Movie News/Discussion Thread 2

[Corazon de Leon]

FWIW I can't stand Timothee Chalamet, I've seen him in Lady Bird and Call Me By Your Name. Something about him just fundamentally irks me. Nothing to do with his performances, he's a good enough actor to carry a film like this.

I haven't actually read Dune, but am aware of its significance to the genre so I'm prepared for what may at first look like tropes of the genre in the story. I think the tone of the film looks good though, very much in line with what Villeneuve did with Blade Runner, and I'm looking forward to seeing the final product.

[Preezy]

Well yes this might help, but I've yet to come across him as far as I know. Well that's not technically true I think he was in Interstellar but I have zero recollection of his role in that. Any particular recommendations?

He was the younger son of the family in Interstellar.

I loved his performance in The King, which is on Netflix.

[Tafdolphin]

He was in Interstellar about 2 minutes as the younger version of the son. I'd forgotten he was in it too. Call Me By Your Name is an incredible film, and is a essentially a two man piece with him and Armie Hammer. On this performance alone he became something of a phenomenom. The King is flawed but his performance is excellent. Last year's version of Little Women is excellent too, although he's not a main character.

I have a few reservations about the film, but he's deffo not one of them.

FWIW I can't stand Timothee Chalamet, I've seen him in Lady Bird and Call Me By Your Name. Something about him just fundamentally irks me. Nothing to do with his performances, he's a good enough actor to carry a film like this.

I haven't actually read Dune, but am aware of its significance to the genre so I'm prepared for what may at first look like tropes of the genre in the story. I think the tone of the film looks good though, very much in line with what Villeneuve did with Blade Runner, and I'm looking forward to seeing the final product.

I think *this* is what worries me. Villeneuve has very much developed a house style: grey, cool colours and a gritty sort of realism. It worked excellently in Arrival and Blade Runner but Dune is supposed to be almost high-fantasy sci-fi, with terms like Gom Jabbar, Kwisatz Haderach, Bene Gesserit and Muad'dib banded around all over the place. The decision to ground this version in that same grittiness is...a bit jarring. Imagine if Peter Jackson had made Lord of the Rings look like Sicario.

[Jenuall]

I'll definitely check out some of his performances then, starting with The King as that's on Netflix

[Zilnad]

So is Dune to sci-fi what LotR is to fantasy? I have the book on Kindle but haven't gotten round to reading it yet.

[That's not a growth]

Yes, nerds are always arguing why the sandworms don't just carry the ring.

[Peter Crisp]

All you need to know about Dune is that in the film Patrick Stewart manages to look old even though the origonal film was made in 1984.

[Peter Crisp]

Yes, nerds are always arguing why the sandworms don't just carry the ring.

I thought the main argument was about why the ladies only let certain people put their hands in their box.

Oh the pain!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pain is the mind-killer!

Tried and failed? Tried and died!

[gaminglegend]

FWIW I can't stand Timothee Chalamet, I've seen him in Lady Bird and Call Me By Your Name. Something about him just fundamentally irks me. Nothing to do with his performances, he's a good enough actor to carry a film like this.

I haven't actually read Dune, but am aware of its significance to the genre so I'm prepared for what may at first look like tropes of the genre in the story. I think the tone of the film looks good though, very much in line with what Villeneuve did with Blade Runner, and I'm looking forward to seeing the final product.

I kind of agree with Timothy. In beautiful boy he was great (very depressive film) but he seems to be everywhere at the ‘IT’ boy at the moment and I just don’t find myself drawn to films he’s in. I’m not sure why.

[Corazon de Leon]

FWIW I can't stand Timothee Chalamet, I've seen him in Lady Bird and Call Me By Your Name. Something about him just fundamentally irks me. Nothing to do with his performances, he's a good enough actor to carry a film like this.

I haven't actually read Dune, but am aware of its significance to the genre so I'm prepared for what may at first look like tropes of the genre in the story. I think the tone of the film looks good though, very much in line with what Villeneuve did with Blade Runner, and I'm looking forward to seeing the final product.

I think *this* is what worries me. Villeneuve has very much developed a house style: grey, cool colours and a gritty sort of realism. It worked excellently in Arrival and Blade Runner but Dune is supposed to be almost high-fantasy sci-fi, with terms like Gom Jabbar, Kwisatz Haderach, Bene Gesserit and Muad'dib banded around all over the place. The decision to ground this version in that same grittiness is...a bit jarring. Imagine if Peter Jackson had made Lord of the Rings look like Sicario.

