Legend of Zelda - General series chat

Well it’s certainly not the Skyward Sword one.

People go strawberry floating bananas over the Breath of the Wild one, which is indeed fantastic but trailers are so much an instant reaction kinda thing and I was still in an apprehensive mind about BotW at the time and being very cautious to avoid spoilers. It’s the Wind Waker or Twilight Princess ones for me. Probably the latter because at the time it had a ‘Zelda is coming home’ kinda vibe.

Objectively probably the BotW though as even watching that now gives me goose bumps. I don’t know how I managed to keep the Great Deku Tree being in the game a surprise for me as it’s very obvious watching the trailer. I must have watched it from behind my fingers. The music is incredible. It does kinda right cheques for the story that the game can’t cash though.

Controversial opinion: I don't think any of those trailers are particularly good! Game trailers have always been a bit pants really, particularly those from 20 odd years ago - nobody really seemed to get the skill that goes into crafting a good trailer, aside from a few notable exceptions.

There's a reason something like the MGS2 trailer stood out so much back in the day, every other trailer was just a random set of gameplay footage loosely cobbled together over some soundbites and generic music

Jenuall wrote:Nothing says TLOZ like a creepy guy locked away in isolation clearly having some kind of nervous breakdown!

that feels like a cheap shot at me

shy guy 64 wrote:

Jenuall wrote:Nothing says TLOZ like a creepy guy locked away in isolation clearly having some kind of nervous breakdown!

that feels like a cheap shot at me

Don't worry, it wasn't.

I don't think Nintendo of America designed that advert nearly 35 years ago as a way of targeting you specifically shy guy!

I dunno, they named a character after him. Not exactly subtle Nintendo.

Jenuall wrote:

shy guy 64 wrote:

Jenuall wrote:Nothing says TLOZ like a creepy guy locked away in isolation clearly having some kind of nervous breakdown!

that feels like a cheap shot at me

Don't worry, it wasn't.

I don't think Nintendo of America designed that advert nearly 35 years ago as a way of targeting you specifically shy guy!

I do not remember what I thought when I wrote that

I think I was trying to get in on the joke

Captain Kinopio wrote:Well it’s certainly not the Skyward Sword one.

People go strawberry floating bananas over the Breath of the Wild one, which is indeed fantastic but trailers are so much an instant reaction kinda thing and I was still in an apprehensive mind about BotW at the time and being very cautious to avoid spoilers. It’s the Wind Waker or Twilight Princess ones for me. Probably the latter because at the time it had a ‘Zelda is coming home’ kinda vibe.

Objectively probably the BotW though as even watching that now gives me goose bumps. I don’t know how I managed to keep the Great Deku Tree being in the game a surprise for me as it’s very obvious watching the trailer. I must have watched it from behind my fingers. The music is incredible. It does kinda right cheques for the story that the game can’t cash though.

I love the Skyward Sword one, though I suppose it's less of a trailer proper than a sort of vignette, a flavour of some of the game's tone and vibe.

I'm not one of the true BotW believers but deffo agree that the BotW trailer is goosebumps all over.

Agree though about the story, the trailer makes it look like a proper journey arc when in reality it feels way looser, with less momentum from the story events.

But I reckon that's also down to the use of music - the trailer's music and its use of the Zelda theme gives a sense of coherence and continuity to everything. But in the game proper not only is the use of music often more ambient, intermittent and sometimes only suggestive, without resolving into full melodies (unlike the omnipresence of area music and so on in past games, which I think made everything feel 'centred' and significant, as part of this Legend?), there's also the fact that the BotW main theme (which is great! but appears mainly only in trailers?!) isn't used throughout much until the set-piece ending.

This suits the game's view of nature and landscape and feeling off-map whilst exploring, in the wild. But it's a big difference to something like SS where the Ballad of the Goddesses is sung by Zelda in the intro, and keeps appearing in various forms right the way until the end (see also: variations of Fi's theme etc.) which gives a thread of continuity but also fixes you at the heart of the events, the events themselves elevated by the music accompanying them.

This is the best Twilight Princess trailer

Captain Kinopio wrote:This is the best Twilight Princess trailer

Agreed. That's a banger with a dynamite last minute.

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Belting.

Lol the little bit of dribble at the end

This is the time in the cycle where we know we need a new zelda game... Discussing the best trailer, seriously

I know just like twilight princess BOTW was some kind of "cross gen" title albeit with near identical graphics but it's been several years now, I'm late to the Switch party and I'm probably not forking out almost 40 quid for the same game again.

I've got to finish Xenoblade Chronicles 3D but maybe then the sequel will tide me over exploration wise.

You should get Link's Awakening though

Green Gecko wrote:Lol the little bit of dribble at the end

This is the time in the cycle where we know we need a new zelda game... Discussing the best trailer, seriously

I know just like twilight princess BOTW was some kind of "cross gen" title albeit with near identical graphics but it's been several years now, I'm late to the Switch party and I'm probably not forking out almost 40 quid for the same game again.

Nintendo have ignored Zelda's 35th so far.


Now the Mario 35th window is over, surely they have something up their sleeve?

OrangeRKN wrote:You should get Link's Awakening though

I'm still making my way through the GBC game on 3DS which also have the cart for. I don't want to start again.

Tomous wrote:

Green Gecko wrote:Lol the little bit of dribble at the end

This is the time in the cycle where we know we need a new zelda game... Discussing the best trailer, seriously

I know just like twilight princess BOTW was some kind of "cross gen" title albeit with near identical graphics but it's been several years now, I'm late to the Switch party and I'm probably not forking out almost 40 quid for the same game again.

Nintendo have ignored Zelda's 35th so far.

Now the Mario 35th window is over, surely they have something up their sleeve?

I’d guess they are keeping any reveal if there are any to E3 as it’s just over a month away.

Miguel007 wrote:

Tomous wrote:

Green Gecko wrote:Lol the little bit of dribble at the end

This is the time in the cycle where we know we need a new zelda game... Discussing the best trailer, seriously

I know just like twilight princess BOTW was some kind of "cross gen" title albeit with near identical graphics but it's been several years now, I'm late to the Switch party and I'm probably not forking out almost 40 quid for the same game again.

Nintendo have ignored Zelda's 35th so far.

Now the Mario 35th window is over, surely they have something up their sleeve?

I’d guess they are keeping any reveal if there are any to E3 as it’s just over a month away.

Depends what they've got planned. If they're doing a 6 month thing with stuff like Mario I'd expect something before E3. Of course, Zelda isn't Mario. They might not have as much planned.

I'm not even sure why 35 was treated as a big anniversary for Mario tbh, it's not really notable except it got made into a marketing thing. I wouldn't be surprised not to see anything for Zelda (although I bet we will get Animal Crossing crossover stuff within the year)

OrangeRKN wrote:I'm not even sure why 35 was treated as a big anniversary for Mario tbh, it's not really notable except it got made into a marketing thing. I wouldn't be surprised not to see anything for Zelda (although I bet we will get Animal Crossing crossover stuff within the year)

You didn't even finish your sentence before you answered why it was treated as a big anniversary

Yeah you got me

I guess my point is rather - the Zelda 35th anniversary isn't one we should expect Nintendo to feel compelled to acknowledge.