Movie News/Discussion Thread 2 (Back to back M:I movies from McQuarrie)

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by Rex Kramer » Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:19 am

Better than the actual movie. In fact better than 50% of all Predator movies (I actually quite like Predator 2).

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by Rex Kramer » Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:25 am



Well, that's a bit odd. Big Mo with a machine gun?

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by Albear » Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:25 am

RE: Predator - God that last one was so gooseberry fool. Makes me angry just thinking about it.

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RE Hellboy Trailer - Tons of spoilers. Also feels like another "Oh hey Deadpool did well, let's do that"

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by Tafdolphin » Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:32 am

That is an odd trailer. I like the vibe, didn't know it was so London based, and I love Neil Marshall's other stuff, but Hellboy himself looks like a step back from the perfection that was Ron Perlman.

I do like that they're making a film of the comics and not doing a reboot of the previous films though. No Abe, or Liz Sherman or cats. Looks legit different.

Also, who knew Big Mo doesn't age?

Albear wrote:RE Hellboy Trailer - Tons of spoilers. Also feels like another "Oh hey Deadpool did well, let's do that"


I love the fact these days that if trailer = action film with funnies it's immediately a Deadpool/GoTG ripoff. As if they were the first action films that had jokes.

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by fry87 » Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:38 am

Saw Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse the other day and have to say that despite the universal praise it's been receiving I left pretty surprised at just how good it was. The visual style is very cool (reminded me of the Telltale games) and the whole thing is really well done and presented. I'd anticipated some cool action sequences and humour, but it had more than that and told a really interesting origin story with some well rounded and realised characters. All in all I loved it and really hope it enjoys the commercial success it deserves in order to get a sequel, as it's quite possibly the best Spiderman movie I've seen.

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by Rapidly-Greying » Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:41 am

It looks more like Patrick Wilson in that sonic poster to me.

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by Return_of_the_STAR » Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:56 pm



Doesn't look too bad. Popcorn flick/10

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by Preezy » Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:19 pm

MAKE SOMETHING NEW FFS STOP REMAKING EVERYTHING YOU HACK strawberry floats

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by JediDragon05 » Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:15 pm

Not feeling MIB, think it wa that shite yardie music.

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by Moggy » Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:33 pm

Preezy wrote:MAKE SOMETHING NEW FFS STOP REMAKING EVERYTHING YOU HACK strawberry floats


It doesn’t look great but I don’t think it’s a remake, looks like a sequel to me.

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by PatSharpsMullet » Thu Dec 20, 2018 7:17 pm

Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:
Preezy wrote:MAKE SOMETHING NEW FFS STOP REMAKING EVERYTHING YOU HACK strawberry floats


It doesn’t look great but I don’t think it’s a remake, looks like a sequel to me.

It is a sequel/spin-off. This one is set in London though as opposed to New York.

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by Yubel » Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:39 pm

Hellboy is looking better than MIB: International to my eye.

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If there's a certain amount of things you can do to enhance a concept, add to or tell a great story using the iconography (preferably in interesting ways) of something like MIB, then I say go for it. Most times it does boil down to a glossier retread with nowhere in mind to lead the franchise, but brand recognition is a powerful tool - maybe the reason why we may think the number of original movies is so small, because they get buried under the weight of nostalgia.

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by Floex » Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:12 am

Hot take, MiB was never good.

Cracking song though

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by Preezy » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:33 pm

I see that Bryan Cranston has been taking flak for acting again, bloody actors and their acting :roll:

BBC News wrote:Bryan Cranston has defended playing a disabled character in his latest film, saying his casting as a man with quadriplegia was "a business decision."

In The Upside, the US actor plays a wheelchair-using billionaire who hires a former criminal, played by comedian Kevin Hart, to be his live-in carer.

"As actors we're asked to play other people," said the Breaking Bad star.

Cranston said the subject was "worthy for debate" and there should be "more opportunities" for disabled actors.

Yet he maintained he was entitled to play characters whose attributes and abilities differed from his own.

"If I, as a straight, older person, and I'm wealthy, I'm very fortunate, does that mean I can't play a person who is not wealthy, does that mean I can't play a homosexual?" he mused.

"I don't know, where does the restriction apply, where is the line for that?" he told the Press Association.

Jake Gyllenhaal and Dwayne Johnson are among others who have faced criticism for playing disabled characters.

Cranston says it's worthy for debate, so what do you all think of this issue?

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by Moggy » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:43 pm

Olivia Coleman just won a Golden Globe for playing a Queen, but as far as I know she has no connection to the Royal Family at all.

Why didn’t they let Princess Eugenie take the role instead of giving it to the woman from Peep Show? :x

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by PatSharpsMullet » Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:14 pm

I was bitterly disappinted when Bryan Cranston was given the role of Zordan in Power Rangers, because as far as I'm aware, he is not from another planet, and he has never been trapped in a time warp by an evil witch. :x

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by Rex Kramer » Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:23 pm

I, for one, was disappointed that Tom Cruise wasn't permanently paralysed from the chest down during the making of Born on the fourth of July.

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by DML » Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:32 pm

I can see where people are coming from but its not Bryan Cranston's fault for taking the part. Its Hollywood's fault for not being diverse enough in their casting, something they are rightly being called out on.

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by Moggy » Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:16 pm

To be more serious, I agree that Hollywood has a terrible problem with representation. Scarlett Johansson is rather famous for it. ;)

But I don’t think that somebody has to actually have every characteristic of the person they are playing. Does a gay character have to be played by a gay person? Does a disabled person have to be played by a disabled person? I think not, but at the same time with gay and disabled people being so under represented in the major roles, I can see why people would be pissed off that the straight able bodied person gets the role yet again.

Hollywood is a business though and they will cast the names that they think will result in them making money. The problem for severely disabled actors of course is that they cannot get the “normal” roles that would enable them to build up the profile to get the more high profile roles.

Gay people have it slightly easier as they can play straight in other roles to build up their profiles. It is still very rare (if ever!) that you see an out gay man or woman playing the star roles.

That’s all a long winded way of saying “Of course Cranston can play a disabled guy, but it’s a damn shame that he needs to just because Hollywood ignores genuinely disabled people”.

Fake edit: As an aside, why am I unable to type “disabled”? Every single time I wrote it in that post I wrote “disable”. :x

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by Tafdolphin » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:43 pm

Moggy wrote:To be more serious, I agree that Hollywood has a terrible problem with representation. Scarlett Johansson is rather famous for it. ;)

But I don’t think that somebody has to actually have every characteristic of the person they are playing. Does a gay character have to be played by a gay person? Does a disabled person have to be played by a disabled person? I think not, but at the same time with gay and disabled people being so under represented in the major roles, I can see why people would be pissed off that the straight able bodied person gets the role yet again.

Hollywood is a business though and they will cast the names that they think will result in them making money. The problem for severely disabled actors of course is that they cannot get the “normal” roles that would enable them to build up the profile to get the more high profile roles.

Gay people have it slightly easier as they can play straight in other roles to build up their profiles. It is still very rare (if ever!) that you see an out gay man or woman playing the star roles.

That’s all a long winded way of saying “Of course Cranston can play a disabled guy, but it’s a damn shame that he needs to just because Hollywood ignores genuinely disabled people”.

Fake edit: As an aside, why am I unable to type “disabled”? Every single time I wrote it in that post I wrote “disable”. :x


Upvote, or "like" or whatever. This is my point of view, although I probably have a harder line view of white folks being cast in roles whose identity is intrinsically tied to a certain race (Skarjo being a perfect example, and the debacle around the original casting of Daniel Day Kim's role in the new Hellboy).

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