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by PsychicSykes » Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:51 am

VlaSoul wrote:i strawberry floating hate brie larson rn so her very presence in that film irked me a great deal

Why?

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by Hyperion » Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:43 am

Cheeky Devlin wrote:Not really sure what to make of the second one as it raises so many questions. Though it makes Fury's line about "Don't mention her" when Peter asks about Captain Marvel make sense. Definitely looking forward to seeing it again.


That's not Fury though...

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by Captain Kinopio » Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:56 am

Saw Spiderman yesterday. Must admit I didn't enjoy it as much as I was hoping. Though my opinion of Homecoming was below general consensus too, and I thought Homecoming was better than this. It was fine but that's all really, didn't think any of the jokes were particularly good and dialogue in general just wasn't very punchy. The best stuff were the character interactions and school trip stuff. The action just seemed like vfx soup and way to much of it. The illusion sequences were good though. Thought Fury was really weird throughout the entire film. The post credits explained it though and if Jackson deliberately altered his performance to account for that it definitely came across. I really like Tom Holland but he was a bit mopey in this and are they really going with him being 16?

Also I guess Tony Stark just had several satellites full of killer drones huh.

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PostRe: Marvel Cinematic Universe Thread
by Robbo-92 » Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:23 pm

Saw Spiderman Far From Home earlier today, thought it was pretty good, tempted to give Homecoming another watch now.

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PostRe: Marvel Cinematic Universe Thread
by Mafro » Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:28 pm

PsychicSykes wrote:
VlaSoul wrote:i strawberry floating hate brie larson rn so her very presence in that film irked me a great deal

Why?

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PostRe: Marvel Cinematic Universe Thread
by VlaSoul » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:07 pm

PsychicSykes wrote:
VlaSoul wrote:i strawberry floating hate brie larson rn so her very presence in that film irked me a great deal

Why?

how could you not hate her

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by shy guy 64 » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:15 pm

saw spider man thought it was awesome

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by Mafro » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:24 pm

VlaSoul wrote:
PsychicSykes wrote:
VlaSoul wrote:i strawberry floating hate brie larson rn so her very presence in that film irked me a great deal

Why?

how could you not hate her

Because she's a really good actress who plays the role very well?

Do you have a specific reason to hate her?

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PostRe: Marvel Cinematic Universe Thread
by Tomous » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:19 pm

Yeah, while I was ultimately disappointed by the Captain Marvel Film, Brie Larson is great.

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by Corazon de Leon » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:22 pm

I can't really think of anyone else who would've played the role well, either. Can't see any problem with Brie Larson personally.

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PostRe: Marvel Cinematic Universe Thread
by VlaSoul » Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:24 pm

Mafro wrote:
VlaSoul wrote:
PsychicSykes wrote:
VlaSoul wrote:i strawberry floating hate brie larson rn so her very presence in that film irked me a great deal

Why?

how could you not hate her

Because she's a really good actress who plays the role very well?

Do you have a specific reason to hate her?

Yeah ok "hate" is admittedly a heavily played up reaction
I do dislike her tho, I haven't seen a huge amount of films she's been in, but in the ones I have seen she's been arguably the least memorable part. This is particularly true for Endgame where in a universe of superheroes she still ends up feeling like some kind of deus ex machina who feels like she doesnt need to be in the film. I haven't seen Captain Marvel since MCU films for the most part don't interest me enough for me to want to see them until they come on sky cinema like half a year later, so maybe I'm missing context but I don't think that changes what she is in avengers.

Additionally her manner in interviews doesn't always sit well with me, like that one where she's asked what it's like to be a woman in film, and then adds a statement about coloured women, which came off as entirely disingenuous(additionally within the context of the interview it's a huge faux pas as it's a white person being interviewed by a black person, which is very typical of the kind of unconscious middle class racism that I've seen a lot of). Then of course there's the interview where she talks about a Wrinkle in Time, where while she brings up a lot of good points; she goes on to largely dismiss criticism at the film (largely levelled at the actual FILM MAKING aspect of it) because of the the prevalence of white males in film criticism. That to me, came off as a relatively privileged white woman using the very real issue of representation in industry to deflect criticism from a product she cares about, where said criticism has very little do with any facet of representation.

I'm sure her heart's in the right place, especially considering her advocacy, but she seems out of touch in a lot of ways

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by Hexx » Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:28 pm

VlaSoul wrote:the interview where she talks about a Wrinkle in Time, where while she brings up a lot of good points; she goes on to largely dismiss criticism at the film (largely levelled at the actual FILM MAKING aspect of it) because of the the prevalence of white males in film criticism. That to me, came off as a relatively privileged white woman using the very real issue of representation in industry to deflect criticism from a product she cares about, where said criticism has very little do with any facet of representation.


Which interview was that?

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PostRe: Marvel Cinematic Universe Thread
by Preezy » Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:30 pm

From what I've seen of her, she's pretty fit but comes across as a bit bland and expressionless in her performances. I'm sure she's put in some great performances, I just haven't seen them yet.

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PostRe: Marvel Cinematic Universe Thread
by Tomous » Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:31 pm

VlaSoul wrote:
Mafro wrote:
VlaSoul wrote:
PsychicSykes wrote:
VlaSoul wrote:i strawberry floating hate brie larson rn so her very presence in that film irked me a great deal

Why?

how could you not hate her

Because she's a really good actress who plays the role very well?

Do you have a specific reason to hate her?

