Movie News/Discussion Thread 2

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by Alvin Flummux » Tue Mar 05, 2019 11:44 am

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Preezy » Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:18 pm

So Will Smith is getting gooseberry fool for being cast to play Richard Williams (father of Serena and Venus) as he's not dark-skinned enough. Colourism, apparently. I didn't know that was a thing.

Thoughts?

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Moggy » Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:22 pm

Preezy wrote:So Will Smith is getting gooseberry fool for being cast to play Richard Williams (father of Serena and Venus) as he's not dark-skinned enough. Colourism, apparently. I didn't know that was a thing.

Thoughts?


He ought to stick to playing blue skinned characters.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Jenuall » Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:28 pm

Moggy wrote:
Preezy wrote:So Will Smith is getting gooseberry fool for being cast to play Richard Williams (father of Serena and Venus) as he's not dark-skinned enough. Colourism, apparently. I didn't know that was a thing.

Thoughts?


He ought to stick to playing blue skinned characters.


:lol:

Limited role options mind: Smurfs, Avatar and possibly playing Beast in a future X-Men movie?

It is an interesting situation, I've not seen complaints along these lines before? (not that I've been looking for them mind you).

Often it seems that where we hear a lot about white-washing and the casting of white western actors in roles which should go to someone from a more minority representation (which we can all agree is a Bad Thing™) we don't tend to hear so much about more "nuanced" inaccuracies in casting like this.

For example you often get a mix of SE Asia actors in roles (e.g. a Korean actor playing a Chinese role) and that doesn't (again, to my knowledge) tend to get called out.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Hexx » Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:36 pm

Preezy wrote:So Will Smith is getting gooseberry fool for being cast to play Richard Williams (father of Serena and Venus) as he's not dark-skinned enough. Colourism, apparently. I didn't know that was a thing.

Thoughts?


There's definitely an element of "dark blacks" are treated worse by society (if that's true or just an opinion no idea) - and Smith is a "mild black" (so many unfortunate word choices here sorry) that will be acceptable to audience. It's not White-Washing...but...While-Diluting?

Plus it also could into "all blacks just look alike to you" (which is odd given them above is that Smith is a "soft balck" so therefore more acceptable)

Feels like a massive mindfield that lots of white people will give an opinion on

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by Tafdolphin » Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:32 pm

Same thing happened when Zoe Saldana was cast as Nina Simone.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Moggy » Wed Mar 06, 2019 3:44 pm

I understand that there can be resentment that “lightskin blacks” get an easier ride than darker skinned black people. It is a genuine thing and isn’t even exclusive to black people, skin lightening creams are massive business in India for instance.

The issue really is that darker skinned people get fewer roles than lighter skinned people, disabled people get fewer roles than able bodied people, trans people get fewer roles than non-trans people and gay people get fewer roles than straight people. That needs to change, but I am not sure that people saying “Will Smith isn’t black enough” is a great way forward.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Lagamorph » Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:07 pm

Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Preezy wrote:So Will Smith is getting gooseberry fool for being cast to play Richard Williams (father of Serena and Venus) as he's not dark-skinned enough. Colourism, apparently. I didn't know that was a thing.

Thoughts?


He ought to stick to playing blue skinned characters.


:lol:

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See the previous page, he could also play Sonic the Hedgehog.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Moggy » Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:42 pm

Lagamorph wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Preezy wrote:So Will Smith is getting gooseberry fool for being cast to play Richard Williams (father of Serena and Venus) as he's not dark-skinned enough. Colourism, apparently. I didn't know that was a thing.

Thoughts?


He ought to stick to playing blue skinned characters.


:lol:

Limited role options mind: Smurfs, Avatar and possibly playing Beast in a future X-Men movie?

See the previous page, he could also play Sonic the Hedgehog.


Not even Will Smith deserves that indignity.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Jenuall » Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:53 pm

Moggy wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Preezy wrote:So Will Smith is getting gooseberry fool for being cast to play Richard Williams (father of Serena and Venus) as he's not dark-skinned enough. Colourism, apparently. I didn't know that was a thing.

Thoughts?


He ought to stick to playing blue skinned characters.


:lol:

Limited role options mind: Smurfs, Avatar and possibly playing Beast in a future X-Men movie?

See the previous page, he could also play Sonic the Hedgehog.


Not even Will Smith deserves that indignity.


Now this is a story all about how,
I ran 'round the loop, turned upside down,
Finished the act in a minute, coz I gotta go fast,
I'll tell you how I became super and beat Eggman at last.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Moggy » Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:54 pm

Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Preezy wrote:So Will Smith is getting gooseberry fool for being cast to play Richard Williams (father of Serena and Venus) as he's not dark-skinned enough. Colourism, apparently. I didn't know that was a thing.

Thoughts?


He ought to stick to playing blue skinned characters.


