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by No:1 Final Fantasy Fan » Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:42 pm

I watched part 1 and bits of part 2. I was left rather speechless. Like you question them and their families motives for getting together to make such accusations and you sort of swing towards maybe believing them.
But then you realise how one sided this is and at the same time a lot of them lacked emotion. Particularly the mums being all cheerful and then Wade just sounds like he's reading a list of sexual actitivies.

After taking time to reflect I would still stick to my belief that MJ is innocent however I won't call them liars as I don't know.
It will be interesting to see how people react over the coming days.

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PostRe: New MJ documentary
by Gemini73 » Fri Mar 08, 2019 1:49 pm

N1FFF, are you one of those people who demand disabled people prove their disability when they step out of their car at Tesco as opposed to just falling flat on their face and crawl to the store?

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by Moggy » Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:08 pm

No:1 Final Fantasy Fan wrote:But then you realise how one sided this is and at the same time a lot of them lacked emotion. Particularly the mums being all cheerful and then Wade just sounds like he's reading a list of sexual actitivies.


PTSD victims often act numb and emotionless.

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by floydfreak » Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:11 pm

who will ever forget this from the Martin Bashir documentary


:slol: :slol: :slol:

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by Rocsteady » Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:02 pm

That's probably the most offensive thing that's been posted in here yet

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by Moggy » Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:13 pm



:lol:

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by No:1 Final Fantasy Fan » Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:28 pm



Good to see people remaining neutral still even after watching both parts of this so called documentary rather than being vindictive and accusing MJ

Saw an awful tweet from Louis Theroux saying people who still believe MJ is innocent are willfully being blind. As a professional documetary maker he is not being very neutral on this case is he? I have lost all respect for Louis Theroux and can never watch one of his documentaries the same way again because of how biased he actually is. What a fake!

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by Gemini73 » Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:03 pm

Michael Jackson's close friend and bestest of the best buddy "He's innocent I tell thee!"

Saw an awful tweet from Louis Theroux saying people who still believe MJ is innocent are willfully being blind


Thing is, he's right. The fact you're not even open to the slightest possibility that MJ sexually assaulted those children demonstrates this.

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by No:1 Final Fantasy Fan » Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:10 pm

Gemini73 wrote:Michael Jackson's close friend and bestest of the best buddy "He's innocent I tell thee!"

Saw an awful tweet from Louis Theroux saying people who still believe MJ is innocent are willfully being blind


Thing is, he's right. The fact you're not even open to the slightest possibility that MJ sexually assaulted those children demonstrates this.

Lorraine Kelly is being pretty chill about it too.

Close friend yes! Someone who actually knew MJ so he has credibility.

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by Gemini73 » Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:16 pm

No:1 Final Fantasy Fan wrote:
Close friend yes! Someone who actually knew MJ so he has credibility.


If anything it will give him more reason to not believe that his "friend" could commit such an act due to his own bias. I mean, who wants to believe that their friend whom they loved and trusted was, in fact, a pedophile? No more than a die hard MJ fan wants to believe the king of pop abused children I bet.

Sorry N1FFF, but I think you're being incredibly naive.

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PostRe: New MJ documentary
by Tomous » Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:22 pm

Moggy wrote:

:lol:



Hang on, is LT responding to convincted paedophile Jonathan King there? :slol: :fp:

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by Lex-Man » Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:35 pm

There was a interview with a guy who was a friend with MJ when he was a kid. At one point MJ started wanking on the phone while talking to him. The kid ended up telling a school friend and then the other kids dad sold the story to the papers.

Personally that's the story that most convinces me that MJ is a pedo as it's a story from somebody who never sued MJ or tried to make money out of the story but shows that MJ did some weird gooseberry fool. I don't think it'll ever be proved 100% but I'm fairly convinced that it's true.

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by Poser » Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:56 pm

Lex-Man wrote:There was a interview with a guy who was a friend with MJ when he was a kid. At one point MJ started wanking on the phone while talking to him. The kid ended up telling a school friend and then the other kids dad sold the story to the papers.

Personally that's the story that most convinces me that MJ is a pedo as it's a story from somebody who never sued MJ or tried to make money out of the story but shows that MJ did some weird gooseberry fool. I don't think it'll ever be proved 100% but I'm fairly convinced that it's true.


I heard that as well. It was my brother's mate, but he goes to a different school so you wouldn't know him.

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by Lex-Man » Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:03 pm

Poser wrote:
Lex-Man wrote:There was a interview with a guy who was a friend with MJ when he was a kid. At one point MJ started wanking on the phone while talking to him. The kid ended up telling a school friend and then the other kids dad sold the story to the papers.

