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Re: Meta-discussion: what are our issues and how do we better structure solutions?

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:56 pm
by OrangeRKN
I think a lot of SONMers, quite fairly, saw it as a good point to move on from a community they had already outgrown or become less active with. The same happened with the transition from ONM to SONM itself. I think a lot of people are happy the community still lives on even if they are no longer active in it, as a kind of nice to know about legacy thing.

As I said before the gradual loss of members from a forum is inevitable for various reasons, so unless we can attract new members it will always be in a state of managed decline. That's not a poor reflection on anything or anyone, it's just the natural state of being.

Nun wrote:.


As someone who is into forum games and Mafia especially, do you have any suggestions as to how and where from we can attract new members through forum games?

Re: Meta-discussion: what are our issues and how do we better structure solutions?

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:03 pm
by Drumstick
Aside from one all of the SONM folks that made the transition have been welcome additions to the forum and it's a great shame that some of them appear have fallen away, but that's life innit. There's every chance they might come back later in time.

Re: Meta-discussion: what are our issues and how do we better structure solutions?

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:11 pm
by Karl_
Even our forum games are, to be brutally honest, slowing down a lot. Our first AYA?s had 90 players and for years you'd easily get 60 or more -- now you'd be running a forum-wide marketing campaign for weeks to get 30.

But that's OK. It's not "worse", it's just different. The way the player-base has changed encourages innovation, you have to make tighter experiences, or more interesting ones that can keep people's interest even though they're busier.

Re: Meta-discussion: what are our issues and how do we better structure solutions?

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:27 pm
by Minty14
I can't say I've ever really seen much politics talk outside of the dedicated threads, but it seems to be a big issue for some. Should it simply be banned outside of the relevant threads, or is that unmanageable?

Re: Meta-discussion: what are our issues and how do we better structure solutions?

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:08 pm
by Nun
Drumstick wrote:Aside from one all of the SONM folks that made the transition have been welcome additions to the forum and it's a great shame that some of them appear have fallen away, but that's life innit. There's every chance they might come back later in time.

Yeah definitely, and i'm not saying the the SONM membership dissapeared to criticize or claim it was anyones fault. I'm just saying what I see and pointing out that it's hard to integrate two communities in this way and had it been the other way around i'm sure that there would have been similar problems. ONM had Bronm, QQonm, Legion, Pseudo and all sorts of offsite chats knocking around with injokes and references that were alien to the casual forum users and were probably partially responsible for lowering forum activity as we all just kept in contact with those we got on with best elsewhere. It's hard to balance being a tightknit community and being welcoming to others but forum games and other community events could be useful as icebreakers to get people chatting and talking to eachother outside of political arguements.

I also do agree with what OR said, that with every major transition of ONM we lost more than a few members along the way and I know that I had sort of decided to tone down my online presence a lot to focus on the IRL stuff, which was definitely a good thing for me in the long run and i'm sure many others felt similarly. I have had a bit more time recently though so maybe I could run something but it'd really be competing with things like DMing my home D&D game which I think scratches the same itch that creating and running forum games used to for me.

Re: Meta-discussion: what are our issues and how do we better structure solutions?

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:27 pm
by Winckle
One thing I like about discourse is that each week by default members are sent a digest of the active threads. I feel like this would keep lurkers involved and maybe even prompt them to post in threads they might have missed.

Re: Meta-discussion: what are our issues and how do we better structure solutions?

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:55 pm
by Kezzer
I like this idea, I know a good few of us take breaks from time to time, so it would be nice to come back to a "heres what you missed" segment

Re: Meta-discussion: what are our issues and how do we better structure solutions?

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:01 pm
by Minty14
Winckle wrote:One thing I like about discourse is that each week by default members are sent a digest of the active threads. I feel like this would keep lurkers involved and maybe even prompt them to post in threads they might have missed.

You can specifically send emails to users who haven't logged in in X amount of time too.

Overall it looks like it could really help engagement. Things like browser notifications and live thread updates keep people on the site and coming back more. Then you have 3rd party sign ins which makes it easy to get new users - when I test Google sign in, I had an account up and running in less than 30 seconds any with very little input.

Re: Meta-discussion: what are our issues and how do we better structure solutions?

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:08 pm
by Green Gecko
That does all sound good. We had the idea for sending a regular e-mail out to everyone with some kind of digest but.. it would be a lot easier if that was automated based on top 10 replies/views etc