Movie News/Discussion Thread 2

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by Moggy » Wed May 08, 2019 9:53 am

Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:If the quality is there then I don’t really see how a movie every couple of years is too much. We get 2 or 3 Marvel movies every year and they are always big hits and remain popular.

True, but not every franchise needs to follow the same release structure. To me the precedent of a Star Wars movie being "A Big Deal™" that we only see every few years makes it feel more exciting. Also like I say, I don't think the quality has been there from Star Wars lately.

I think the Marvel approach is different in that they are working with a wider cast of characters and the movies that we get each year are more focused titles - they are telling a broader story (or set of stories) from a different set of perspectives. We don't get an Avengers movie every year (except when we do... :slol: )


I wasn’t arguing for Star Wars to release 3 movies a year! 1 main movie every 2 or 3 years sounds about right, with the odd spinoff here and there.

Disney didn’t buy Lucasfilm to release a movie once a decade.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Tomous » Wed May 08, 2019 10:08 am

I'd happily have a new Star Wars film every year if they were good.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Jenuall » Wed May 08, 2019 10:10 am

Moggy wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:If the quality is there then I don’t really see how a movie every couple of years is too much. We get 2 or 3 Marvel movies every year and they are always big hits and remain popular.

True, but not every franchise needs to follow the same release structure. To me the precedent of a Star Wars movie being "A Big Deal™" that we only see every few years makes it feel more exciting. Also like I say, I don't think the quality has been there from Star Wars lately.

I think the Marvel approach is different in that they are working with a wider cast of characters and the movies that we get each year are more focused titles - they are telling a broader story (or set of stories) from a different set of perspectives. We don't get an Avengers movie every year (except when we do... :slol: )


I wasn’t arguing for Star Wars to release 3 movies a year! 1 main movie every 2 or 3 years sounds about right, with the odd spinoff here and there.

Disney didn’t buy Lucasfilm to release a movie once a decade.

Absolutely, they want to make some money on the franchise and that's fine but they need to be careful about how they do it. With the MCU they were starting from the ground up and were able to establish a pattern for how that franchise was delivered, it's harder to take something as established as Star Wars and accelerate the delivery of it unless you are very certain of your plans and the quality of what you are outputting.

"Hey we're taking over the franchise that you love, there's going to be a new movie every 12 months now! But don't worry about things feeling diluted because some of them are going to be a bit gooseberry fool anyway!"

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Moggy » Wed May 08, 2019 10:16 am

Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:If the quality is there then I don’t really see how a movie every couple of years is too much. We get 2 or 3 Marvel movies every year and they are always big hits and remain popular.

True, but not every franchise needs to follow the same release structure. To me the precedent of a Star Wars movie being "A Big Deal™" that we only see every few years makes it feel more exciting. Also like I say, I don't think the quality has been there from Star Wars lately.

I think the Marvel approach is different in that they are working with a wider cast of characters and the movies that we get each year are more focused titles - they are telling a broader story (or set of stories) from a different set of perspectives. We don't get an Avengers movie every year (except when we do... :slol: )


I wasn’t arguing for Star Wars to release 3 movies a year! 1 main movie every 2 or 3 years sounds about right, with the odd spinoff here and there.

Disney didn’t buy Lucasfilm to release a movie once a decade.

Absolutely, they want to make some money on the franchise and that's fine but they need to be careful about how they do it. With the MCU they were starting from the ground up and were able to establish a pattern for how that franchise was delivered, it's harder to take something as established as Star Wars and accelerate the delivery of it unless you are very certain of your plans and the quality of what you are outputting.

"Hey we're taking over the franchise that you love, there's going to be a new movie every 12 months now! But don't worry about things feeling diluted because some of them are going to be a bit gooseberry fool anyway!"


The movies make so much money that I don’t think Disney care if people think it feels diluted. :lol:

There’s no real reason they should feel diluted though as long as Disney are willing to move away from the Skywalker side of things. They have thousands of years of “history” and thousands of potential planets to choose from. There are plenty of stories and events that can be written away from the Darth Vader/Luke Skywalker stuff.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Wedgie » Wed May 08, 2019 10:26 am

Grand Admiral Thrawn please.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Jenuall » Wed May 08, 2019 10:27 am

Moggy wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:If the quality is there then I don’t really see how a movie every couple of years is too much. We get 2 or 3 Marvel movies every year and they are always big hits and remain popular.

True, but not every franchise needs to follow the same release structure. To me the precedent of a Star Wars movie being "A Big Deal™" that we only see every few years makes it feel more exciting. Also like I say, I don't think the quality has been there from Star Wars lately.

