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Re: N64 Classic Mini Incoming... Probably!

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:45 am
by Cheeky Devlin
chanticleer wrote:A thought related to the current Smash link:

If Banjo-Kazooie are in Smash, perhaps Nintendo's held back producing the Mini N64 while agreements are set up between the two companies meaning that some of the golden era Rare games are included?

Really interesting that the games database on nintendo.co.uk now has listings for Banjo, Tooie, and Perfect Dark. Every other N64 game listed has been re-released on virtual console at some point. Hmm.

I've had that very suspicion for months now. Beyond N64 Mini stuff I'm very much expecting a GoldenEye announcement at some point in the future. Though beyond this leak I have nothing to support this other than a gut feeling I've had since just before E3.

Re: N64 Classic Mini Incoming... Probably!

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:15 am
by Herdanos
chanticleer wrote:A thought related to the current Smash link:

If Banjo-Kazooie are in Smash, perhaps Nintendo's held back producing the Mini N64 while agreements are set up between the two companies meaning that some of the golden era Rare games are included?

Really interesting that the games database on nintendo.co.uk now has listings for Banjo, Tooie, and Perfect Dark. Every other N64 game listed has been re-released on virtual console at some point. Hmm.


There are a few others on there that have never been rereleased in any form. I wonder why they're on there?

Re: N64 Classic Mini Incoming... Probably!

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:25 am
by The Alchemist Penguin
The controllers for the Classic series have have been really authentic to the originals, but I do hope they modernise the control stick on the N64 Mini to some extent. It would suck if it had the same "wears out over time" flaw that the originals did.

Re: N64 Classic Mini Incoming... Probably!

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:06 pm
by Jenuall
Just reading over the last few pages of this thread. UK gamers in their 30s who don't know the beauty of the Sinclair ZX Spectrum?! :shock:

Hang your heads in shame!

Re: N64 Classic Mini Incoming... Probably!

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:38 pm
by Preezy
Jenuall wrote:Just reading over the last few pages of this thread. UK gamers in their 30s who don't know the beauty of the Sinclair ZX Spectrum?! :shock:

Hang your heads in shame!

I'm approaching my 33rd birthday and I'm afraid to say I've never played on anything older than an Atari 2600 :oops: Never played on a BBC Micro, a Spectrum, a C64 or anything else of that era.

I blame my parents for moving to the Middle East for a big chunk of my childhood years - it was a brief stint with the 2600 and then straight into Mega Drive town :datass:

Re: N64 Classic Mini Incoming... Probably!

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:42 pm
by jawafour
Preezy wrote:...a brief stint with the 2600 and then straight into Mega Drive town :datass:

Blimey, that was quite the technological leap, Preezy! The 2600 was circa 1978 whilst the MD was here in 1990... not only around a twelve-year gap but, at the time, the advances of each new machine were way more visible, too.

Re: N64 Classic Mini Incoming... Probably!

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:43 pm
by Christopher
Preezy wrote:
Jenuall wrote:Just reading over the last few pages of this thread. UK gamers in their 30s who don't know the beauty of the Sinclair ZX Spectrum?! :shock:

Hang your heads in shame!

I'm approaching my 33rd birthday and I'm afraid to say I've never played on anything older than an Atari 2600 :oops: Never played on a BBC Micro, a Spectrum, a C64 or anything else of that era.

I blame my parents for moving to the Middle East for a big chunk of my childhood years - it was a brief stint with the 2600 and then straight into Mega Drive town :datass:



There’s not a lot older than the 2600 to be fair, nothing you’d want to play anyway. Gaming prior to 1977 is quite gooseberry fool.

Re: N64 Classic Mini Incoming... Probably!

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:45 pm
by Herdanos
https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Search/Searc ... -34-52&p=2

I count twenty games on that site that have full listings - game details, videos, etc - that have only ever been released on the N64 (on Nintendo consoles anyway).

It also seems that the games chosen are rather random, as they're not all first-party published.

I would like to speculate that this is evidence for these games forming part of the line-up of a Mini N64 but it seems... too generous?

But I really can't figure out why else these specific games are on there.

The Turoks are there for example. No Goldeneye but lots of Rare games including JFG and Mickey's Speedway. Tony Hawks 2 and the Star Wars games. F1WGP. Ridge Racer 64.

What are they doing???

