Movie News/Discussion Thread 2

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by Hexx » Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:36 pm

Preezy wrote:So Will Smith is getting gooseberry fool for being cast to play Richard Williams (father of Serena and Venus) as he's not dark-skinned enough. Colourism, apparently. I didn't know that was a thing.

Thoughts?


There's definitely an element of "dark blacks" are treated worse by society (if that's true or just an opinion no idea) - and Smith is a "mild black" (so many unfortunate word choices here sorry) that will be acceptable to audience. It's not White-Washing...but...While-Diluting?

Plus it also could into "all blacks just look alike to you" (which is odd given them above is that Smith is a "soft balck" so therefore more acceptable)

Feels like a massive mindfield that lots of white people will give an opinion on

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Rudolphin » Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:32 pm

Same thing happened when Zoe Saldana was cast as Nina Simone.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:44 pm

I understand that there can be resentment that “lightskin blacks” get an easier ride than darker skinned black people. It is a genuine thing and isn’t even exclusive to black people, skin lightening creams are massive business in India for instance.

The issue really is that darker skinned people get fewer roles than lighter skinned people, disabled people get fewer roles than able bodied people, trans people get fewer roles than non-trans people and gay people get fewer roles than straight people. That needs to change, but I am not sure that people saying “Will Smith isn’t black enough” is a great way forward.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Lagamorph » Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:07 pm

Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Preezy wrote:So Will Smith is getting gooseberry fool for being cast to play Richard Williams (father of Serena and Venus) as he's not dark-skinned enough. Colourism, apparently. I didn't know that was a thing.

Thoughts?


He ought to stick to playing blue skinned characters.


:lol:

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:42 pm

Lagamorph wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Preezy wrote:So Will Smith is getting gooseberry fool for being cast to play Richard Williams (father of Serena and Venus) as he's not dark-skinned enough. Colourism, apparently. I didn't know that was a thing.

Thoughts?


He ought to stick to playing blue skinned characters.


:lol:

Limited role options mind: Smurfs, Avatar and possibly playing Beast in a future X-Men movie?

See the previous page, he could also play Sonic the Hedgehog.


Not even Will Smith deserves that indignity.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Jenu-All I Want For Christmas » Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:53 pm

Moggy wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Preezy wrote:So Will Smith is getting gooseberry fool for being cast to play Richard Williams (father of Serena and Venus) as he's not dark-skinned enough. Colourism, apparently. I didn't know that was a thing.

Thoughts?


He ought to stick to playing blue skinned characters.


:lol:

Limited role options mind: Smurfs, Avatar and possibly playing Beast in a future X-Men movie?

See the previous page, he could also play Sonic the Hedgehog.


Not even Will Smith deserves that indignity.


Now this is a story all about how,
I ran 'round the loop, turned upside down,
Finished the act in a minute, coz I gotta go fast,
I'll tell you how I became super and beat Eggman at last.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:54 pm

Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Preezy wrote:So Will Smith is getting gooseberry fool for being cast to play Richard Williams (father of Serena and Venus) as he's not dark-skinned enough. Colourism, apparently. I didn't know that was a thing.

Thoughts?


He ought to stick to playing blue skinned characters.


:lol:

Limited role options mind: Smurfs, Avatar and possibly playing Beast in a future X-Men movie?

See the previous page, he could also play Sonic the Hedgehog.


Not even Will Smith deserves that indignity.


Now this is a story all about how,
I ran 'round the loop, turned upside down,
Finished the act in a minute, coz I gotta go fast,
I'll tell you how I became super and beat Eggman at last.


Ban request for using “Eggman” instead of “Dr Robotnik”

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Jenu-All I Want For Christmas » Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:02 pm

Moggy wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Preezy wrote:So Will Smith is getting gooseberry fool for being cast to play Richard Williams (father of Serena and Venus) as he's not dark-skinned enough. Colourism, apparently. I didn't know that was a thing.

Thoughts?


He ought to stick to playing blue skinned characters.


:lol:

Limited role options mind: Smurfs, Avatar and possibly playing Beast in a future X-Men movie?

See the previous page, he could also play Sonic the Hedgehog.


Not even Will Smith deserves that indignity.


Now this is a story all about how,
I ran 'round the loop, turned upside down,
Finished the act in a minute, coz I gotta go fast,
I'll tell you how I became super and beat Eggman at last.