:lol:

Limited role options mind: Smurfs, Avatar and possibly playing Beast in a future X-Men movie?

See the previous page, he could also play Sonic the Hedgehog.


Not even Will Smith deserves that indignity.


Now this is a story all about how,
I ran 'round the loop, turned upside down,
Finished the act in a minute, coz I gotta go fast,
I'll tell you how I became super and beat Eggman at last.


Ban request for using “Eggman” instead of “Dr Robotnik”

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Jenuall » Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:02 pm

Moggy wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Preezy wrote:So Will Smith is getting gooseberry fool for being cast to play Richard Williams (father of Serena and Venus) as he's not dark-skinned enough. Colourism, apparently. I didn't know that was a thing.

Thoughts?


He ought to stick to playing blue skinned characters.


:lol:

Limited role options mind: Smurfs, Avatar and possibly playing Beast in a future X-Men movie?

See the previous page, he could also play Sonic the Hedgehog.


Not even Will Smith deserves that indignity.


Now this is a story all about how,
I ran 'round the loop, turned upside down,
Finished the act in a minute, coz I gotta go fast,
I'll tell you how I became super and beat Eggman at last.


Ban request for using “Eggman” instead of “Dr Robotnik”


A) it's the correct name.
B) it scanned better! ;)

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Moggy » Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:05 pm

Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Preezy wrote:So Will Smith is getting gooseberry fool for being cast to play Richard Williams (father of Serena and Venus) as he's not dark-skinned enough. Colourism, apparently. I didn't know that was a thing.

Thoughts?


He ought to stick to playing blue skinned characters.


:lol:

Limited role options mind: Smurfs, Avatar and possibly playing Beast in a future X-Men movie?

See the previous page, he could also play Sonic the Hedgehog.


Not even Will Smith deserves that indignity.


Now this is a story all about how,
I ran 'round the loop, turned upside down,
Finished the act in a minute, coz I gotta go fast,
I'll tell you how I became super and beat Eggman at last.


Ban request for using “Eggman” instead of “Dr Robotnik”


A) it's the correct name.
B) it scanned better! ;)


A) nobody cares
B) nothing could have made that abomination of a rhyme scan better

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Jenuall » Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:19 pm

Moggy wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Preezy wrote:So Will Smith is getting gooseberry fool for being cast to play Richard Williams (father of Serena and Venus) as he's not dark-skinned enough. Colourism, apparently. I didn't know that was a thing.

Thoughts?


He ought to stick to playing blue skinned characters.


:lol:

Limited role options mind: Smurfs, Avatar and possibly playing Beast in a future X-Men movie?

See the previous page, he could also play Sonic the Hedgehog.


Not even Will Smith deserves that indignity.


Now this is a story all about how,
I ran 'round the loop, turned upside down,
Finished the act in a minute, coz I gotta go fast,
I'll tell you how I became super and beat Eggman at last.


Ban request for using “Eggman” instead of “Dr Robotnik”


A) it's the correct name.
B) it scanned better! ;)


A) nobody cares
B) nothing could have made that abomination of a rhyme scan better


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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Preezy » Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:27 pm

Pretty good, Jenuall, I'd give that a high 8/10.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Moggy » Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:30 pm

Preezy wrote:Pretty good, Jenuall, I'd give that a high 8/10.


But if you weren’t high?

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Lagamorph » Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:54 pm

Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Preezy wrote:So Will Smith is getting gooseberry fool for being cast to play Richard Williams (father of Serena and Venus) as he's not dark-skinned enough. Colourism, apparently. I didn't know that was a thing.

Thoughts?


He ought to stick to playing blue skinned characters.


:lol:

Limited role options mind: Smurfs, Avatar and possibly playing Beast in a future X-Men movie?

See the previous page, he could also play Sonic the Hedgehog.


Not even Will Smith deserves that indignity.


Now this is a story all about how,
I ran 'round the loop, turned upside down,
Finished the act in a minute, coz I gotta go fast,
I'll tell you how I became super and beat Eggman at last.


Ban request for using “Eggman” instead of “Dr Robotnik”


A) it's the correct name.
B) it scanned better! ;)

A) Robotnik is his actual name, Eggman is a nickname
B) The film is using the name Robotnik

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Pedz » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:12 pm

Wait, since when was it that? Robotnik was the western name. And the Japanese name was Eggman. Hence everything being called the something egg.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Jenuall » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:18 pm

Yep, Eggman was the original name. The West tried to rewrite the backstory and things like the Eggman name when marketing the game to the US, hence Robotnik and all the chilli dog bullshit that got tacked on to the character.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Lagamorph » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:35 pm

Pedz wrote:Wait, since when was it that? Robotnik was the western name. And the Japanese name was Eggman. Hence everything being called the something egg.

Since Yuji Naka said so.

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