I think the Marvel approach is different in that they are working with a wider cast of characters and the movies that we get each year are more focused titles - they are telling a broader story (or set of stories) from a different set of perspectives. We don't get an Avengers movie every year (except when we do... :slol: )


I wasn’t arguing for Star Wars to release 3 movies a year! 1 main movie every 2 or 3 years sounds about right, with the odd spinoff here and there.

Disney didn’t buy Lucasfilm to release a movie once a decade.

Absolutely, they want to make some money on the franchise and that's fine but they need to be careful about how they do it. With the MCU they were starting from the ground up and were able to establish a pattern for how that franchise was delivered, it's harder to take something as established as Star Wars and accelerate the delivery of it unless you are very certain of your plans and the quality of what you are outputting.

"Hey we're taking over the franchise that you love, there's going to be a new movie every 12 months now! But don't worry about things feeling diluted because some of them are going to be a bit gooseberry fool anyway!"


The movies make so much money that I don’t think Disney care if people think it feels diluted. :lol:

There’s no real reason they should feel diluted though as long as Disney are willing to move away from the Skywalker side of things. They have thousands of years of “history” and thousands of potential planets to choose from. There are plenty of stories and events that can be written away from the Darth Vader/Luke Skywalker stuff.

That's the concern I guess - TFA made megabucks, Rogue One did well for a spin off, TLJ whilst still a big earner was down considerably from TFA, and Solo bombed. Most of these have also been associated with a certain degree of production problems - reshoots, changing of personnel behind the scenes, lack of faith between studio and the director etc.

They have put themselves into a surprisingly precarious position by trying to milk the cash cow too hard and too fast, if Rise of Skywalker is anything but brilliant and gets a bad start at the box office then I can see it struggling to bring in the money that they would want/need it to.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Dual » Wed May 08, 2019 10:39 am

There was definitely Marvel fatigue half way through the 3 phases. They only broke out of it with Black Panther imo as that was so different to everything else.

Hopefully they'll have a Star Wars equivalent.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Moggy » Wed May 08, 2019 10:43 am

Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:If the quality is there then I don’t really see how a movie every couple of years is too much. We get 2 or 3 Marvel movies every year and they are always big hits and remain popular.

True, but not every franchise needs to follow the same release structure. To me the precedent of a Star Wars movie being "A Big Deal™" that we only see every few years makes it feel more exciting. Also like I say, I don't think the quality has been there from Star Wars lately.

I think the Marvel approach is different in that they are working with a wider cast of characters and the movies that we get each year are more focused titles - they are telling a broader story (or set of stories) from a different set of perspectives. We don't get an Avengers movie every year (except when we do... :slol: )


I wasn’t arguing for Star Wars to release 3 movies a year! 1 main movie every 2 or 3 years sounds about right, with the odd spinoff here and there.

Disney didn’t buy Lucasfilm to release a movie once a decade.

Absolutely, they want to make some money on the franchise and that's fine but they need to be careful about how they do it. With the MCU they were starting from the ground up and were able to establish a pattern for how that franchise was delivered, it's harder to take something as established as Star Wars and accelerate the delivery of it unless you are very certain of your plans and the quality of what you are outputting.

"Hey we're taking over the franchise that you love, there's going to be a new movie every 12 months now! But don't worry about things feeling diluted because some of them are going to be a bit gooseberry fool anyway!"


The movies make so much money that I don’t think Disney care if people think it feels diluted. :lol:

There’s no real reason they should feel diluted though as long as Disney are willing to move away from the Skywalker side of things. They have thousands of years of “history” and thousands of potential planets to choose from. There are plenty of stories and events that can be written away from the Darth Vader/Luke Skywalker stuff.

That's the concern I guess - TFA made megabucks, Rogue One did well for a spin off, TLJ whilst still a big earner was down considerably from TFA, and Solo bombed. Most of these have also been associated with a certain degree of production problems - reshoots, changing of personnel behind the scenes, lack of faith between studio and the director etc.

They have put themselves into a surprisingly precarious position by trying to milk the cash cow too hard and too fast, if Rise of Skywalker is anything but brilliant and gets a bad start at the box office then I can see it struggling to bring in the money that they would want/need it to.


Solo pretty much bombed, but TLJ is the second highest grossing Star Wars movie (after Force Awakens).

What they need is a guy like Feige in charge of the overall development to guide it. The idea that Abrams and Johnson had no overall plan for the latest trilogy was bloody stupid.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Jenuall » Wed May 08, 2019 11:09 am

Moggy wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:If the quality is there then I don’t really see how a movie every couple of years is too much. We get 2 or 3 Marvel movies every year and they are always big hits and remain popular.

