MMAYAV 2 Spectator Thread- Identities in OP

[Captain Kinopio]

That's kinda bullshit. I get that they would know he refused to go in but to allow the Humans to use it and not the Vampires is daft. It feels like there was no way for the Vampires to win this, without getting very lucky.

[Oblomov Boblomov]

That's kinda bullshit. I get that they would know he refused to go in but to allow the Humans to use it and not the Vampires is daft. It feels like there was no way for the Vampires to win this, without getting very lucky.

I think it ended up being essentially 'whoever gets control of the pentagram wins'. In our PM group I said something to the effect of 'the Vamps are going to be raging about this thing' and then a minute later it was destroyed — we all assumed Mori had godkilled it, realising it was far too powerful.

[Oblomov Boblomov]

Francis Morgan's profile cracks me up every time .

[Qikz]

That's kinda bullshit. I get that they would know he refused to go in but to allow the Humans to use it and not the Vampires is daft. It feels like there was no way for the Vampires to win this, without getting very lucky.

I think it ended up being essentially 'whoever gets control of the pentagram wins'. In our PM group I said something to the effect of 'the Vamps are going to be raging about this thing' and then a minute later it was destroyed — we all assumed Mori had godkilled it, realising it was far too powerful.

The weird thing is the vampires didn't even try. I guess the timing of everything meant Zadok was pretty cemented in as a confirmed person due to the way everything went so it would've been difficult, but I don't really remember any of them doing too much to try and sway anything in the thread.

[sawyerpip]

The vampires best chance might have been if Buck/Ob got too pissed up the night of the pentagram to pass out the seer results in time

[Qikz]

Well looks like the game is over.

I'm just sad that Eva will get the win and essentially not most of the humans who actually helped get them to that point. I feel like the game might be more interesting from a villager perspective if there was victory in death. I think people would be more likely to be involved in the game and trying to help, because it feels like if you're overly helpful you're 100% going to die so some people just sit back and do nothing all game hoping to survive to the end.

[Sprouty]

Well looks like the game is over.

I'm just sad that Eva will get the win and essentially not most of the humans who actually helped get them to that point. I feel like the game might be more interesting from a villager perspective if there was victory in death. I think people would be more likely to be involved in the game and trying to help, because it feels like if you're overly helpful you're 100% going to die so some people just sit back and do nothing all game hoping to survive to the end.

It's another reason why the village should aim for inactives at the start of the game. Not only are they possibly vampires in hiding, but if they are not, you're killing off people who are adding very little to the game.

Can I put myself forward as Mayor of the underworld and propose myself for resurrection?

[Qikz]

Well looks like the game is over.

I'm just sad that Eva will get the win and essentially not most of the humans who actually helped get them to that point. I feel like the game might be more interesting from a villager perspective if there was victory in death. I think people would be more likely to be involved in the game and trying to help, because it feels like if you're overly helpful you're 100% going to die so some people just sit back and do nothing all game hoping to survive to the end.

It's another reason why the village should aim for inactives at the start of the game. Not only are they possibly vampires in hiding, but if they are not, you're killing off people who are adding very little to the game.

Can I put myself forward as Mayor of the underworld and propose myself for resurrection?

My big point I kept making this time was that the inactives are literally not helping the game at all, what could've happened for instance is we get to this stage now and rather than 1 vampire left, say there's 3 vampires and 7 humans. All it takes is for 4 of those humans to be inactive and the game becomes unwinnable. What also keeps happening is with really dumb hunches on the first few days we always end up killing experienced village players who are active and when they flip town we just keep ending up in a situation where there's nobody left to rally the town at all and we end up back at the point I was making.

It helped this time that the big active players didn't get immediately killed off because nobody knew who they were. I can't imagine RKN surviving nearly as long if he wasn't on an alt account for instance.

[Herdanos]

I feel like the game might be more interesting from a villager perspective if there was victory in death.

I mean, if you're a villager, this is the way to play anyway, no? It's not like anyone is keeping score. I've technically 'lost' most games where my side has won. If every village player looked out solely for their own interests the village would never win.

[Qikz]

I feel like the game might be more interesting from a villager perspective if there was victory in death.

I mean, if you're a villager, this is the way to play anyway, no? It's not like anyone is keeping score. I've technically 'lost' most games where my side has won. If every village player looked out solely for their own interests the village would never win.

I'm almost certain there's some players who do look at it like that.

