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PostRe: Microsoft buy Minecraft - CONFIRMED
by Squinty » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:37 pm

Not sure if this will be a good long term investment. We'll see.

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PostRe: Microsoft buy Minecraft - CONFIRMED
by NickSCFC » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:37 pm

Which industry analysts are these?

And what does SDF have to do with any of this? Who are the fanboys other than me?

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PostRe: Microsoft buy Minecraft - CONFIRMED
by Photek » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:39 pm

:lol:

Read any article on the buyout.

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PostRe: Microsoft buy Minecraft - CONFIRMED
by NickSCFC » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:40 pm

The article by Xbox.com?

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PostRe: Microsoft buy Minecraft - CONFIRMED
by Garth » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:47 pm

[iup=3565438]Xeno[/iup] wrote:So, what happens to Minecon?


Still happening:
We’re excited to confirm that MINECON will continue next year. We’ll look to create even more ways for the vibrant community of YouTuber’s, innovators, bloggers and players to connect with each other – both in person and online. We will have much more to share in the coming months.

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PostRe: Microsoft buy Minecraft - CONFIRMED
by PsychicSykes » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:48 pm

[iup=3565449]Photek[/iup] wrote:Amazing that industry analysts see this as a coup for Microsoft but the SDF lads simply ignore it completely using their obvious intellect and prowess in how much veg to meat their mother allows ratio wise to call the deal bad and not only that but Microsoft are strawberry floated and insane.

There are a lot of people who have reservations about this deal and how Microsoft expects to make profit off such a huge amount being spent. It's definitely worth questioning how they're going to do this and if such a thing is even possible in the short-time frame being suggested. Everyone seems to have an opinion on this regardless of which consoles they own, so let's not turn this into a thread about picking sides.

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PostRe: Microsoft buy Minecraft - CONFIRMED
by Venom » Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:10 pm

[iup=3565457]SquintyMcSquint[/iup] wrote:Not sure if this will be a good long term investment. We'll see.


There's a lot of uncertainties for a tech company like Microsoft. They have Office and they have Windows. But longterm hardware success for Windows Phone, Surface and even Xbox is not guaranteed. At first $2Billion does seem an absurdly high amount for this one game. But it is a game that has mass market appeal and might go on to have a timeless appeal (if developed right) and even if that means it takes MS 20 years to make a profit it is still worth it because it guarantees Microsoft a relationship with gamers who they market their other products to and guarantees them a profit stream. Minecraft has a big YouTube industry built around it and the creepers and Enderstone mythology gives it legs. It's a sure thing. Providing another company doesn't make a better clone for much cheaper and it goes the way of MySpace.

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PostRe: Microsoft buy Minecraft - CONFIRMED
by bear » Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:16 pm

[iup=3565468]PsychicSykes[/iup] wrote:
[iup=3565449]Photek[/iup] wrote:Amazing that industry analysts see this as a coup for Microsoft but the SDF lads simply ignore it completely using their obvious intellect and prowess in how much veg to meat their mother allows ratio wise to call the deal bad and not only that but Microsoft are strawberry floated and insane.

There are a lot of people who have reservations about this deal and how Microsoft expects to make profit off such a huge amount being spent. It's definitely worth questioning how they're going to do this and if such a thing is even possible in the short-time frame being suggested. Everyone seems to have an opinion on this regardless of which consoles they own, so let's not turn this into a thread about picking sides.

Look at the link I posted. Microsoft aren't saying they'll make the money back by June 2015, they're saying buying Mojang willl deliver a better return than leaving the $2.5 billion in the bank.

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PostRe: Microsoft buy Minecraft - CONFIRMED
by Irene Demova » Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:16 pm

Photek there, using the word "coup" to describe a 2.5 billion investment

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PostRe: Microsoft by Minecraft - CONFIRMED
by Rubix » Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:18 pm

[iup=3565089]suzzopher[/iup] wrote:

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PostRe: Microsoft buy Minecraft - CONFIRMED
by Rubix » Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:19 pm

Remember when Microsoft bought Rare?

