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PostRe: Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening Remake (Switch) - 20/09/2019
by gamerforever » Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:12 pm

Pedz wrote:Main Zelda Titles?


OOT, MM, WW, TP, SS, BOTW etc

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PostRe: Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening Remake (Switch) - 20/09/2019
by Pedz » Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:22 pm

Wait, you think that if it's 2D it isn't a main Zelda title?

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PostRe: Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening Remake (Switch) - 20/09/2019
by Tomous » Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:28 pm

Legend of Zelda was the first franchise to launch with over a decade of side games until it released its first main game in 1998.

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PostRe: Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening Remake (Switch) - 20/09/2019
by Balladeer » Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:44 pm

Not including LoZ and LttP is just plainly daft, but... this one does feel a bit spinoffy. Maybe not back in the day (although even then you had the weird parody elements, and the fact it was the first Zelda not set in Hyrule and not fighting against the series Big Bad), but now, as a port of a Game Boy game... I would agree that this feels like a stopgap between 'main' Zeldas. I'd say that the 'main' Zelda games are LoZ, LoZ2, LttP, OoT, MM is debatable and I think I'd lean on the side of not, WW, TP, SS, ALBW, and BotW.

YMMV, of course - and that doesn't mean it's any worse, although it doesn't work so well for me as most of those ones I've mentioned up top. I maintain that given time of release, the best Pokémon game is the side game Pokémon XD.

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PostRe: Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening Remake (Switch) - 20/09/2019
by shy guy 64 » Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:55 pm

i believe nintendo counts the "main series" titles as, the original, aol, alttp, la, oot, mm, oa/os, fs, ww, mc, fsa, tp, ph, st, ss, albw, tfh, botw and the upcoming botw2

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PostRe: Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening Remake (Switch) - 20/09/2019
by OrangeRKN » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:00 pm

To quote reliable source wikipedia: "Tezuka sought to make Link's Awakening a spin-off, and gave Tanabe instructions to omit common series elements such as Princess Zelda, the Triforce relic, and the setting Hyrule."

As a huge fan of Link's Awakening I'm comfortable in saying Link's Awakening is not a mainline game. At the very least, there has grown an obvious split between the 3D and 2D Zelda games so a remake of LA now very much falls into the 2D category.

I'd agree with Balla, and I'd probably note the original LA as the first of the 2D games to split from the mainline that became the 3D games.

On the wikipedia timeline only some of the games are bolded, which seems to indicate a "mainline", but it's weird to me because A Link Between Worlds is included!

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PostRe: Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening Remake (Switch) - 20/09/2019
by gamerforever » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:09 pm

Pedz wrote:Wait, you think that if it's 2D it isn't a main Zelda title?

:lol:


Well I guess ALTTP would be, forgot about that, but this is basically a handheld game. I now know what Nintendo are up to blurring the line between handheld and home console games. They can effectively release handheld games at full price!

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PostRe: Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening Remake (Switch) - 20/09/2019
by Balladeer » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:10 pm

OrangeRKN wrote:On the wikipedia timeline only some of the games are bolded, which seems to indicate a "mainline", but it's weird to me because A Link Between Worlds is included!

I was on the money! Well I wasn't because I forgot WW, but other than that!

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PostRe: Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening Remake (Switch) - 20/09/2019
by OrangeRKN » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:12 pm

I'm really not sure what makes ALBW distinct from Phantom Hourglass or Spirit Tracks, but there we go

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PostRe: Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening Remake (Switch) - 20/09/2019
by Balladeer » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:15 pm

I think at some stage it has to come down to ‘gut feel’. Those games didn’t take place in Hyrule, didn’t have Ganon, and... frankly felt a bit weird. Meanwhile ALBW was a direct sequel to an unarguably mainline Zelda, set in the same world.

Hyrule or not probably works for the (single-player) Zelda to be honest, although that rules out MM.

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PostRe: Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening Remake (Switch) - 20/09/2019
by Karl_ » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:25 pm

Spirit Tracks is not even a videogame.

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PostRe: Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening Remake (Switch) - 20/09/2019
by Pedz » Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:10 pm

Balladeer wrote:
OrangeRKN wrote:On the wikipedia timeline only some of the games are bolded, which seems to indicate a "mainline", but it's weird to me because A Link Between Worlds is included!

I was on the money! Well I wasn't because I forgot WW, but other than that!


A Link Between Worlds is included, but not Phantom hourglass. Sorry, but no.

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PostRe: Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening Remake (Switch) - 20/09/2019
by OrangeRKN » Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:24 pm

Karl_ wrote:Spirit Tracks is not even a videogame.

No I will not explain


I do not follow your train of thought

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PostRe: Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening Remake (Switch) - 20/09/2019
by Pedz » Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:27 pm

Balladeer wrote:I think at some stage it has to come down to ‘gut feel’. Those games didn’t take place in Hyrule, didn’t have Ganon, and... frankly felt a bit weird. Meanwhile ALBW was a direct sequel to an unarguably mainline Zelda, set in the same world.

Hyrule or not probably works for the (single-player) Zelda to be honest, although that rules out MM.


Sorry, but Phantom Hourglass is the same Link and Zelda from Wind Waker looking for a New Hyrule. it is a direct sequel to Wind Waker just as much as A Link Between Worlds is to A Link to the Past.

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PostRe: Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening Remake (Switch) - 20/09/2019
by Balladeer » Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:30 pm

It's almost like you quoted my post, responded to it, and in doing so ignored everything after the first 'Zelda'. :P Also the one earlier where I said YMMV.

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PostRe: Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening Remake (Switch) - 20/09/2019
by Pedz » Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:36 pm

I have no idea what you mean by ignoring evrything after first 'Zelda' to be completely honest with you. I simply qouted a post, and said if you consider A Link Bewtween Worlds a main Zelda, then the same should be applied to Phantom Hourglass ieven if you feel the game is "frankly a bit weird"

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PostRe: Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening Remake (Switch) - 20/09/2019
by OrangeRKN » Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:37 pm

YMMW takes place after ALBW but before BOTW right?

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PostRe: Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening Remake (Switch) - 20/09/2019
by Pedz » Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:41 pm

Thought YMMV was a sequel to Link's Crossbow Training tbh.

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PostRe: Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening Remake (Switch) - 20/09/2019
by Balladeer » Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:55 pm

Pedz wrote:I have no idea what you mean by ignoring evrything after first 'Zelda' to be completely honest with you. I simply qouted a post, and said if you consider A Link Bewtween Worlds a main Zelda, then the same should be applied to Phantom Hourglass ieven if you feel the game is "frankly a bit weird"


Balladeer wrote:I think at some stage it has to come down to ‘gut feel’. Those games didn’t take place in Hyrule, didn’t have Ganon, and... frankly felt a bit weird. Meanwhile ALBW was a direct sequel to an unarguably mainline Zelda (first use of word 'Zelda' in post), set in the same world.

Hyrule or not probably works for the (single-player) Zelda to be honest, although that rules out MM.

When it comes down to it there's no right or wrong answer, it's all subjective, and 'frankly a bit weird' is as good an answer as any; but it's not my only criterion.

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PostRe: Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening Remake (Switch) - 20/09/2019
by shy guy 64 » Thu Oct 24, 2019 3:57 pm

so here we are people debating what counts as a main line zelda game and what doesnt

ive lost track, why does it matter?

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