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Re: Metroid II Remake Announced for N3DS

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:50 pm
by Floex
Special Edition Announced

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Re: Metroid II Remake Announced for N3DS

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:52 pm
by Tineash
METROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOIIIDD!
metroid metroid metroid!

Re: Metroid II Remake Announced for N3DS

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:52 pm
by Green Gecko
Well they probably took advantage of that fact to gauge interest in their own game, as a lot of these things get cancelled before they are released, even when they're 100% complete. If someone, anyone is piggy backing on your creative but for some reason you're not sure about your own investments then by all means don't waste money on market research and teaser trailers and stuff, just let someone else do it. That's the price for unoriginal content in many forms, someone might sue you and that's how capitalism works, sadly.

It looks like Capcom did the same thing with the Resident Evil 2 demo someone made in Unreal.

I think it's OK with some things that don't get a lot (or any) love from the originators that fans make these things and they don't get shut down until the last minute, as then they are allowed to exist in some substantial form just not publicly so that the appetite for the genuine/priced article isn't eaten up when they launch. It's very, very hard to compete with free, especially when it's good! Not good news if you're already working on something as you're just wasting money. I think that shows quite a lot of respect for fans that it was allowed to be finished.

I think I might genuinely go for that special edition because the music is pretty fantastic. Especially Prime.

Re: Metroid II Remake Announced for N3DS

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:19 pm
by The Watching Artist
Wonder just how long this has been in development for. Even though its a remake its surely had to be built from scratch as its such an old game.

Re: Metroid II Remake Announced for N3DS

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:22 pm
by CitizenErased
chalkitdown wrote:
HSH28 wrote:Actually glad its on 3DS too.


Why?


Because HSH.

Re: Metroid II Remake Announced for N3DS

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 11:25 pm
by jawafour
The Metroid amiibo double-pack looks fantastic!

Spoilored for massive.
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Re: Metroid II Remake Announced for N3DS

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:04 am
by Green Gecko
I really like the art style they've gone for there on the metroid. It's reminiscent of the Metroid Prime concept art.

Re: Metroid II Remake Announced for N3DS

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 10:25 am
by Rax
Ironhide wrote:I'm aware Nintendo were well within their rights to take legal action but it just seems like they deliberately let the AM2R guy(s) get so far with the project just so they could prove a point.

Or they let them release it so people could actually play it before enforcing their IP claim. Its not that they are within their rights to take action, they have to take action, if they choose not to defend their IP then it can open the door to anyone making a Metroid game for any platform without Nintendo being involved at all.

Re: Metroid II Remake Announced for N3DS

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:29 pm
by Jazzem
I'm ecstatic we're finally getting a sidescrolling Metroid again, but I am gutted it is through low res 3DS visuals in 30fps...I'll likely still get it, but I'm doubtful I'll enjoy it as much as AM2R, given how much better that looked + performed. Will be interesting to compare the design of the two, both seem pretty daring in trying new things with the original game.

If nothing else, Metroidvanias are great on dual screens for obvious reasons, so at least it has that benefit on 3DS.

Re: Metroid II Remake Announced for N3DS

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:38 pm
by Hypes
Cheeky Devlin wrote:
Hyperion wrote:THE strawberry float IS THIS. I'VE JUST STOPPED IN A SERVICE STATION AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON??!!!

My brother in Metroid-ly arms. Today is a happy day Hypes.

Remake of Metroid II and Metroid Prime 4. :wub: :wub: :wub:


:toot: :toot: :toot:


Wasn't too impressed with the look of Nu-II in the video but it looks better being played on Treehouse, would have preferred a fully flat 2D new game, but this will do!
Also Prime 4 :datass: Probably not till 2020 though :lol:

Re: Metroid II Remake Announced for N3DS

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:05 pm
by dmin
jawafour wrote:The Metroid amiibo double-pack looks fantastic!

Spoilored for massive.
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More Metroid, yayyyy!

That amiibo is amaze. I want it!

Re: Metroid II Remake Announced for N3DS

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:12 pm
by The Watching Artist
The Metroid amiibo is squishy.


Re: Metroid II Remake Announced for N3DS

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:53 pm
by That
jawafour wrote:The Metroid amiibo double-pack looks fantastic!

Spoilored for massive.
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I agree, some Amiibos look a bit basic to my eye but those Amiibos look genuinely nice. I love the metroid in particular.

Re: Metroid II Remake Announced for N3DS

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:08 pm
by Dig Dug
Jazzem wrote:I'm ecstatic we're finally getting a sidescrolling Metroid again, but I am gutted it is through low res 3DS visuals in 30fps...

