Star Trek Discovery

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PostRe: Star Trek Discovery
by Tafdolphin » Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:08 pm

Lagamorph wrote:
Rudolphin wrote:Discovery is ace and you lot want something that will never again exist, the idea of which is already distorted by nostalgia

fight me

Nah.

Discovery is serviceable Sci-Fi but isn't good Star Trek.
Star Trek is supposed to portray a generally positive and optimistic outcome for the future, Discovery is the opposite of that. And despite promises that lessons would be learned, things would be different going forward and actual apologies for how Season 1 had gone, it's looking like Season 3 will be more of the same grimdark setting that we've seen in almost every sci-fi series since Battlestar Galactica.


The new films didn't

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PostRe: Star Trek Discovery
by Lagamorph » Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:10 pm

Rudolphin wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:
Rudolphin wrote:Discovery is ace and you lot want something that will never again exist, the idea of which is already distorted by nostalgia

fight me

Nah.

Discovery is serviceable Sci-Fi but isn't good Star Trek.
Star Trek is supposed to portray a generally positive and optimistic outcome for the future, Discovery is the opposite of that. And despite promises that lessons would be learned, things would be different going forward and actual apologies for how Season 1 had gone, it's looking like Season 3 will be more of the same grimdark setting that we've seen in almost every sci-fi series since Battlestar Galactica.


The new films didn't

They were in a completely different timeline which excuses the differences there. Discovery is supposed to be in the same timeline as the other TV series.
And even then they were still more hopeful/optimistic than Discovery has ever gotten

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PostRe: Star Trek Discovery
by Peter Crisp » Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:11 pm

Rudolphin wrote:Discovery is ace and you lot want something that will never again exist, the idea of which is already distorted by nostalgia

fight me


I'm not sure that's true.
The Orville is pretty much TNG with a few jokes thrown in (the jokes are toned down as the show goes on and but are still about) and shows that a brighter outlook for the future is still viable.
I think a more upbeat sci-fi show will always exist and even DS9 which had some pretty heavy stories overall had a positive outlook for the future.

Yes, doom and gloom seem to be the order of the day at them moment but good stories set in a more positive outlook for the future will always have a place.

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PostRe: Star Trek Discovery
by Tafdolphin » Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:11 pm

Lagamorph wrote:
Rudolphin wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:
Rudolphin wrote:Discovery is ace and you lot want something that will never again exist, the idea of which is already distorted by nostalgia

fight me

Nah.

Discovery is serviceable Sci-Fi but isn't good Star Trek.
Star Trek is supposed to portray a generally positive and optimistic outcome for the future, Discovery is the opposite of that. And despite promises that lessons would be learned, things would be different going forward and actual apologies for how Season 1 had gone, it's looking like Season 3 will be more of the same grimdark setting that we've seen in almost every sci-fi series since Battlestar Galactica.


The new films didn't

They were in a completely different timeline which excuses the differences there. Discovery is supposed to be in the same timeline as the other TV series.
And even then they were still more hopeful/optimistic than Discovery has ever gotten


...and you've lost me.

There's more than enough to criticise about Disco, it's certainly got its flaws as a piece of entertainment media, but "Not My Star Trek" is poppycock.

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