I do get that, especially if you've read Dune and have a good idea of how the world is built and the concepts should work. My thinking at the moment is that I've thoroughly enjoyed the director's last couple of sci-fi works and I'm hopeful that this will turn out to be a good adaptation as well. I think that there was enough in the trailer to hint at some of the more high fantasy stuff that will hopefully be contained within the movie, but it seems to have been aimed more at introducing people to the universe of Dune. Hopefully there's a lot more to come.

It might well be that Villeneuve wasn't ultimately a good fit based on his style, but for me he's earned the benefit of the doubt.

On a totally different note, it's a really exciting time for me in terms of sci-fi and fantasy books. My wife's convinced me to get into Terry Pratchett as she thinks I'd love the books so I'm getting half a dozen of them for my birthday(and also she couldn't ship her copies from Australia so it's given her a chance to rebuild the collection). I'm thinking of buying Dune as well, especially if they release a decent looking hardback copy to coincide with the release of the film!

[That's not a growth]

I recently read a few of Pratchett's books for the first time and really enjoyed them. I read Going Postal, Making Money and Raising Steam - which are their own trilogy. Last one sags a little, but it was also his last book. I'm going to try Guards Guards or Small God's next, I think.

On Dune, all I really know about it is that the books contain the words 'sandworms' and 'spice', but I liked Blade Runner and Arrival - but like Taff said it is very grey, which I'm finding off putting.

[Moggy]

On Dune, all I really know about it is that the books contain the words 'sandworms' and 'spice', but I liked Blade Runner and Arrival -

I'm exactly the same. I'm looking forward to Dune just because I enjoyed BR and LOVED Arrival.

[Albert]

My wife - an avid reader of science fiction books - thinks this looks gooseberry fool. I - an avid watcher of science fiction movies - think it looks incredible.

Tell her to read "The Night Dawn Trilogy" by Peter F Hamilton, it's great.

I mean don't tell her, but suggest it maybe.

[Tafdolphin]

FWIW I can't stand Timothee Chalamet, I've seen him in Lady Bird and Call Me By Your Name. Something about him just fundamentally irks me. Nothing to do with his performances, he's a good enough actor to carry a film like this.

I haven't actually read Dune, but am aware of its significance to the genre so I'm prepared for what may at first look like tropes of the genre in the story. I think the tone of the film looks good though, very much in line with what Villeneuve did with Blade Runner, and I'm looking forward to seeing the final product.

I think *this* is what worries me. Villeneuve has very much developed a house style: grey, cool colours and a gritty sort of realism. It worked excellently in Arrival and Blade Runner but Dune is supposed to be almost high-fantasy sci-fi, with terms like Gom Jabbar, Kwisatz Haderach, Bene Gesserit and Muad'dib banded around all over the place. The decision to ground this version in that same grittiness is...a bit jarring. Imagine if Peter Jackson had made Lord of the Rings look like Sicario.

I do get that, especially if you've read Dune and have a good idea of how the world is built and the concepts should work. My thinking at the moment is that I've thoroughly enjoyed the director's last couple of sci-fi works and I'm hopeful that this will turn out to be a good adaptation as well. I think that there was enough in the trailer to hint at some of the more high fantasy stuff that will hopefully be contained within the movie, but it seems to have been aimed more at introducing people to the universe of Dune. Hopefully there's a lot more to come.

It might well be that Villeneuve wasn't ultimately a good fit based on his style, but for me he's earned the benefit of the doubt.

On a totally different note, it's a really exciting time for me in terms of sci-fi and fantasy books. My wife's convinced me to get into Terry Pratchett as she thinks I'd love the books so I'm getting half a dozen of them for my birthday(and also she couldn't ship her copies from Australia so it's given her a chance to rebuild the collection). I'm thinking of buying Dune as well, especially if they release a decent looking hardback copy to coincide with the release of the film!

I'm still 100% here for the film. I love Villeneuve's previous work and I reckon this is shaping up to be another barnstormer. I just can't help wishing they'd pushed the boat out conceptually.

