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Re: Louis Theroux in Philadelphia - Sunday

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:31 am
by Mr Luke
Wouldn't it be great if they could move the decent people out of the neighbourhood and fence all the scum in and let them live in their own ghetto. They complain about the police not doing anything but yet are totally unwilling to help them in their duties.

Re: Louis Theroux in Philadelphia - Sunday

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 2:22 am
by satriales
I enjoyed this but I also felt I'd seen it all before in The Wire. I guess it just shows how realistic The Wire really is.

Skarjo wrote:An actual documentary will always hold more clout than a fictionalised show. As I've said, though I've never watched The Wire itself, and though I'm aware of other shows than have fictionally brought real issues to light, to say that a documentary brings nothing new to the argument nor illustrates things that people were not otherwise aware of is not true.

If you haven't seen The Wire then you wouldn't understand, but it's like no other show. The creator of The Wire was a homicide detective for twenty years so he knows exactly what it's like on the streets, and the characters are based on real people and played by actors who have experienced that life. IMO The Wire did a better job of showing what life on the streets is like, but to be fair they have had several seasons worth of episodes to do that and Louis Theroux only had an hour.

Re: Louis Theroux in Philadelphia - Sunday

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:57 am
by Captain Kinopio
satriales wrote:I enjoyed this but I also felt I'd seen it all before in The Wire. I guess it just shows how realistic The Wire really is.

Skarjo wrote:An actual documentary will always hold more clout than a fictionalised show. As I've said, though I've never watched The Wire itself, and though I'm aware of other shows than have fictionally brought real issues to light, to say that a documentary brings nothing new to the argument nor illustrates things that people were not otherwise aware of is not true.

If you haven't seen The Wire then you wouldn't understand, but it's like no other show. The creator of The Wire was a homicide detective for twenty years so he knows exactly what it's like on the streets, and the characters are based on real people and played by actors who have experienced that life. IMO The Wire did a better job of showing what life on the streets is like, but to be fair they have had several seasons worth of episodes to do that and Louis Theroux only had an hour.


:?
Um, no he wasn't.

He was a journalist.

Re: Louis Theroux in Philadelphia - Sunday

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:41 pm
by BobbyDigital
Aite, I ain't see all of this but still got opinions on what everyones been saying.

First thing, yeah Anung, cats are people mayne.

Aite, you all heard of snitching right??? Well thats what people are afraid of.

Originally snitching was, say me and two friends tried to rob a bank, I get caught but they get away, if IU told the po po who they was to get less jail time then I would be snitching.

Now kids got it mixed up and think that talking to police is snitching. Snitches can get killed quick mayne, either in jail or on the streets.

Snitching is probably one of the worst things you could do.

So thats why there is a lack of co-opertation with the one times.

It's strawberry floated up but thats reality mayne.

Also :lol: @ Louis asking how much they chains cost and gooseberry fool. Louis bout to get it pimpin.

It ain't really tell me much I ain't already know though, I been knowing Philly was strawberry floated up, I know peeps ain't wanna talk to feds.

Re: Louis Theroux in Philadelphia - Sunday

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:44 pm
by KK
Merry Chistmas, Noobs! wrote:Philadelphia needs Sheriff John Burnell.

What Philadelphia needs is Barney Fife & company.

Re: Louis Theroux in Philadelphia - Sunday

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:46 pm
by Jimmy Shedders
I always thought Philadelphia was full of film stars with AIDs, not criminals. :(

Re: Louis Theroux in Philadelphia - Sunday

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:45 pm
by Lenty
Herbi wrote:
satriales wrote:I enjoyed this but I also felt I'd seen it all before in The Wire. I guess it just shows how realistic The Wire really is.

Skarjo wrote:An actual documentary will always hold more clout than a fictionalised show. As I've said, though I've never watched The Wire itself, and though I'm aware of other shows than have fictionally brought real issues to light, to say that a documentary brings nothing new to the argument nor illustrates things that people were not otherwise aware of is not true.

If you haven't seen The Wire then you wouldn't understand, but it's like no other show. The creator of The Wire was a homicide detective for twenty years so he knows exactly what it's like on the streets, and the characters are based on real people and played by actors who have experienced that life. IMO The Wire did a better job of showing what life on the streets is like, but to be fair they have had several seasons worth of episodes to do that and Louis Theroux only had an hour.


