and not even mention the name Janice.


I think I had wiped her from my mind. Yeah she was massively annoying.

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Moggy wrote:The daughter (fit as strawberry float :datass: )

By which series? :shifty:


Hmm, Sopranos started in early 1999, so was filmed in 1998. The actress was born in 1981, so would have been 17 when filming the first season.

So she was hot as strawberry float from the opening episode.

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by Oblomov Boblomov » Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:52 am

I had no idea :shock: always assumed she was much younger than that.

Jenuall wrote:Oi! I am not out of the loony bin. :capnscotty:

If there is one thing I can't stand it's crazy people. You'll be heading for two hours of WOO if you carry on like that Oblo. ;)


Unfortunately for you, Mr Flibble and I go way back. What shall we do with Jenuall, Mr Flibble?

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by Moggy » Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:56 am

Oblomov Boblomov wrote:
Moggy wrote:The daughter (fit as strawberry float :datass: )

By which series? :shifty:


Oblomov Boblomov wrote:I had no idea :shock: always assumed she was much younger than that.


You thought she was much younger than 17, but had to put a shifty eye in when asking what season she became hot in?

Oh dear Oblomov, you are Gary Glitter.

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by Oblomov Boblomov » Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:00 am

Moggy wrote:
Oblomov Boblomov wrote:
Moggy wrote:The daughter (fit as strawberry float :datass: )

By which series? :shifty:


Oblomov Boblomov wrote:I had no idea :shock: always assumed she was much younger than that.


You thought she was much younger than 17, but had to put a shifty eye in when asking what season she became hot in?

Oh dear Oblomov, you are Gary Glitter.

You got me :o

Personally I am a series 4 onwards kinda guy :datass: it's all about Adriana until then :datass:.

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by Moggy » Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:12 am

Oblomov Boblomov wrote:
Personally I am a series 4 onwards kinda guy :datass: it's all about Adriana until then :datass:.


I wasn’t feeling Adriana so much. Smoking hot body but a face that looked like it had been on the streets for a few years. ;)

T’s Russian girlfriend though. :datass: And the one legged Russian as well. :datass:

Which reminds me:

When Phil was feeling unwell and had a heart attack, the camera lingered on his cleaner/nurse who was the one legged Russian. “You sneaky bastard Tony!” I thought, “You sent her in there to poison that dickhead Phil”.

But nope, it was just an illness and Tony had nothing to do with it. Why show the Russian?

Bobbie and Tony have a drunken fight! Oh no Bobbie!! Tony is clearly pissed off, trouble is brewing…..but nothing happens again.

Vito’s kid is a goth that gooseberry fools in the shower! Phil and Tony both have manly chats with him and he gets dragged off to a camp….and nothing is said again. Why bring him back to the show at all?

The show has so many bizarre bits like that, which make no sense or go nowhere. It’s more disjointed than the latest Star Wars trilogy.

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by Mr. Sis Boom Bah » Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:53 pm

Moggy wrote:
The show also seemed to introduce plotlines that went nowhere. The therapist getting raped for instance, what the strawberry float was that in the show for? She later sees her attacker was “employee of the month” in a shop which was clearly leading to Tony taking care of it for her. But nope, it was never mentioned again.


dr. melfi's rape compels tony to show more of his true colours, in particular the simplistic morality of a mobster and emphasis on loyalty over order, and forces her into a dilemma: someone, however awful, might die as a result of her association with this guy, perhaps even against her wishes, and puts into question the distance she's able to impose on what's supposed to be a professional relationship.

it does kinda happen in a vacuum, but it's thematically coherent and is one of the earliest seeds planted for tony's later discharge from therapy, for exactly the reason his therapist gives then.


im not gonna run down all of your complaints, cause i havent seen the sopranos in a few years, and im not gonna argue about your score because who cares. but i do think you may have watched this show with certain expectations for tight A-to-B storytelling post-breaking bad, when - like mad men - it plays better taken in and digested as literature, like a greek epic, as expressed by its favour for thematic richness over functional continuity.

the sopranos is occasionally boring, frustrating, and obscure (particularly the dream sequences you're talking about): to a point that's by design. put it another, more charitable, subtweety way: it's bigger than a clockwork universe. it's certainly flawed, but it's got a lot to say, and it's bold as hell.

fake edit: after mounting that defense, i feel i should clarify that i don't feel the sopranos is the Greatest Show Ever or whatever, as better tv has come since, but i believe it's definitely a high water mark. i also think that the popular appetite has changed somewhat and it's a little harder to appreciate it in 2019.