Look at Lucy, a vigilante who sat for 4-5 days on information on there being a confirmed vampire ready to shoot and not shooting at all. When asked about her role to clarify she said that it wasn't helpful for her to share that information with the thread and it lead to the thread lynching them anyway after they wasted so much time looking out for no.1. Then there's Eva who... probably shouldn't have bothered signing up at all.

[DarkRula]

Yeah, no matter if you personally have lost, you've still been aiding in a win for your team. But if you've done what Eva's done, and just skirted along with a post a day, such a victory is hollow. Not that there's going to be one for the town.

[OrangeRKN]

I like having no victory in death, it gives the game a bit more uncertainty and space for deception as power roles especially have to balance helping the town with trying to survive as bigger targets, and it means you should try and game the mafia a little to stay alive like deliberately throwing some heat on people you actually think are innocent - but not enough to distract from winning. It just makes it more nuanced. Plus it discourages suicidal plays. From the mafia side it leaves open the possibility of infighting as sacrificing a member should be against their own wishes at least as they want to survive.

[Oblomov Boblomov]

The vampires best chance might have been if Buck/Ob got too pissed up the night of the pentagram to pass out the seer results in time

The sheer panic that bolted through me when that happened I can't believe what a close call that was.

Yeah, no matter if you personally have lost, you've still been aiding in a win for your team. But if you've done what Eva's done, and just skirted along with a post a day, such a victory is hollow. Not that there's going to be one for the town.

Yeah this. If there was a cash prize/trophy for surviving then I'd get it but if people are prioritising 'no victory in death' as the overriding influence on how they play the game then they need to get a grip . Take the game seriously by all means (we need people to otherwise it wouldn't be fun) but it's performances that are remembered, not imaginary notches on a bedpost.

[That's not a growth]

I feel like the game might be more interesting from a villager perspective if there was victory in death.

I mean, if you're a villager, this is the way to play anyway, no? It's not like anyone is keeping score. I've technically 'lost' most games where my side has won. If every village player looked out solely for their own interests the village would never win.

I'm almost certain there's some players who do look at it like that.

Look at Lucy, a vigilante who sat for 4-5 days on information on there being a confirmed vampire ready to shoot and not shooting at all. When asked about her role to clarify she said that it wasn't helpful for her to share that information with the thread and it lead to the thread lynching them anyway after they wasted so much time looking out for no.1. Then there's Eva who... probably shouldn't have bothered signing up at all.

Well I feel attached.

I was in no rush to shoot as my bullet was protecting myself.
I wasn't caught up with the thread, so not going to take 1 persons word on who I should shoot. From my perspective you were the only one pushing for this, so I was doubting your motivation. My request to talk as a group about it seemed to gain no traction, and I saw no reason to rush.
I still see no reason to reveal more about my role then I did, it would only make me more vulnerable - I only had 1 bullet and if people knew that they would know I was helpless after my first shot. Keeping it vague meant it wasn't guaranteed it was bullets / how many uses I had.

[Vermilion]

Hello all, Randolph Carter reporting for duty.

This has been an absolute blast (especially as it's the first proper role i've had in one of these things), i knew the game was up though the moment i was seered, so i decided to turn it up to 11 and create as much noise, chaos, and confusion as possible. I was also amazed at how i managed to survive for as long as i did, especially as along the way, me and the alpha took down Zadok, Buck, Will, and Jack (some of the most prolific posters). Killing Buck in particular was probably the most fun i've had, as from the moment he grassed me up, he was top of my list (only the little gimp ended up as mayor which delayed the plan, otherwise Zadok would have lived for another day).

The confusion surrounding me surviving a vigi attack was that it happened when Nyrl/Katy teamed up with us and protected us for one night against any attacks.

The notes being pinned to the bodies also was actually my thing, as i was sending a lot of the kill PM's too (i'm glad you spotted the Red Dwarf reference Jen).

Thanks to Mori/The Count for taking the time to run this game, it's been great.

[Oblomov Boblomov]

Welcome to heaven, Randy Randolph! There's no escape from me here .

[Drumstick]

Vermi, I can't believe you killed me.

[Vermilion]

Vermi, I can't believe you killed me.

I have no regrets, you were spending too much time in the panic room.



Also, what does one have to do to become mayor? I never got any votes as a villager in previous games, and i certainly didn't get any as a vamp.

[Qikz]

Vermi, I can't believe you killed me.

I have no regrets, you were spending too much time in the panic room.



Also, what does one have to do to become mayor? I never got any votes as a villager in previous games, and i certainly didn't get any as a vamp.

Or not as we found out.

[Drumstick]