Personally that's the story that most convinces me that MJ is a pedo as it's a story from somebody who never sued MJ or tried to make money out of the story but shows that MJ did some weird gooseberry fool. I don't think it'll ever be proved 100% but I'm fairly convinced that it's true.


I heard that as well. It was my brother's mate, but he goes to a different school so you wouldn't know him.


I think I found the story, although it appears to be a bit different to what I said.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity- ... ion-402845

Terry George leapt up excitedly as the phone rang. It was 9pm and he knew exactly who it would be… the most unlikely best friend a 13-year-old boy could have.

It was none other than his pop idol Michael Jackson, who had been calling his Leeds home like clockwork for the past five months after striking up a bizarre relationship.

But this time the besotted young fan’s excitement soon turned to shock and embarrassment as Jacko’s voice crackled down the line.

“He’d ring at 9pm on the dot three times a week and we became like best friends,” Terry recalled. “But on this night he sounded different. The line went quiet and I asked if he was still there.

“Then, suddenly out of nowhere, he asked me if I masturbated and that if I did, did I use cream? I was puzzled

and said no. I said I didn’t know what he meant.

“When I paused he said, ‘Would you believe that I am doing it right now?’ and I could hear down the line he was making strange noises. It made me feel confused and uncomfortable.”


The guy clearly isn't after MJ's cash, so I find his story more believable.

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by Squinty » Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:58 am

I was speaking to someone last night about MJ, and they were of the opinion that he should be left alone because he's dead. That's an utterly idiotic position.

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by Parksey » Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:58 am

That testimony wouldn't hold up in court though. No-one's going to believe a 13 year old boy doesn't know what wanking is.

It's just a good job he's too young to be bald otherwise he'd get run out of town.

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by Gemini73 » Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:07 am

Squinty wrote:I was speaking to someone last night about MJ, and they were of the opinion that he should be left alone because he's dead. That's an utterly idiotic position.


Do they feel the same about Saville? He's dead, he never went to trial even.

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by Poser » Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:42 am

Lex-Man wrote:
Poser wrote:
Lex-Man wrote:There was a interview with a guy who was a friend with MJ when he was a kid. At one point MJ started wanking on the phone while talking to him. The kid ended up telling a school friend and then the other kids dad sold the story to the papers.

Personally that's the story that most convinces me that MJ is a pedo as it's a story from somebody who never sued MJ or tried to make money out of the story but shows that MJ did some weird gooseberry fool. I don't think it'll ever be proved 100% but I'm fairly convinced that it's true.


I heard that as well. It was my brother's mate, but he goes to a different school so you wouldn't know him.


I think I found the story, although it appears to be a bit different to what I said.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity- ... ion-402845

Terry George leapt up excitedly as the phone rang. It was 9pm and he knew exactly who it would be… the most unlikely best friend a 13-year-old boy could have.

It was none other than his pop idol Michael Jackson, who had been calling his Leeds home like clockwork for the past five months after striking up a bizarre relationship.

But this time the besotted young fan’s excitement soon turned to shock and embarrassment as Jacko’s voice crackled down the line.

“He’d ring at 9pm on the dot three times a week and we became like best friends,” Terry recalled. “But on this night he sounded different. The line went quiet and I asked if he was still there.

“Then, suddenly out of nowhere, he asked me if I masturbated and that if I did, did I use cream? I was puzzled

and said no. I said I didn’t know what he meant.

“When I paused he said, ‘Would you believe that I am doing it right now?’ and I could hear down the line he was making strange noises. It made me feel confused and uncomfortable.”


The guy clearly isn't after MJ's cash, so I find his story more believable.


Cheers for the link. I wasn't doubting you, just for the record.


I watched the first part of the doc last night. There's no doubt in my mind now, for a number of reasons.

To those saying these guys have previously said there was no abuse: they didn't believe they'd been abused. Safechuck, in particular, was completely besotted. His family, equally, were infatuated. It's possible for adults to be manipulated and seduced too.

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by Parksey » Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:49 am

Also let's be honest, someone saying they were abused in the past surely doesn't constitute as an absolute absence of any abuse, in a criminal sense.

If you walked in to a shop, the windows were smash, debris was strewn all over the floor and there were no products on the shelves, then even if the owner said he thought no burglay has taken place, you'd be pretty suspicious.

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by Squinty » Sat Mar 09, 2019 10:35 am

Gemini73 wrote:
Squinty wrote:I was speaking to someone last night about MJ, and they were of the opinion that he should be left alone because he's dead. That's an utterly idiotic position.


Do they feel the same about Saville? He's dead, he never went to trial even.


I raised that. The argument fell apart, only MJ shouldn't be subjected to this for some bizarre as strawberry float reason. People are dumb.


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