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by Moggy » Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:03 pm

Verti-Forma (tape edit) wrote:
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The show also seemed to introduce plotlines that went nowhere. The therapist getting raped for instance, what the strawberry float was that in the show for? She later sees her attacker was “employee of the month” in a shop which was clearly leading to Tony taking care of it for her. But nope, it was never mentioned again.


dr. melfi's rape compels tony to show more of his true colours, in particular the simplistic morality of a mobster and emphasis on loyalty over order, and forces her into a dilemma: someone, however awful, might die as a result of her association with this guy, perhaps even against her wishes, and puts into question the distance she's able to impose on what's supposed to be a professional relationship.

it does kinda happen in a vacuum, but it's thematically coherent and is one of the earliest seeds planted for tony's later discharge from therapy, for exactly the reason his therapist gives then.


im not gonna run down all of your complaints, cause i havent seen the sopranos in a few years, and im not gonna argue about your score because who cares. but i do think you may have watched this show with certain expectations for tight A-to-B storytelling post-breaking bad, when - like mad men - it plays better taken in and digested as literature, like a greek epic, as expressed by its favour for thematic richness over functional continuity.

the sopranos is occasionally boring, frustrating, and obscure (particularly the dream sequences you're talking about): to a point that's by design. put it another, more charitable, subtweety way: it's bigger than a clockwork universe. it's certainly flawed, but it's got a lot to say, and it's bold as hell.

fake edit: after mounting that defense, i feel i should clarify that i don't feel the sopranos is the Greatest Show Ever or whatever, as better tv has come since, but i believe it's definitely a high water mark. i do think that the popular appetite has changed somewhat and it's a little harder to appreciate it in 2019.


I agree I was probably expecting too much of it, it was built up as one of the greatest shows of all time, it was always going to be hard to live up to that.

But I think the show is flawed. I enjoyed it, it’s a good show, but it’s not one of the greats. Maybe if I had watched it in 1999 I’d have a different opinion.

For your spoiler:

Tony never knew Melfi was raped. It happened, the police strawberry floated up and the guy was let go. She found out where he worked. And then nothing. Not even a discussion where she considers telling Tony. It just seemed to be going in one direction, before just being forgotten.

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by Mr. Sis Boom Bah » Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:10 pm

Moggy wrote:
Tony never knew Melfi was raped. It happened, the police strawberry floated up and the guy was let go. She found out where he worked. And then nothing. Not even a discussion where she considers telling Tony. It just seemed to be going in one direction, before just being forgotten.


i may have misremembered how it played out, but i feel pretty sure it was communicated between them in therapy, indirectly.

i'm not going to watch the whole show a third time through for a few years at least, so i'll just leave it there. your reading's completely fair. like even though it's clearly the point, strawberry floating anthony jr is an annoying shite, and some stretches of the sopranos are definitely work rather than entertainment.

what can i say!

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by Moggy » Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:36 pm

Verti-Forma (tape edit) wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Tony never knew Melfi was raped. It happened, the police strawberry floated up and the guy was let go. She found out where he worked. And then nothing. Not even a discussion where she considers telling Tony. It just seemed to be going in one direction, before just being forgotten.


i may have misremembered how it played out, but i feel pretty sure it was communicated between them in therapy, indirectly.

i'm not going to watch the whole show a third time through for a few years at least, so i'll just leave it there. your reading's completely fair. like even though it's clearly the point, strawberry floating anthony jr is an annoying shite, and some stretches of the sopranos are definitely work rather than entertainment.

what can i say!


It’s cool, I’m discussing rather than getting pissy.

AJ is a little twat. His “fiancée” was smoking hot though. :lol:


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