Re: N64 Classic Mini Incoming... Probably!

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:49 pm
by Preezy
jawafour wrote:
Preezy wrote:...a brief stint with the 2600 and then straight into Mega Drive town :datass:

Blimey, that was quite the technological leap, Preezy! The 2600 was circa 1978 whilst the MD was here in 1990... not only around a twelve-year gap but, at the time, the advances of each new machine were way more visible, too.

Sure was a leap, I went from playing these god-awful "games" on a box that resembled a Station Wagon, to suddenly having Sol Deace, Aladdin, Jurassic Park and Streets of Rage blasting out of my living room TV. It was glorious :datass:

Such halcyon days, long gone but never forgotten :wub: :cry:

Re: N64 Classic Mini Incoming... Probably!

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:03 pm
by Cheeky Devlin
Jenuall wrote:Just reading over the last few pages of this thread. UK gamers in their 30s who don't know the beauty of the Sinclair ZX Spectrum?! :shock:

Hang your heads in shame!

It's truly the shame of our generation. :(

The Spectrum, Amstrad and C64 always held a kind of strange fascination for me. I was too young to be part of their golden age and when we got our first computer it was a BBC (Mum was a teacher and Dad had access to loads of lovely pirated games), but two of my cousins had a Spectrum and C64 respectively so I got to see some of them in action and play a little bit.

I've been on a total nostalgia trip recently as well, so I'm definitely looking to pick up an older 8-Bit micro at some point. Definitely a Spectrum, maybe an Amstrad and for peak childhood memories a BBC Model B I think.

Re: N64 Classic Mini Incoming... Probably!

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:18 pm
by Jenuall
Cheeky Devlin wrote:
Jenuall wrote:Just reading over the last few pages of this thread. UK gamers in their 30s who don't know the beauty of the Sinclair ZX Spectrum?! :shock:

Hang your heads in shame!

It's truly the shame of our generation. :(

The Spectrum, Amstrad and C64 always held a kind of strange fascination for me. I was too young to be part of their golden age and when we got our first computer it was a BBC (Mum was a teacher and Dad had access to loads of lovely pirated games), but two of my cousins had a Spectrum and C64 respectively so I got to see some of them in action and play a little bit.

I've been on a total nostalgia trip recently as well, so I'm definitely looking to pick up an older 8-Bit micro at some point. Definitely a Spectrum, maybe an Amstrad and for peak childhood memories a BBC Model B I think.


We were a little late to the party in our house, not getting a Spectrum until the +3 came out in '87 but it still seemed incredible to my tiny eyes. Look ma the blocky, colour clashing pixels are jerking around the screen! It only took 12 minutes to load as well! :lol:

Despite always being a speccy lad at heart I did come to realise that, despite my best protestations, I had to admit the C64 was a superior machine... :cry:

Re: N64 Classic Mini Incoming... Probably!

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:24 pm
by jawafour
The C64 had better sound, colour and scrolling than the Spectrum, but the Speccy was better at vector graphics and had the faster processor. It was a fun time as their capabilities were different and this made games varied even though the machines were huge rivals. Throw in the Amstrad, BBC and many other lesser known competitors and it was a real golden age for variety. Digital Foundry comparisons would have been amazing back then!

Re: N64 Classic Mini Incoming... Probably!

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:31 pm
by Cheeky Devlin
jawafour wrote:The C64 had better sound, colour and scrolling than the Spectrum, but the Speccy was better at vector graphics and had the faster processor. It was a fun time as their capabilities were different and this made games varied even though the machines were huge rivals. Throw in the Amstrad, BBC and many other lesser known competitors and it was a real golden age for variety. Digital Foundry comparisons would have been amazing back then!

Totally.

It's kind of sad that everything got swallowed up and replaced by the PC (With Macs finding their own niche) as each of the old 8bit and 16bit systems really seem to have had their own character and quirks. But I guess it's better to have something that's basically a "Standard" to work from. Would be interesting to see how things evolved if PC's had stayed as hugely expensive machines used exclusively for business and research.

Re: N64 Classic Mini Incoming... Probably!

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:43 pm
by Moggy
jawafour wrote:The C64 had better sound, colour and scrolling than the Spectrum, but the Speccy was better at vector graphics and had the faster processor. It was a fun time as their capabilities were different and this made games varied even though the machines were huge rivals. Throw in the Amstrad, BBC and many other lesser known competitors and it was a real golden age for variety. Digital Foundry comparisons would have been amazing back then!


