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Re: [MCU Thread] Ant-Man and the Wasp trailer p223

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:36 pm
by BID0
Frank wrote:The only reason Thor 3 might have sounded bad was because Thor 2 was one of the worst Marvel films. Was reading earlier that apparently Patty Jenkins was meant to be directing The Dark World... Wonder if she'd have managed to make it any better than it ended up being!

The Dark World had a troubled production. Jaimie Alexander was meant to have a bigger role but had a severe injury early in the shoot that nearly paralysed her. On top of that, the old Marvel round table apparently cut the movie to pieces during post production as well.

Liv Tyler really needs to make a comeback. I read a rumour that she was in Infinity War :(

Re: [MCU Thread] Ant-Man and the Wasp trailer p223

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:09 am
by Corazon de Leon
BID0 wrote:
Frank wrote:The only reason Thor 3 might have sounded bad was because Thor 2 was one of the worst Marvel films. Was reading earlier that apparently Patty Jenkins was meant to be directing The Dark World... Wonder if she'd have managed to make it any better than it ended up being!

The Dark World had a troubled production. Jaimie Alexander was meant to have a bigger role but had a severe injury early in the shoot that nearly paralysed her. On top of that, the old Marvel round table apparently cut the movie to pieces during post production as well.

Liv Tyler really needs to make a comeback. I read a rumour that she was in Infinity War :(


The Russos apparently confirmed Betty Ross was dusted at the end of the movie. :slol:

Really looking forward to the next four or five Marvel movies, they've hit a patch of what I can only describe as pure confidence in their own ability to create within the universe, and the last few movies have been really impressive.

Re: [MCU Thread] Ant-Man and the Wasp trailer p223

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:20 pm
by BID0
Corazon de Leon wrote:
BID0 wrote:
Frank wrote:The only reason Thor 3 might have sounded bad was because Thor 2 was one of the worst Marvel films. Was reading earlier that apparently Patty Jenkins was meant to be directing The Dark World... Wonder if she'd have managed to make it any better than it ended up being!

The Dark World had a troubled production. Jaimie Alexander was meant to have a bigger role but had a severe injury early in the shoot that nearly paralysed her. On top of that, the old Marvel round table apparently cut the movie to pieces during post production as well.

Liv Tyler really needs to make a comeback. I read a rumour that she was in Infinity War :(


The Russos apparently confirmed Betty Ross was dusted at the end of the movie. :slol:

Really looking forward to the next four or five Marvel movies, they've hit a patch of what I can only describe as pure confidence in their own ability to create within the universe, and the last few movies have been really impressive.

strawberry float sake Betty was the best character :cry:

Re: [MCU Thread] Ant-Man and the Wasp trailer p223

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:30 pm
by Mafro

twitter.com/Borys_Kit/status/1020388187808514048


Re: [MCU Thread] Ant-Man and the Wasp trailer p223

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:34 pm
by Godzilla
Terrible news. Also completely not needed. Just needs to apologise say he has moved on and grown up.

Amazing film maker, Slither was bloody awesome.

Re: [MCU Thread] Ant-Man and the Wasp trailer p223

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:55 pm
by Mafro
Seems like he pissed off some alt-right dickheads who dug up old tweets. No idea what the tweets actually were.

Re: [MCU Thread] Ant-Man and the Wasp trailer p223

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:01 pm
by Godzilla
Wonder who will replace him.....

Ron Howard is free....

Re: [MCU Thread] Ant-Man and the Wasp trailer p223

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:06 pm
by Mafro
Taika Waititi is surely the obvious choice?

Re: [MCU Thread] Ant-Man and the Wasp trailer p223

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:20 pm
by Corazon de Leon
Mafro wrote:Taika Waititi is surely the obvious choice?


You’d think so but he’s quite hard to pin down for blockbusters I think - he tends to enjoy going back to NZ to film for a lot of his stuff.

Re: [MCU Thread] Ant-Man and the Wasp trailer p223

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:34 pm
by Garth
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I can see why Disney decided to fire him, not a good look!

Re: [MCU Thread] Ant-Man and the Wasp trailer p223

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:36 pm
by Godzilla
If DC is smart they'll get him to direct something for them.

Hopefully he can come back from this.

Re: [MCU Thread] Ant-Man and the Wasp trailer p223

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:49 pm
by Floex
I don’t know what that last tweet was about but it’s just madness. He’s already apologised for this in the past. Yes, it was stupid to post these things on a social space but to get fired sets such a bad precedent.

So are Disney going to get rid of Downey because of his past? Of course not.

This is bigger than Gunn’s expulsion, it’s about the alt right playing the left into moral outrage that will eventually implode in on itself.

Re: [MCU Thread] Ant-Man and the Wasp trailer p223

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:04 pm
by Return_of_the_STAR
That last tweet looks a bit like a hack. Like when a virus sends an email out to everyone in your address book.

Re: [MCU Thread] Ant-Man and the Wasp trailer p223

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:24 am
by Tafdolphin
I'm very angry about this: it was a direct response from the alt-right to his constant hating on Trump. It was revenge. BUT, after seeing those tweets, Disney had no choice. This wasn't the ArenaNet firings, people have been fired for much less.

I'm angry entirely at Gunn. Why the strawberry float were those tweets still up on his account in 2018? They should have been deleted immediately after he got Guardians.