Just saying :shifty:

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PostRe: Microsoft buy Minecraft - CONFIRMED
by NickSCFC » Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:27 pm

CEO Kaz Hirai wrote:I hope Microsoft dosen’t waste Mojang’s talent, or ruin what makes them special. It can happen, but it’s pretty Rare.


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PostRe: Microsoft buy Minecraft - CONFIRMED
by PsychicSykes » Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:04 pm

[iup=3565498]bear[/iup] wrote:Look at the link I posted. Microsoft aren't saying they'll make the money back by June 2015, they're saying buying Mojang willl deliver a better return than leaving the $2.5 billion in the bank.

My apologies bear, I must have missed it. That makes more sense.

(Obligatory eww polygon though)

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PostRe: Microsoft buy Minecraft - CONFIRMED
by Wiggy G32 » Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:31 pm

I'm not sure nick what you mean by using it for more universal apps? That's not an issue currently?? WP isn't setting the world on fire but its chugging along pretty fine especially.outside the usa so I cant see how 2 billion would help....

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PostRe: Microsoft buy Minecraft - CONFIRMED
by Photek » Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:57 am

[iup=3565468]PsychicSykes[/iup] wrote:
[iup=3565449]Photek[/iup] wrote:Amazing that industry analysts see this as a coup for Microsoft but the SDF lads simply ignore it completely using their obvious intellect and prowess in how much veg to meat their mother allows ratio wise to call the deal bad and not only that but Microsoft are strawberry floated and insane.

There are a lot of people who have reservations about this deal and how Microsoft expects to make profit off such a huge amount being spent. It's definitely worth questioning how they're going to do this and if such a thing is even possible in the short-time frame being suggested. Everyone seems to have an opinion on this regardless of which consoles they own, so let's not turn this into a thread about picking sides.

I was very specific in my post. Simply search for the posters who said MS are insane and are strawberry floated. I'm not turning anything into picking sides. Just that the usual suspects are quick to judge one way.

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PostMicrosoft buy Minecraft - CONFIRMED
by Parksey » Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:28 am

Isn't it rather obvious though, that a deal like this could be pre-judged as good or bad depending on your viewpoint? We don't really have any idea how it will turn out just yet (few would have predicted Rare's decline, for example) so it is all just surmising. It doesn't need to be taken as an argument against Microsoft, more that some don't particularly like this deal.

It is a lot of money, and some don't think they will are a return. Likewise, some don't like the idea of a powerful independent developer (and gaming phenomenon) being bought out by a billion dollar corporation.

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PostRe: Microsoft buy Minecraft - CONFIRMED
by PsychicSykes » Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:38 am

[iup=3565554]Photek[/iup] wrote:
[iup=3565468]PsychicSykes[/iup] wrote:
[iup=3565449]Photek[/iup] wrote:Amazing that industry analysts see this as a coup for Microsoft but the SDF lads simply ignore it completely using their obvious intellect and prowess in how much veg to meat their mother allows ratio wise to call the deal bad and not only that but Microsoft are strawberry floated and insane.

There are a lot of people who have reservations about this deal and how Microsoft expects to make profit off such a huge amount being spent. It's definitely worth questioning how they're going to do this and if such a thing is even possible in the short-time frame being suggested. Everyone seems to have an opinion on this regardless of which consoles they own, so let's not turn this into a thread about picking sides.

I was very specific in my post. Simply search for the posters who said MS are insane and are strawberry floated. I'm not turning anything into picking sides. Just that the usual suspects are quick to judge one way.

Delusi's reference to the company being "insane" was in reply to the idea that MS could recoup their outlay by Summer 2015 which is fair comment. As bear has shown, this was information poorly translated and not really an issue. Nicks about MS being "strawberry floated" was in relation to what he thought would happen to them if they don't "make mobile work for them," which was more a comment on what he thought the money should've been spent on.

While both of them have clearly shown which side their bread is buttered previously, I don't think eithers comments were drawn from the well of fanboyism on this occasion. A lot of people have had reservations about this whole deal, so I don't think it's a issue.