Ban request for using “Eggman” instead of “Dr Robotnik”


A) it's the correct name.
B) it scanned better! ;)

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:05 pm

Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Preezy wrote:So Will Smith is getting gooseberry fool for being cast to play Richard Williams (father of Serena and Venus) as he's not dark-skinned enough. Colourism, apparently. I didn't know that was a thing.

Thoughts?


He ought to stick to playing blue skinned characters.


:lol:

Limited role options mind: Smurfs, Avatar and possibly playing Beast in a future X-Men movie?

See the previous page, he could also play Sonic the Hedgehog.


Not even Will Smith deserves that indignity.


Now this is a story all about how,
I ran 'round the loop, turned upside down,
Finished the act in a minute, coz I gotta go fast,
I'll tell you how I became super and beat Eggman at last.


Ban request for using “Eggman” instead of “Dr Robotnik”


A) it's the correct name.
B) it scanned better! ;)


A) nobody cares
B) nothing could have made that abomination of a rhyme scan better

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Jenu-All I Want For Christmas » Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:19 pm

Moggy wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Preezy wrote:So Will Smith is getting gooseberry fool for being cast to play Richard Williams (father of Serena and Venus) as he's not dark-skinned enough. Colourism, apparently. I didn't know that was a thing.

Thoughts?


He ought to stick to playing blue skinned characters.


:lol:

Limited role options mind: Smurfs, Avatar and possibly playing Beast in a future X-Men movie?

See the previous page, he could also play Sonic the Hedgehog.


Not even Will Smith deserves that indignity.


Now this is a story all about how,
I ran 'round the loop, turned upside down,
Finished the act in a minute, coz I gotta go fast,
I'll tell you how I became super and beat Eggman at last.


Ban request for using “Eggman” instead of “Dr Robotnik”


A) it's the correct name.
B) it scanned better! ;)


A) nobody cares
B) nothing could have made that abomination of a rhyme scan better


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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Festivus Maximus » Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:27 pm

Pretty good, Jenuall, I'd give that a high 8/10.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:30 pm

Preezy wrote:Pretty good, Jenuall, I'd give that a high 8/10.


But if you weren’t high?

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Lagamorph » Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:54 pm

Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Preezy wrote:So Will Smith is getting gooseberry fool for being cast to play Richard Williams (father of Serena and Venus) as he's not dark-skinned enough. Colourism, apparently. I didn't know that was a thing.

Thoughts?


He ought to stick to playing blue skinned characters.


:lol:

Limited role options mind: Smurfs, Avatar and possibly playing Beast in a future X-Men movie?

See the previous page, he could also play Sonic the Hedgehog.


Not even Will Smith deserves that indignity.


Now this is a story all about how,
I ran 'round the loop, turned upside down,
Finished the act in a minute, coz I gotta go fast,
I'll tell you how I became super and beat Eggman at last.


Ban request for using “Eggman” instead of “Dr Robotnik”


A) it's the correct name.
B) it scanned better! ;)

A) Robotnik is his actual name, Eggman is a nickname
B) The film is using the name Robotnik

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Pedz » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:12 pm

Wait, since when was it that? Robotnik was the western name. And the Japanese name was Eggman. Hence everything being called the something egg.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Jenu-All I Want For Christmas » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:18 pm

Yep, Eggman was the original name. The West tried to rewrite the backstory and things like the Eggman name when marketing the game to the US, hence Robotnik and all the chilli dog bullshit that got tacked on to the character.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Lagamorph » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:35 pm

Pedz wrote:Wait, since when was it that? Robotnik was the western name. And the Japanese name was Eggman. Hence everything being called the something egg.

Since Yuji Naka said so.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Jenu-All I Want For Christmas » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:46 pm

Lagamorph wrote:
Pedz wrote:Wait, since when was it that? Robotnik was the western name. And the Japanese name was Eggman. Hence everything being called the something egg.

Since Yuji Naka said so.

He, along with the others who originally designed the game, also said they didn't like what the West tried to do to the series.

They essentially "gave in" and adopted the western name as a way to try and deal with years of division and confusion between the series eastern and western fans.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Lagamorph » Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:04 pm

Eggman sounds strawberry floating stupid anyway, Robotnik sounds way better.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Pedz » Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:12 pm

Not the point really. Was it Japan or American who wanted Tails to be called Miles. You also have all the gooseberry fool from before Sonic Adventure taking place on Mobius in the west where it's all set on Earth in Japan. Though I hated human people in Sonic. So.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Lagamorph » Wed Mar 06, 2019 10:09 pm

The West did way better stuf with Sonic plot than Japan ever did.

Then again the West also made this,

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