True, but not every franchise needs to follow the same release structure. To me the precedent of a Star Wars movie being "A Big Deal™" that we only see every few years makes it feel more exciting. Also like I say, I don't think the quality has been there from Star Wars lately.

I think the Marvel approach is different in that they are working with a wider cast of characters and the movies that we get each year are more focused titles - they are telling a broader story (or set of stories) from a different set of perspectives. We don't get an Avengers movie every year (except when we do... :slol: )


I wasn’t arguing for Star Wars to release 3 movies a year! 1 main movie every 2 or 3 years sounds about right, with the odd spinoff here and there.

Disney didn’t buy Lucasfilm to release a movie once a decade.

Absolutely, they want to make some money on the franchise and that's fine but they need to be careful about how they do it. With the MCU they were starting from the ground up and were able to establish a pattern for how that franchise was delivered, it's harder to take something as established as Star Wars and accelerate the delivery of it unless you are very certain of your plans and the quality of what you are outputting.

"Hey we're taking over the franchise that you love, there's going to be a new movie every 12 months now! But don't worry about things feeling diluted because some of them are going to be a bit gooseberry fool anyway!"


The movies make so much money that I don’t think Disney care if people think it feels diluted. :lol:

There’s no real reason they should feel diluted though as long as Disney are willing to move away from the Skywalker side of things. They have thousands of years of “history” and thousands of potential planets to choose from. There are plenty of stories and events that can be written away from the Darth Vader/Luke Skywalker stuff.

That's the concern I guess - TFA made megabucks, Rogue One did well for a spin off, TLJ whilst still a big earner was down considerably from TFA, and Solo bombed. Most of these have also been associated with a certain degree of production problems - reshoots, changing of personnel behind the scenes, lack of faith between studio and the director etc.

They have put themselves into a surprisingly precarious position by trying to milk the cash cow too hard and too fast, if Rise of Skywalker is anything but brilliant and gets a bad start at the box office then I can see it struggling to bring in the money that they would want/need it to.


Solo pretty much bombed, but TLJ is the second highest grossing Star Wars movie (after Force Awakens).

What they need is a guy like Feige in charge of the overall development to guide it. The idea that Abrams and Johnson had no overall plan for the latest trilogy was bloody stupid.

Yeah the lack of a person with overall control and vision is the big killer, and its a lesson that they really shouldn't have needed to learn this way.

In terms of box office you need to look at the inflation adjusted figures, A New Hope may have made "only" $460,000 in the US by 1977 standards but adjusted for today it is a whopping $1.6M putting it well above TFA.

TLJ is down below Phatom Menace in 6th place. :lol:

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Hexx » Wed May 08, 2019 11:13 am

Jenuall wrote:A New Hope may have made "only" $460,000 in the US by 1977 standards but adjusted for today it is a whopping $1.6M


Someone just picked a bouquet of WhoopsieDaisies.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Jenuall » Wed May 08, 2019 11:27 am

Hexx wrote:
Jenuall wrote:A New Hope may have made "only" $460,000 in the US by 1977 standards but adjusted for today it is a whopping $1.6M


Someone just picked a bouquet of WhoopsieDaisies.

Haha! Thousands, millions, billions whatever it's all the same! The key point is that my numbers are bigger than your numbers and therefore I am right! :lol:

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by Hexx » Wed May 08, 2019 11:47 am

Jenuall wrote:
Hexx wrote:
Jenuall wrote:A New Hope may have made "only" $460,000 in the US by 1977 standards but adjusted for today it is a whopping $1.6M


Someone just picked a bouquet of WhoopsieDaisies.

Haha! Thousands, millions, billions whatever it's all the same! The key point is that my numbers are bigger than your numbers and therefore I am right! :lol:


Typical someone with your freakhands would thing size is a default good thing.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Jenuall » Wed May 08, 2019 11:56 am

Hexx wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Hexx wrote:
Jenuall wrote:A New Hope may have made "only" $460,000 in the US by 1977 standards but adjusted for today it is a whopping $1.6M


Someone just picked a bouquet of WhoopsieDaisies.

Haha! Thousands, millions, billions whatever it's all the same! The key point is that my numbers are bigger than your numbers and therefore I am right! :lol:


Typical someone with your freakhands would thing size is a default good thing.

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PostRe: Movie News/Discussion Thread 2
by Preezy » Thu May 09, 2019 5:16 pm

Still not got round to watching the first film, really need to get my film backlog sorted out :fp:

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Saw Detective Pikachu this afternoon. Really enjoyed it. Felt a little short but that's probably due to watching Endgame recently.

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Early reaction to Godzilla King of the Monsters are excellent.... Also John Wick 3 is at 97% on Rotten Tomatoes.

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