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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2 (Ghostbusters IV: A new hope)
by PatSharpsMullet » Mon Jan 21, 2019 2:13 pm

Godzilla wrote:Leslie Jones not happy about Ghost Busters 2020, she said the proposed film, which ignores the movie she made is like something Trump would do. I didn't even know he made movies.

It's good job the version of Ghostbusters that she was in didn't ignore the originals. :roll:

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2 (Ghostbusters IV: A new hope)
by Wedgie » Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:03 pm

captain red dog wrote:Needs Rick Moranis. It also needs to be twice as good as it did before the 2016 disaster.


Probably would never happened.

Rick Moranis retired a long time ago, while his wife died and felt that he couldn't be in the job any longer due to his young kids.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2 (Ghostbusters IV: A new hope)
by Rex Kramer » Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:36 pm

PatSharpsMullet wrote:
Godzilla wrote:Leslie Jones not happy about Ghost Busters 2020, she said the proposed film, which ignores the movie she made is like something Trump would do. I didn't even know he made movies.

It's good job the version of Ghostbusters that she was in didn't ignore the orignals. :roll:

I wish they'd ignored the originals a bit more so I didn't have to see that Aykroyd cameo.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2 (Ghostbusters IV: A new hope)
by Dual » Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:39 pm

Godzilla wrote:Leslie Jones not happy about Ghost Busters 2020, she said the proposed film, which ignores the movie she made is like something Trump would do. I didn't even know he made movies.


Understandable why she would be pissed off.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2 (Ghostbusters IV: A new hope)
by Ironhide » Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:45 pm

Tafdolphin wrote:John Wick was excellent fun. The second was that film again but a bit flabbier, a bit less lean. Still great, but not quite as sure of itself.

Still can't wait until the third.


I very rarely get hyped for anything but JW3 is definitely of those rare occasions.

The first one is such a fun watch and a great silly action film.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2 (Ghostbusters IV: A new hope)
by Return_of_the_STAR » Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:47 pm

Rex Kramer wrote:
PatSharpsMullet wrote:
Godzilla wrote:Leslie Jones not happy about Ghost Busters 2020, she said the proposed film, which ignores the movie she made is like something Trump would do. I didn't even know he made movies.

It's good job the version of Ghostbusters that she was in didn't ignore the orignals. :roll:

I wish they'd ignored the originals a bit more so I didn't have to see that Aykroyd cameo.


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Godzilla wrote:Leslie Jones not happy about Ghost Busters 2020, she said the proposed film, which ignores the movie she made is like something Trump would do. I didn't even know he made movies.


Understandable why she would be pissed off.


I’m confused, ghostbusters 2016 clearly didn’t exist in the same universe to the first two films and was not a direct sequel so why would Leslie Jones expect a sequel to the original two to have any connection to her film?

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2 (Ghostbusters IV: A new hope)
by Preezy » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:29 am

The cast of the 2016 film should really have gone to prison, she should pipe down.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2 (Ghostbusters IV: A new hope)
by Tafdolphin » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:42 am

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:I’m confused, ghostbusters 2016 clearly didn’t exist in the same universe to the first two films and was not a direct sequel so why would Leslie Jones expect a sequel to the original two to have any connection to her film?


I don't think she's annoyed at the lack of thematic connection tbh.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2 (Ghostbusters IV: A new hope)
by BID0 » Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:36 pm

That 2016 movie wasn't as bad as I was expecting before watching it, but despite that it was still an absolutely terrible movie taf :lol: it's a shame it vindicated the opinions of those toxic people, but that's mostly the fault of Sony for trying to turn the whole thing into an anti women argument.

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by Tafdolphin » Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:38 pm

I'm not here to defend the movie (which I thought was average) just that Jones definitely has a reason to be pissed.

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by Jenuall » Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:23 pm

I went in with very low expectations based on the hammering it received on release and found it to be enjoyable enough, certainly there are far worse examples of film making out there.

strawberry floating tragedy that the already wonky reputation of the Ghostbusters franchise was further harmed by it though. The studio should have just let them leave it alone like everyone involved seemed to want to after the first one.

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by Wedgie » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:01 pm

Why does she have the right to be pissed off? It's not like that the reboot Ghostbusters film have any real links to the originals. Hell it's in a different universe.

This is a direct sequel to the originals. Blame the writers/director for not linking the reboot to the originals.

Pipe down, woman. Nobody like a whiney loser.

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by Moggy » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:03 pm

Wedgie wrote:Pipe down, woman.


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by Wedgie » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:42 pm

Moggy wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Pipe down, woman.


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What? You want me to call her a man?

Don’t be so sexist.

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by Tafdolphin » Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:44 am

Wedgie wrote:Why does she have the right to be pissed off? It's not like that the reboot Ghostbusters film have any real links to the originals. Hell it's in a different universe.

This is a direct sequel to the originals. Blame the writers/director for not linking the reboot to the originals.

Pipe down, woman. Nobody like a whiney loser.


Firstly: gooseberry fool tier troll attempt. 2/10 would not bang.

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To say that I have mixed feelings about this is an understatement. On one hand, you’re rewarding a white male director whose last five movies bombed the keys to a hugely valuable franchise mostly because he’s the son of the guy who directed those first two Ghostbusters movies. And yes, unintentional or not, you’re essentially rewarding the specific demographics who reacted in the very worst way to the 2016 Ghostbusters reboot with the thing they claimed to want instead of the… horrors… all-female sci-fi comedy. And yet, we have only ourselves to blame. Studios aren’t charities and they tend to want movies that attract moviegoers and make money.