Back on-topic, I'm going to maintain my usual stance of caution as I think is inevitably best when a big franchise and studio gets taken over. It'll be interesting to see how MS leverage the Minecraft brand for further profit and in particular what sort of additions they add to the inevitable sequel. I think they'd have been better spending the money on setting up some new studios rather than buying something that already exists in this fashion, but it is what it is.

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PostRe: Microsoft buy Minecraft - CONFIRMED
by satriales » Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:57 am

I really don't understand this deal at all.

1. Minecraft is about five years old.
I used to know lots of people that played it. When I first started my job almost three years ago they had a Minecraft server but it never gets used now. The only person I know who still plays is a 7 yr old and even he has moved on to GTA5 :slol:
Maybe if this deal had happened two years ago then I could see where MS saw value, but how can they squeeze an extra $2.5 billion from this game which everyone has already bought and played?

2. Mojang is Minecraft, and Minecraft is Notch.
Mojang are currently a one-game company, and that one game was solely created by Notch who will be leaving once this deal is done. They are basically just buying Minecraft and they don't get any of the talent that created it.

3. Why sequel?
A huge part of the success of Minecraft was it's uniqueness. The purposefully pixelated 3d world. The never-ending, procedurally generated environment that actually created some interesting shapes. The day-night cycle which forced you to mine/build during the daytime and then hide/defend at night. The UI that didn't spell out everything you can do and instead encouraged experimentation with combining items.
All of these things were created by one man and then on top of that the modding community has added everything else you can think of.
The success of Minecraft first caught everyone by surprise because the graphics were 'poor' and people were still buying it. This is not a game where graphics are important and so I can't see how the inevitable sequel will be able to improve over the original.

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PostRe: Microsoft buy Minecraft - CONFIRMED
by Monkey Man » Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:25 am

[iup=3565561]satriales[/iup] wrote:
Maybe if this deal had happened two years ago then I could see where MS saw value, but how can they squeeze an extra $2.5 billion from this game which everyone has already bought and played?


Everyone has already brought it?

August US Software 2014:

1. Madden NFL 15 (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)
2. Diablo III: Reaper of Souls (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3, PC)
3. Minecraft (360, PS3)

Last week in the UK:

01 (NE) PS4 DESTINY (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
02 (NE) XBO DESTINY (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
03 (NE) 360 DESTINY (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
04 (NE) PS3 DESTINY (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
05 (01) PC THE SIMS 4 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
06 (02) PS4 THE LAST OF US: REMASTERED (SONY COMPUTER ENT.)
07 (03) 360 MINECRAFT: XBOX 360 EDITION (MICROSOFT)
08 (06) PS4 WATCH DOGS (UBISOFT)
09 (04) PS3 MINECRAFT: PLAYSTATION 3 EDITION (SONY COMPUTER ENT.)

This is 2 years after the 360 release and 10 months after the PS3 release. PSN crashed only a couple of weeks ago when the PS4 version released - http://www.gamespot.com/articles/psn-is ... 0-6422112/

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PostRe: Microsoft buy Minecraft - CONFIRMED
by TheTurnipKing » Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:39 am

[iup=3565561]satriales[/iup] wrote:I really don't understand this deal at all.

1. Minecraft is about five years old.
I used to know lots of people that played it. When I first started my job almost three years ago they had a Minecraft server but it never gets used now. The only person I know who still plays is a 7 yr old and even he has moved on to GTA5 :slol:
Maybe if this deal had happened two years ago then I could see where MS saw value, but how can they squeeze an extra $2.5 billion from this game which everyone has already bought and played?

My nephew still sits and plays Minecraft regularly on PC, with friends from his school on various servers.

There's a gooseberry fool tonne of improvements that could be made to Minecraft. The iteration cycle for updates is painfully long. The resources that could be brought to bear mean that Minecraft has barely even scratched the surface.

Minecraft is basically Microsoft's Animal Crossing, or you could think of it as a Playstation Home that actually works.

I'll tell you what. It has way more potential left than Gears of War.


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