Yeah ok "hate" is admittedly a heavily played up reaction
I do dislike her tho, I haven't seen a huge amount of films she's been in, but in the ones I have seen she's been arguably the least memorable part. This is particularly true for Endgame where in a universe of superheroes she still ends up feeling like some kind of deus ex machina who feels like she doesnt need to be in the film. I haven't seen Captain Marvel since MCU films for the most part don't interest me enough for me to want to see them until they come on sky cinema like half a year later, so maybe I'm missing context but I don't think that changes what she is in avengers.

Additionally her manner in interviews doesn't always sit well with me, like that one where she's asked what it's like to be a woman in film, and then adds a statement about coloured women, which came off as entirely disingenuous(additionally within the context of the interview it's a huge faux pas as it's a white person being interviewed by a black person, which is very typical of the kind of unconscious middle class racism that I've seen a lot of). Then of course there's the interview where she talks about a Wrinkle in Time, where while she brings up a lot of good points; she goes on to largely dismiss criticism at the film (largely levelled at the actual FILM MAKING aspect of it) because of the the prevalence of white males in film criticism. That to me, came off as a relatively privileged white woman using the very real issue of representation in industry to deflect criticism from a product she cares about, where said criticism has very little do with any facet of representation.

I'm sure her heart's in the right place, especially considering her advocacy, but she seems out of touch in a lot of ways



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PostRe: Marvel Cinematic Universe Thread
by VlaSoul » Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:44 pm

Tomous wrote:
VlaSoul wrote:Additionally her manner in interviews doesn't always sit well with me, like that one where she's asked what it's like to be a woman in film, and then adds a statement about coloured women, which came off as entirely disingenuous(additionally within the context of the interview it's a huge faux pas as it's a white person being interviewed by a black person, which is very typical of the kind of unconscious middle class racism that I've seen a lot of). Then of course there's the interview where she talks about a Wrinkle in Time, where while she brings up a lot of good points; she goes on to largely dismiss criticism at the film (largely levelled at the actual FILM MAKING aspect of it) because of the the prevalence of white males in film criticism. That to me, came off as a relatively privileged white woman using the very real issue of representation in industry to deflect criticism from a product she cares about, where said criticism has very little do with any facet of representation.

I'm sure her heart's in the right place, especially considering her advocacy, but she seems out of touch in a lot of ways



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isn't that the exact phrasing she used as well?
if it wasnt; my b, I tend to forget that can be offensive so yeah I guess I am a bit out of touch

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VlaSoul wrote:the interview where she talks about a Wrinkle in Time, where while she brings up a lot of good points; she goes on to largely dismiss criticism at the film (largely levelled at the actual FILM MAKING aspect of it) because of the the prevalence of white males in film criticism. That to me, came off as a relatively privileged white woman using the very real issue of representation in industry to deflect criticism from a product she cares about, where said criticism has very little do with any facet of representation.


Which interview was that?

my mistake, not an interview
it was a speech at some awards show

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PostRe: Marvel Cinematic Universe Thread
by Tineash » Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:44 pm

Watch less Youtube.

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PostRe: Marvel Cinematic Universe Thread
by Hexx » Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:45 pm

VlaSoul wrote:
Tomous wrote:
Additionally her manner in interviews doesn't always sit well with me, like that one where she's asked what it's like to be a woman in film, and then adds a statement about coloured women, which came off as entirely disingenuous(additionally within the context of the interview it's a huge faux pas as it's a white person being interviewed by a black person, which is very typical of the kind of unconscious middle class racism that I've seen a lot of). Then of course there's the interview where she talks about a Wrinkle in Time, where while she brings up a lot of good points; she goes on to largely dismiss criticism at the film (largely levelled at the actual FILM MAKING aspect of it) because of the the prevalence of white males in film criticism. That to me, came off as a relatively privileged white woman using the very real issue of representation in industry to deflect criticism from a product she cares about, where said criticism has very little do with any facet of representation.

I'm sure her heart's in the right place, especially considering her advocacy, but she seems out of touch in a lot of ways



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isn't that the exact phrasing she used as well?
if it wasnt; my b, I tend to forget that can be offensive so yeah I guess I am a bit out of touch

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VlaSoul wrote:the interview where she talks about a Wrinkle in Time, where while she brings up a lot of good points; she goes on to largely dismiss criticism at the film (largely levelled at the actual FILM MAKING aspect of it) because of the the prevalence of white males in film criticism. That to me, came off as a relatively privileged white woman using the very real issue of representation in industry to deflect criticism from a product she cares about, where said criticism has very little do with any facet of representation.


Which interview was that?

my mistake, not an interview
it was a speech at some awards show[/quote]

I'd still like to see it.

And how was she responding to critical comments if she was the only one speaking?

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PostRe: Marvel Cinematic Universe Thread
by Tafdolphin » Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:45 pm

Um.

Huh.

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PostRe: Marvel Cinematic Universe Thread
by Rex Kramer » Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:47 pm

She used the phrase 'women of colour' which is quite some distance away from coloured women.

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PostRe: Marvel Cinematic Universe Thread
by VlaSoul » Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:49 pm

Tineash wrote:Watch less Youtube.

i find the constant cavalcade of losers on the internet complaining about her and her film for no reason other than the fact she's a feminist and a woman as annoying as the next dude

Hexx wrote:And how was she responding to critical comments if she was the only one speaking?

it was in response to pre existing criticism


Again, I agree with a lot of what she's saying here, but parts of it come off as dismissive and at worst exploitative

also strawberry float the channel that links to is uhhhhhhhhhhhh yikes

Rex Kramer wrote:She used the phrase 'women of colour' which is quite some distance away from coloured women.

yeah ok that's my b then
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