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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2 (Ghostbusters IV: A new hope)
by Moggy » Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:59 am

Tafdolphin wrote:Second:

To say that I have mixed feelings about this is an understatement. On one hand, you’re rewarding a white male director whose last five movies bombed the keys to a hugely valuable franchise mostly because he’s the son of the guy who directed those first two Ghostbusters movies. And yes, unintentional or not, you’re essentially rewarding the specific demographics who reacted in the very worst way to the 2016 Ghostbusters reboot with the thing they claimed to want instead of the… horrors… all-female sci-fi comedy. And yet, we have only ourselves to blame. Studios aren’t charities and they tend to want movies that attract moviegoers and make money.


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She is wrong there.

Firstly her Ghostbusters movie was directed by a white male director. I guess Feig didn't have any major flops, but does Reitman? His last 5 movies were The Front Runner, Tully, Men, Women & Children, Labor Day and Young Adult. Which of those makes him less qualified to direct a Ghostbuster movies than Feig's Bridesmaids, The Heat or Spy?

Secondly her Ghostbusters movie wasn't gooseberry fool because it was an all-female sci-fi comedy (would you even class it as sci-fi?) but because it was gooseberry fool.

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by Tafdolphin » Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:38 am

Moggy wrote:
Tafdolphin wrote:Second:

To say that I have mixed feelings about this is an understatement. On one hand, you’re rewarding a white male director whose last five movies bombed the keys to a hugely valuable franchise mostly because he’s the son of the guy who directed those first two Ghostbusters movies. And yes, unintentional or not, you’re essentially rewarding the specific demographics who reacted in the very worst way to the 2016 Ghostbusters reboot with the thing they claimed to want instead of the… horrors… all-female sci-fi comedy. And yet, we have only ourselves to blame. Studios aren’t charities and they tend to want movies that attract moviegoers and make money.


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She is wrong there.

Firstly her Ghostbusters movie was directed by a white male director. I guess Feig didn't have any major flops, but does Reitman? His last 5 movies were The Front Runner, Tully, Men, Women & Children, Labor Day and Young Adult. Which of those makes him less qualified to direct a Ghostbuster movies than Feig's Bridesmaids, The Heat or Spy?

Secondly her Ghostbusters movie wasn't gooseberry fool because it was an all-female sci-fi comedy (would you even class it as sci-fi?) but because it was gooseberry fool.


Firstly, that's a quote from a Forbes journalist.

Second, thirdly whatever: the point is not that a white man can no longer direct Ghostbusters. The point is that the previous white man was and is one of the highest grossing comedy directors of his day who wanted to align the franchise with his moneymaking formula. For a studio, that's an easy sell.

Landis is a fourth rate director with a famous dad, whose only film to make a decent profit had a bankable star like Charlize Theron involved. What reason would the studio have to give him the keys to one of the most recognisable franchises on earth besides, you know, his famous dad having done the first?

Secondly her Ghostbusters movie wasn't gooseberry fool because it was an all-female sci-fi comedy (would you even class it as sci-fi?) but because it was gooseberry fool.


I guess we're lucky that all the discourse around it followed exactly that point!

Except it didn't. It was an average film (or even a gooseberry fool film, that's not the point) that was maligned before release because it took a bunch of manbabies' favourite film and, gosh, put women in decisive roles. That was the argument. It wasn't about the critical merit or the loose narrative, it was about the fact that there were women where once there were men. And that's bad.

This film seems a direct response to this. Even if it isn't, the optics of pandering to a bunch of abusive children is strawberry floating terrible. "Here, here's the Ghostbusters you remember! The director's last name is even the same, please come and see it!"

That's the issue.

Who knows, this film could be great. Again, the quality or lack thereof of this new film and the 2016 one is not the point at all.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2 (Ghostbusters IV: A new hope)
by Moggy » Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:57 am

This would have all been solved if Feig had just made a decent Ghostbusters movie.

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by Wedgie » Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:42 pm

Moggy wrote:This would have all been solved if Feig had just made a decent Ghostbusters movie.


This.

And trolling? How? My points were valid.

Fieg chose to ignore the original universe and decided to move to a new universe. The actress blasted the planned movie cos it didn't link to her movie. Where was the link to old movies' universe? She can't have it her way.

I went in and watch it with an open mind and decided it was rubbish. Not because of the all woman ghostbusters. The humour, script and everything with it was rubbish.

And it would be slightly better if Melissa McCarthy didn't fall back on her foul-mouth, gross out stereotype. The only ghostbuster I like is the maniac blonde scientist. The others were meh.

The only decent thing about the film was the introduction. But the rest sucks. Can you imagine the uproar if the cast was male and the Hemsworth character were female? The feminist rage would shook the world apart.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2 (Ghostbusters IV: A new hope)
by Moggy » Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:06 pm

Wedgie wrote:
Moggy wrote:This would have all been solved if Feig had just made a decent Ghostbusters movie.


This.

And trolling? How? My points were valid.

Fieg chose to ignore the original universe and decided to move to a new universe. The actress blasted the planned movie cos it didn't link to her movie. Where was the link to old movies' universe? She can't have it her way.

I went in and watch it with an open mind and decided it was rubbish. Not because of the all woman ghostbusters. The humour, script and everything with it was rubbish.

And it would be slightly better if Melissa McCarthy didn't fall back on her foul-mouth, gross out stereotype. The only ghostbuster I like is the maniac blonde scientist. The others were meh.

The only decent thing about the film was the introduction. But the rest sucks. Can you imagine the uproar if the cast was male and the Hemsworth character were female? The feminist rage would shook the world apart.


I didn’t care about the Hemsworth character being male, I cared more that he was just too stupid. Unbelievably stupid.

The biggest problem with diversity in Ghostbusters 2016 wasn’t that they gender swapped roles but that they had three brilliant white scientists and one stereotypical “sassy” black female working in a menial job. If the plan was to be “woke” they could have given the black lady a masters degree.


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