And Terry Pratchett is strawberry floating incredible. I've been reading his books since I was 12 and they've never lost their wit or relevance. Oh and the Dune book is great too. I'm currently re-reading it and getting through huge chunks at a time as it's so well penned.

[Jenuall]

I recently read a few of Pratchett's books for the first time and really enjoyed them. I read Going Postal, Making Money and Raising Steam - which are their own trilogy. Last one sags a little, but it was also his last book. I'm going to try Guards Guards or Small God's next, I think.

Off topic I know but picking up on this anyway. I love Pratchett so always happy to see someone getting into his books!

I'd argue that with Postal/Money/Steam you've picked a decent enough entry point. I agree that Raising Steam is weaker, he was pretty deep into the Alzheimers disease by that point and had moved to dictation with significant help from his assistant to actually write the books - the ideas were still there but the zip and clever structure to the writing was lost sadly. For me everything from Unseen Academicals onwards is really starting to show the impact on his writing

Guards Guards is a good one to go for, it's the start of the "Watch" series of books which is a great run to go through. Small Gods is one of the more "standalone" books of which there are a few so if you want to read more of a one off then that is a good choice.

[Cheeky Devlin]

I recently read a few of Pratchett's books for the first time and really enjoyed them. I read Going Postal, Making Money and Raising Steam - which are their own trilogy. Last one sags a little, but it was also his last book. I'm going to try Guards Guards or Small God's next, I think.

Off topic I know but picking up on this anyway. I love Pratchett so always happy to see someone getting into his books!

I'd argue that with Postal/Money/Steam you've picked a decent enough entry point. I agree that Raising Steam is weaker, he was pretty deep into the Alzheimers disease by that point and had moved to dictation with significant help from his assistant to actually write the books - the ideas were still there but the zip and clever structure to the writing was lost sadly. For me everything from Unseen Academicals onwards is really starting to show the impact on his writing

Guards Guards is a good one to go for, it's the start of the "Watch" series of books which is a great run to go through. Small Gods is one of the more "standalone" books of which there are a few so if you want to read more of a one off then that is a good choice.

I got my wife started on them after she read Hogfather.

There are a few good entry points but I started her with the Witches books, then Death, and she was in the Watch books last time she read one.

[Jenuall]

I recently read a few of Pratchett's books for the first time and really enjoyed them. I read Going Postal, Making Money and Raising Steam - which are their own trilogy. Last one sags a little, but it was also his last book. I'm going to try Guards Guards or Small God's next, I think.

Off topic I know but picking up on this anyway. I love Pratchett so always happy to see someone getting into his books!

I'd argue that with Postal/Money/Steam you've picked a decent enough entry point. I agree that Raising Steam is weaker, he was pretty deep into the Alzheimers disease by that point and had moved to dictation with significant help from his assistant to actually write the books - the ideas were still there but the zip and clever structure to the writing was lost sadly. For me everything from Unseen Academicals onwards is really starting to show the impact on his writing

Guards Guards is a good one to go for, it's the start of the "Watch" series of books which is a great run to go through. Small Gods is one of the more "standalone" books of which there are a few so if you want to read more of a one off then that is a good choice.

I got my wife started on them after she read Hogfather.

There are a few good entry points but I started her with the Witches books, then Death, and she was in the Watch books last time she read one.

Hogfather is one of my favourites, try to read them around Christmas whenever I have the time.

[Ironhide]

Just seen the trailer for The Batman.

Unbelievably, it looks really good and seems to have an actual detective work aspect to it.

[Pedz]

I recently read a few of Pratchett's books for the first time and really enjoyed them. I read Going Postal, Making Money and Raising Steam - which are their own trilogy. Last one sags a little, but it was also his last book. I'm going to try Guards Guards or Small God's next, I think.

On Dune, all I really know about it is that the books contain the words 'sandworms' and 'spice', but I liked Blade Runner and Arrival - but like Taff said it is very grey, which I'm finding off putting.

One to read is Thief of Time. Its stand alone and is strawberry floating awesome.

[Tafdolphin]

My favourite Pratchett (and Terry's fav of his own works) is Small Gods. Perhaps the most stand-alone of all the Discworld books (perhaps with the exception of Pyramids) it's both the funniest and most touching of his books I think. It's also the only one to have a file standard named after it (the Ogg Vorbis video codec)

This is followed by Night Watch in my estimations, but you really need to have read all the previous Watch books to appreciate it.