Christ really? I think a lot of designers don't really understand why that kind of thing is important some times. Super Metroid ran at 60 FPS and to this day still remains the most emergent Metroid game due to the degree of control given to the player.

Samus has so many things in that game that they never used again in later metroid games, the sprint button being an obvious one. Nintendo don't know what to do with metroid games so they just attempt to refine the game play each time but every time they do that with a 3rd person metroid game they lose something from Super. Fusion was linear and stripped down for a handheld. Zero Mission was sleeker but again also stripped down slightly for the GBA, Other M is what it was. Compared to the effort gone into some other Nintendo games Metroid seems almost creatively bankrupted in its design by comparison.

When I look at this I just see them doing the same thing again. They are clearly trying to give players more "control" with the new aiming tools but it is done so at the expense of the flow, same with these special attacks. It looks more modern and sleek sure but I'm going to make the argument now that even with all these new things the combat will be no more emergent than super metroid (in fact considering all the things you can do in super it might actually be less emergent).

Re: Metroid II Remake Announced for N3DS

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:10 pm
by Mafro
Squishy metroid :3

Re: Metroid II Remake Announced for N3DS

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:20 pm
by Jazzem
Dig Dug wrote:
Jazzem wrote:I'm ecstatic we're finally getting a sidescrolling Metroid again, but I am gutted it is through low res 3DS visuals in 30fps...

Christ really? I think a lot of designers don't really understand why that kind of thing is important some times. Super Metroid ran at 60 FPS and to this day still remains the most emergent Metroid game due to the degree of control given to the player.


Aye, and it's frustrating seeing the pushback against folks pointing this out, lots of accusations of entitlement and "why are you complaining, we're getting a new Metroid!"...as if we shouldn't critique something we have interest in, and as though it's unreasonable to expect a level of fluidity seen throughout the series. Hell, I'm pretty sure Federation Force is the only non-60fps entry.

To put that another way...it's running at half the frame rate of the Game Boy original :/

Re: Metroid II Remake Announced for N3DS

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:34 pm
by Dig Dug
That kind of thing is happening in fighting games at the moment as well actually. People are pointing out how gooseberry fool Marvel Vs Capcom Infinite looks but are getting shouted down by people saying the critics are "killing the fighting game community" because apparently if a company gives you a less than stellar product you should buy it anyway so the series doesn't "die" which is strawberry floating dumb because if you condone that then the games might as well not be made in the first place.

For this reason I'm fine with Nintendo not making new F-Zero games if they, by their own admission, have no where to go with it following GX.

Re: Metroid II Remake Announced for N3DS

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:37 pm
by Jazzem
Dig Dug wrote:That kind of thing is happening in fighting games at the moment as well actually. People are pointing out how gooseberry fool Marvel Vs Capcom Infinite looks but are getting shouted down by people saying the critics are "killing the fighting game community" because apparently if a company gives you a less than stellar product you should buy it anyway so the series doesn't "die" which is strawberry floating dumb because if you condone that then the games might as well not be made in the first place.


Yup, exactly. You can be happy a dev is making a game in a series you like while also keeping the capacity for critique intact.

Re: Metroid II Remake Announced for N3DS

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:57 pm
by Mafro
Floex wrote:Special Edition Announced

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Sounds like we're getting good one from NoE

While supplies last, fans will also be able to purchase a special edition of Metroid: Samus Returns which includes a physical version of the game, a download code for the original Game Boy game Metroid II: Return of Samus to be redeemed in Nintendo eShop, a SteelBook®, a sound-selection CD featuring 25 tracks from across the Metroid franchise, a gold “S” pin badge, a Morph Ball 3D keyring and a 40-page artbook.*

https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Games/Ninten ... 34232.html

Aye that's getting bought.

Re: Metroid II Remake Announced for N3DS

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:22 pm
by Pedz
Mafro wrote:
Floex wrote:Special Edition Announced

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Sounds like we're getting good one from NoE

While supplies last, fans will also be able to purchase a special edition of Metroid: Samus Returns which includes a physical version of the game, a download code for the original Game Boy game Metroid II: Return of Samus to be redeemed in Nintendo eShop, a SteelBook®, a sound-selection CD featuring 25 tracks from across the Metroid franchise, a gold “S” pin badge, a Morph Ball 3D keyring and a 40-page artbook.*

https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Games/Ninten ... 34232.html

Aye that's getting bought.


Know when pre-orders are going up?