:?
Um, no he wasn't.

He was a journalist.

Ed Burns who was the writing partner with David on the Wire was though. But yeah - David Simon is listed as the creator so best to clear that up.

Re: Louis Theroux in Philadelphia - Sunday

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:14 pm
by Floex
Watching this made me get back to finishing Season 3 of The Wire. Seeing as i'm off ill I gave it ago today! strawberry float, the ending, man! :o

Anyway, another great doco from Louis and Co. Next weeks one looks even worst

Re: Louis Theroux in Philadelphia - Sunday

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:57 pm
by Lex-Man
Does anyone know where I could watch the wire?

Re: Louis Theroux in Philadelphia - Sunday

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:59 pm
by Floex
Here's a great place

The Wire

Re: Louis Theroux in Philadelphia - Sunday

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:07 pm
by Alkaline
I thought this was brilliant, his best in a long time.

Re: Louis Theroux in Philadelphia - Sunday

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:16 pm
by Sarge
Hangung Uh Bauble wrote:FX still show it dont they? Dvds are pretty decently priced aswell.


Not at the moment, they might re-air all the seasons again but don't count on it.

The complete box set (£90 for all 5 seasons) is very tempting, something to add to my Christmas list methinks.

clicky

:o

Re: Louis Theroux in Philadelphia - Sunday

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:33 pm
by satriales
Herbi wrote:
satriales wrote:I enjoyed this but I also felt I'd seen it all before in The Wire. I guess it just shows how realistic The Wire really is.

Skarjo wrote:An actual documentary will always hold more clout than a fictionalised show. As I've said, though I've never watched The Wire itself, and though I'm aware of other shows than have fictionally brought real issues to light, to say that a documentary brings nothing new to the argument nor illustrates things that people were not otherwise aware of is not true.

If you haven't seen The Wire then you wouldn't understand, but it's like no other show. The creator of The Wire was a homicide detective for twenty years so he knows exactly what it's like on the streets, and the characters are based on real people and played by actors who have experienced that life. IMO The Wire did a better job of showing what life on the streets is like, but to be fair they have had several seasons worth of episodes to do that and Louis Theroux only had an hour.


:?
Um, no he wasn't.

He was a journalist.

Oh yeah, my mistake, as mentioned earlier it was the co-creator Ed Burns not David Simon.

Edit: I think this quote from David Simon sums up what I was trying to say:
DAVID SIMON: I think what you sense in The Wire is that it is violating a good many of the conventions and tropes of episodic television. It isn’t really structured as episodic television and it instead pursues the form of the modern, multi-POV novel. Why? Primarily because the creators and contributors are not by training or inclination television writers. In fact, it is a little bit remarkable that we ended up with a television drama on HBO or anywhere else. I am a newspaper reporter by training who wrote a couple long, multi-POV nonfiction narratives, Homicide and The Corner. The first became the basis for the NBC drama of the same name; the second I was able to produce as a miniseries for HBO, airing in 2000. Both works are the result of a journalistic impulse, the first recounting a year I spent with the Baltimore Police Department’s Homicide Unit, and the second book detailing a year spent in a drug-saturated West Baltimore neighborhood, following an extended, drug-involved family. Ed Burns, my coauthor on The Corner and co-creator on The Wire, was a homicide detective who served in the BPD for twenty years and, following that for seven years, a seventh-grade teacher at a Baltimore public school. The remaining writers—Richard Price [Clockers], Dennis Lehane [Mystic River], and George Pelecanos [The Night Gardener]—are novelists working at the highest level of the crime genre. Bill Zorzi covered state and municipal politics for the Baltimore Sun for twenty years; Rafael Alvarez, another Sun veteran, worked as a merchant seaman and comes from two generations of port workers. So we are all rooted in a different place than Hollywood.

Re: Louis Theroux in Philadelphia - Sunday

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:13 pm
by Clarkman
Man deserves Knighthood.

Re: Louis Theroux in Philadelphia - Sunday

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:24 pm
by Xeno
I'm looking forward to the next episode where he is in Joburg.