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by Pedz » Tue May 07, 2019 4:36 pm

my youngest is 6 and plays Sonic.

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by Jenuall » Tue May 07, 2019 4:40 pm

My kids (8, 6, and 3) know who Sonic is but only because I've let them try/watch me play the games a couple of times.

They have zero interest in it themselves. The atrocious looking "Sonic Boom" cartoon is on Netflix but none of them have ever tried watching it despite the fact it appears on the screen fairly often.

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by Pedz » Tue May 07, 2019 4:49 pm

Sonic Boom is great. Genuinely funny.

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by Jenuall » Tue May 07, 2019 4:53 pm

Pedz wrote:Sonic Boom is great. Genuinely funny.

Is it? Perhaps I may give it a try. I can't say as I have ever really appreciated any of the cartoon Sonic adaptations. I can't even think what the strawberry float Sonic Underground was supposed to be aiming at! :lol:

I just recall seeing the initial images of the Sonic Boom character designs and thinking "what the hell have they done to my childhood?" and therefore dismissed the whole thing!

Little did I know that much greater sins were yet to be committed in the world of terrible Sonic character design. :fp:

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by Pedz » Tue May 07, 2019 4:56 pm

Yeah, character design isn't it's strong point. The show itself is good though. Episodes are very short too. Perfect to watch one every now and then

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by abcd » Tue May 07, 2019 5:22 pm

To be honest, I don't want my kids to go any near Sonic. I wish the damn thing would disappear forever.

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by BOR » Tue May 07, 2019 7:56 pm

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Preezy » Tue May 07, 2019 10:08 pm

strawberry floating hell, give it a rest for a few years, Disney.

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by Floex » Tue May 07, 2019 10:10 pm

Preezy wrote:strawberry floating hell, give it a rest for a few years, Disney.


Isn’t that exactly what they’re doing? :slol:

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by Jenuall » Wed May 08, 2019 9:24 am

Floex wrote:
Preezy wrote:strawberry floating hell, give it a rest for a few years, Disney.


Isn’t that exactly what they’re doing? :slol:


Well they've been on a two year schedule (2015, 2017, 2019) so they're only really "resting" for one year if the next saga starts in 2022.

It does feel a bit much. We had 16 years from the original trilogy to the prequels (both of which were released on a 3 year cycle rather than the compressed 2 year one we have now). Over a span of 28 years from 1977 to 2005 we had 6 Star Wars films. If they stick to the schedule from that tweet then in the space of 11 years from 2015 to 2026 Disney will have put out at least 9 movies - more if they revive the spin off stuff. To me that seems like overkill, especially as they haven't exactly been keeping the quality consistent so far...

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Moggy » Wed May 08, 2019 9:35 am

If the quality is there then I don’t really see how a movie every couple of years is too much. We get 2 or 3 Marvel movies every year and they are always big hits and remain popular.

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by Jenuall » Wed May 08, 2019 9:41 am

Moggy wrote:If the quality is there then I don’t really see how a movie every couple of years is too much. We get 2 or 3 Marvel movies every year and they are always big hits and remain popular.

True, but not every franchise needs to follow the same release structure. To me the precedent of a Star Wars movie being "A Big Deal™" that we only see every few years makes it feel more exciting. Also like I say, I don't think the quality has been there from Star Wars lately.

I think the Marvel approach is different in that they are working with a wider cast of characters and the movies that we get each year are more focused titles - they are telling a broader story (or set of stories) from a different set of perspectives. We don't get an Avengers movie every year (except when we do... :slol: )

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by Preezy » Wed May 08, 2019 9:44 am

It's just too much in too short a space of time. Fatigue sets in, the franchise becomes run-of-the-mill and less of a spectacle or "event", the shine comes off and you just see the money machine behind it. I'm so bored of Star Wars now.

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by Tafdolphin » Wed May 08, 2019 9:45 am

I'm here for Johnson's new trilogy.

Judging from the current quality of GoTs, the Weiss and Beninoff ones can get tae strawberry float however.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Moggy » Wed May 08, 2019 9:53 am

Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:If the quality is there then I don’t really see how a movie every couple of years is too much. We get 2 or 3 Marvel movies every year and they are always big hits and remain popular.

True, but not every franchise needs to follow the same release structure. To me the precedent of a Star Wars movie being "A Big Deal™" that we only see every few years makes it feel more exciting. Also like I say, I don't think the quality has been there from Star Wars lately.

I think the Marvel approach is different in that they are working with a wider cast of characters and the movies that we get each year are more focused titles - they are telling a broader story (or set of stories) from a different set of perspectives. We don't get an Avengers movie every year (except when we do... :slol: )


I wasn’t arguing for Star Wars to release 3 movies a year! 1 main movie every 2 or 3 years sounds about right, with the odd spinoff here and there.

Disney didn’t buy Lucasfilm to release a movie once a decade.

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by Tomous » Wed May 08, 2019 10:08 am

I'd happily have a new Star Wars film every year if they were good.

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by Jenuall » Wed May 08, 2019 10:10 am

Moggy wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:If the quality is there then I don’t really see how a movie every couple of years is too much. We get 2 or 3 Marvel movies every year and they are always big hits and remain popular.