Yes but C64 kids were the cool ones. Speccy kids were inferior plebs and Amstrad kids were the lowest of the low.

Don’t get me started on the BBC weirdos.

Re: N64 Classic Mini Incoming... Probably!

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:50 pm
by Cheeky Devlin
Moggy wrote:
jawafour wrote:The C64 had better sound, colour and scrolling than the Spectrum, but the Speccy was better at vector graphics and had the faster processor. It was a fun time as their capabilities were different and this made games varied even though the machines were huge rivals. Throw in the Amstrad, BBC and many other lesser known competitors and it was a real golden age for variety. Digital Foundry comparisons would have been amazing back then!


Yes but C64 kids were the cool ones. Speccy kids were inferior plebs and Amstrad kids were the lowest of the low.

Don’t get me started on the BBC weirdos.

:(

To be fair very few of my friends and I had computers. By the time we started getting interested in them (89/90ish) stuff like the NES, Master System and Mega Drive were more common and the few that did have computers tended to have Amigas (Though I don't remember ever wanting one). The BBC I had was great though. It was where I first played a lot of classic arcade games, either through ports or clones. Plus it had Elite and Chuckie Egg. 8-)

Re: N64 Classic Mini Incoming... Probably!

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:52 pm
by Herdanos
Quantum Name wrote:So, the Classic N64 Mini anyone?

Re: N64 Classic Mini Incoming... Probably!

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:59 pm
by Moggy
Cheeky Devlin wrote:
Moggy wrote:
jawafour wrote:The C64 had better sound, colour and scrolling than the Spectrum, but the Speccy was better at vector graphics and had the faster processor. It was a fun time as their capabilities were different and this made games varied even though the machines were huge rivals. Throw in the Amstrad, BBC and many other lesser known competitors and it was a real golden age for variety. Digital Foundry comparisons would have been amazing back then!


Yes but C64 kids were the cool ones. Speccy kids were inferior plebs and Amstrad kids were the lowest of the low.

Don’t get me started on the BBC weirdos.

:(

To be fair very few of my friends and I had computers. By the time we started getting interested in them (89/90ish) stuff like the NES, Master System and Mega Drive were more common and the few that did have computers tended to have Amigas (Though I don't remember ever wanting one). The BBC I had was great though. It was where I first played a lot of classic arcade games, either through ports or clones. Plus it had Elite and Chuckie Egg. 8-)


I only ever knew saw BBC microcomputers at school. I don’t remember anybody actually having one at home.

Re: N64 Classic Mini Incoming... Probably!

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:00 pm
by Moggy
Quantum Name wrote:
Quantum Name wrote:So, the Classic N64 Mini anyone?


When it's announced then we will talk about it. At the moment it is a figment of your imagination.

And the Gamecube Classic Mini will be better. Especially if they make the discs even smaller than the ones the GC had. :wub:

Re: N64 Classic Mini Incoming... Probably!

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:15 pm
by Ironhide
Moggy wrote:
jawafour wrote:The C64 had better sound, colour and scrolling than the Spectrum, but the Speccy was better at vector graphics and had the faster processor. It was a fun time as their capabilities were different and this made games varied even though the machines were huge rivals. Throw in the Amstrad, BBC and many other lesser known competitors and it was a real golden age for variety. Digital Foundry comparisons would have been amazing back then!


Yes but C64 kids were the cool ones. Speccy kids were inferior plebs and Amstrad kids were the lowest of the low.

Don’t get me started on the BBC weirdos.


I always thought the kids who had 'home computers' were weird losers for putting up with gooseberry fool graphics, ridiculous load times and god awful controllers.

Re: N64 Classic Mini Incoming... Probably!

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:22 pm
by jawafour
Ironhide wrote:I always thought the kids who had 'home computers' were weird losers for putting up with gooseberry fool graphics, ridiculous load times and god awful controllers.

There were dozens of us... DOZENS, Ironhide! :x ;) .

8 bit "home computers" *were* the gaming scene in the UK in the period circa 1982 through 1988, with the 16 bit versions taking the battle against the rise of the consoles. I get mildly agitated when this history is washed over by the (generally) US-based gaming media :x .