Re: [MCU Thread] Ant-Man and the Wasp trailer p223

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:33 am
by Moggy
We are living in strange times. I can see why those Tweets are unsuitable for an employee of Disney, but they are also almost 10 years old.

As a society we are going to have to get to a stage where there is a cut off point for outrage over stupid things we have said online. It’s fair enough if he had tweeted them a week ago, it’s a little crazy to use 9 year old jokes against him.

When it comes to offensive writings, as long as the person is no longer doing it or has changed their opinions, we should ignore/forgive/forget daft gooseberry fool people wrote years ago.

I do agree with Taf though, when he became high profile he really should have deleted his old posts.

Re: [MCU Thread] Ant-Man and the Wasp trailer p223

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:41 am
by Floex
Tafdolphin wrote:I'm very angry about this: it was a direct response from the alt-right to his constant hating on Trump. It was revenge. BUT, after seeing those tweets, Disney had no choice. This wasn't the ArenaNet firings, people have been fired for much less.

I'm angry entirely at Gunn. Why the strawberry float were those tweets still up on his account in 2018? They should have been deleted immediately after he got Guardians.


What do you mean they had no choice? Disney hired him AFTER these tweets were made, he’s apologised for this 6 YEARS ago. Should he have deleted these tweets? Sure but then you’ll have people saying ‘oh he’s trying to hide his past’.

There’s no such thing as second chances anymore in the social space. And you’re entirely angry at Gunn? Really? You’re being played if you think that’s the case. The right are playing the left against each other and this is just another small example of that.

Re: [MCU Thread] Ant-Man and the Wasp trailer p223

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:14 am
by Benzin
It's like when the Liverpool 'fans' found some offensive tweets from a player who scored against them and got him a few games banned...

It's worrying that people are that sad to trawl through years of posts to find something like this, as bad as they are in terms of jokes (clearly Gunn has a very warped sense of humour), might as well get everyone to start on a clean slate...

Re: [MCU Thread] Ant-Man and the Wasp trailer p223

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:19 am
by Tafdolphin
Floex wrote:
Tafdolphin wrote:I'm very angry about this: it was a direct response from the alt-right to his constant hating on Trump. It was revenge. BUT, after seeing those tweets, Disney had no choice. This wasn't the ArenaNet firings, people have been fired for much less.

I'm angry entirely at Gunn. Why the strawberry float were those tweets still up on his account in 2018? They should have been deleted immediately after he got Guardians.


What do you mean they had no choice? Disney hired him AFTER these tweets were made, he’s apologised for this 6 YEARS ago. Should he have deleted these tweets? Sure but then you’ll have people saying ‘oh he’s trying to hide his past’.

There’s no such thing as second chances anymore in the social space. And you’re entirely angry at Gunn? Really? You’re being played if you think that’s the case. The right are playing the left against each other and this is just another small example of that.


Every time a Trump tweet is found contradicting something he said recently, do we all sit back and say "He's allowed to change his mind!!"? No, we mock him. When Roy Moore was accused of soliciting underage girls many years ago, did we say "Oh, that was ages ago he's probably changed!"? No.

So, when it's discovered that a left-wing director made paedophilic and incestual jokes, can we hold him to a different standard simply because we like him? No, he needs to face up to the same consequences. If he doesn't the whole system of accountability falls apart.

This was a victory for the alt-right, forcing a prominent left-wing director into disgrace. But they did it with his own words, accurately. Gunn should be strawberry floating incensed with himself.

Re: [MCU Thread] Ant-Man and the Wasp trailer p223

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:23 am
by Return_of_the_STAR
Having seen more of these tweets it makes me wonder if something happened to him as a child.

Re: [MCU Thread] Ant-Man and the Wasp trailer p223

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 9:28 am
by Moggy
Tafdolphin wrote:
Floex wrote:
Tafdolphin wrote:I'm very angry about this: it was a direct response from the alt-right to his constant hating on Trump. It was revenge. BUT, after seeing those tweets, Disney had no choice. This wasn't the ArenaNet firings, people have been fired for much less.

I'm angry entirely at Gunn. Why the strawberry float were those tweets still up on his account in 2018? They should have been deleted immediately after he got Guardians.


What do you mean they had no choice? Disney hired him AFTER these tweets were made, he’s apologised for this 6 YEARS ago. Should he have deleted these tweets? Sure but then you’ll have people saying ‘oh he’s trying to hide his past’.

There’s no such thing as second chances anymore in the social space. And you’re entirely angry at Gunn? Really? You’re being played if you think that’s the case. The right are playing the left against each other and this is just another small example of that.


Every time a Trump tweet is found contradicting something he said recently, do we all sit back and say "He's allowed to change his mind!!"? No, we mock him. When Roy Moore was accused of soliciting underage girls many years ago, did we say "Oh, that was ages ago he's probably changed!"? No.

So, when it's discovered that a left-wing director made paedophilic and incestual jokes, can we hold him to a different standard simply because we like him? No, he needs to face up to the same consequences. If he doesn't the whole system of accountability falls apart.

This was a victory for the alt-right, forcing a prominent left-wing director into disgrace. But they did it with his own words, accurately. Gunn should be strawberry floating incensed with himself.


The difference is Trump is still saying those things. Roy Moore (allegedly) committed a crime.

If Gunn is still saying those things then it’s fair enough to fire him. But these all appear to have been many years ago, should we never forgive and forget?

We are in very dangerous territory if people are defined by stupid gooseberry fool they said a decade ago.