True, but not every franchise needs to follow the same release structure. To me the precedent of a Star Wars movie being "A Big Deal™" that we only see every few years makes it feel more exciting. Also like I say, I don't think the quality has been there from Star Wars lately.

I think the Marvel approach is different in that they are working with a wider cast of characters and the movies that we get each year are more focused titles - they are telling a broader story (or set of stories) from a different set of perspectives. We don't get an Avengers movie every year (except when we do... :slol: )


I wasn’t arguing for Star Wars to release 3 movies a year! 1 main movie every 2 or 3 years sounds about right, with the odd spinoff here and there.

Disney didn’t buy Lucasfilm to release a movie once a decade.

Absolutely, they want to make some money on the franchise and that's fine but they need to be careful about how they do it. With the MCU they were starting from the ground up and were able to establish a pattern for how that franchise was delivered, it's harder to take something as established as Star Wars and accelerate the delivery of it unless you are very certain of your plans and the quality of what you are outputting.

"Hey we're taking over the franchise that you love, there's going to be a new movie every 12 months now! But don't worry about things feeling diluted because some of them are going to be a bit gooseberry fool anyway!"

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by Moggy » Wed May 08, 2019 10:16 am

Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:If the quality is there then I don’t really see how a movie every couple of years is too much. We get 2 or 3 Marvel movies every year and they are always big hits and remain popular.

True, but not every franchise needs to follow the same release structure. To me the precedent of a Star Wars movie being "A Big Deal™" that we only see every few years makes it feel more exciting. Also like I say, I don't think the quality has been there from Star Wars lately.

I think the Marvel approach is different in that they are working with a wider cast of characters and the movies that we get each year are more focused titles - they are telling a broader story (or set of stories) from a different set of perspectives. We don't get an Avengers movie every year (except when we do... :slol: )


I wasn’t arguing for Star Wars to release 3 movies a year! 1 main movie every 2 or 3 years sounds about right, with the odd spinoff here and there.

Disney didn’t buy Lucasfilm to release a movie once a decade.

Absolutely, they want to make some money on the franchise and that's fine but they need to be careful about how they do it. With the MCU they were starting from the ground up and were able to establish a pattern for how that franchise was delivered, it's harder to take something as established as Star Wars and accelerate the delivery of it unless you are very certain of your plans and the quality of what you are outputting.

"Hey we're taking over the franchise that you love, there's going to be a new movie every 12 months now! But don't worry about things feeling diluted because some of them are going to be a bit gooseberry fool anyway!"


The movies make so much money that I don’t think Disney care if people think it feels diluted. :lol:

There’s no real reason they should feel diluted though as long as Disney are willing to move away from the Skywalker side of things. They have thousands of years of “history” and thousands of potential planets to choose from. There are plenty of stories and events that can be written away from the Darth Vader/Luke Skywalker stuff.

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by Wedgie » Wed May 08, 2019 10:26 am

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Jenuall » Wed May 08, 2019 10:27 am

Moggy wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:If the quality is there then I don’t really see how a movie every couple of years is too much. We get 2 or 3 Marvel movies every year and they are always big hits and remain popular.

True, but not every franchise needs to follow the same release structure. To me the precedent of a Star Wars movie being "A Big Deal™" that we only see every few years makes it feel more exciting. Also like I say, I don't think the quality has been there from Star Wars lately.

I think the Marvel approach is different in that they are working with a wider cast of characters and the movies that we get each year are more focused titles - they are telling a broader story (or set of stories) from a different set of perspectives. We don't get an Avengers movie every year (except when we do... :slol: )


I wasn’t arguing for Star Wars to release 3 movies a year! 1 main movie every 2 or 3 years sounds about right, with the odd spinoff here and there.

Disney didn’t buy Lucasfilm to release a movie once a decade.

Absolutely, they want to make some money on the franchise and that's fine but they need to be careful about how they do it. With the MCU they were starting from the ground up and were able to establish a pattern for how that franchise was delivered, it's harder to take something as established as Star Wars and accelerate the delivery of it unless you are very certain of your plans and the quality of what you are outputting.

"Hey we're taking over the franchise that you love, there's going to be a new movie every 12 months now! But don't worry about things feeling diluted because some of them are going to be a bit gooseberry fool anyway!"


The movies make so much money that I don’t think Disney care if people think it feels diluted. :lol:

There’s no real reason they should feel diluted though as long as Disney are willing to move away from the Skywalker side of things. They have thousands of years of “history” and thousands of potential planets to choose from. There are plenty of stories and events that can be written away from the Darth Vader/Luke Skywalker stuff.

That's the concern I guess - TFA made megabucks, Rogue One did well for a spin off, TLJ whilst still a big earner was down considerably from TFA, and Solo bombed. Most of these have also been associated with a certain degree of production problems - reshoots, changing of personnel behind the scenes, lack of faith between studio and the director etc.

They have put themselves into a surprisingly precarious position by trying to milk the cash cow too hard and too fast, if Rise of Skywalker is anything but brilliant and gets a bad start at the box office then I can see it struggling to bring in the money that they would want/need it to.


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