Star Trek Discovery

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PostRe: Star Trek Discovery
by Lagamorph » Sat Oct 05, 2019 7:52 pm

Somebody Else's Problem wrote:The strawberry float are you banging on about? There's no canon at that point to mess with, and I think you're just being miserable for the sake of it.

They're barely a hundred years past the 31st Century Federation we see in Enterprise, yet they talk as if the Federation has been strawberry floated and gone for way longer than that.

Even then, something as vast as the Federation isn't going to implode and utterly collapse in on itself in barely a century.

This is less "Star Trek" and more "Yet another generic dystopian sci-fi show"

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PostRe: Star Trek Discovery
by Karl_ » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:05 pm

Star Trek was never "hard" sci fi, the timeline doesn't have to make a lot of sense imo. (Though certainly I see the inconsistencies don't help.)

What makes Star Trek unique is its optimistic view of humanity's future - as fundamentally democratic, peaceful, etc. - and I think you can argue that is lacking in Discovery for sure.

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PostRe: Star Trek Discovery
by Somebody Else's Problem » Sun Oct 06, 2019 6:35 am

Karl_ wrote:What makes Star Trek unique is its optimistic view of humanity's future - as fundamentally democratic, peaceful, etc. - and I think you can argue that is lacking in Discovery for sure.


You could argue it was lacking in DS9, too.

And an empire can easily be lost in a century, given a large enough threat. Seeing as everything we've seen of the Federation shows it to be largely Earth-based, it would be easy to cut the head off, as it were.

Hell, Captain Braxton could have gotten pissed off at being arrested and Annoraxed the gooseberry fool out of the Federation.

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PostRe: Star Trek Discovery
by Karl_ » Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:07 am

Somebody Else's Problem wrote:
Karl_ wrote:What makes Star Trek unique is its optimistic view of humanity's future - as fundamentally democratic, peaceful, etc. - and I think you can argue that is lacking in Discovery for sure.


You could argue it was lacking in DS9, too.


I suppose you could. I haven't seen much of DS9, but I definitely preferred TNG to the bits I did see.

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PostRe: Star Trek Discovery
by Peter Crisp » Sun Oct 06, 2019 11:16 am

I think the difference between DS9 and Discovery is that DS9 was focused on the story and had combat as a side note while Discovery focuses on combat and the story seems secondary. DS9 also had some terrifically good episodes like episode about defending an outpost where Nog (RIP to a terrific actor) loses his leg that I can't see Discovery doing.

I agree with Karl that Star Trek is supposed to be a hopeful view of humanity in the future not the gritty and depressing future we see in Discovery. I still enjoy Discovery I just don't think it fits in very well with the overall Star Trek universe.

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PostRe: Star Trek Discovery
by captain red dog » Sun Oct 06, 2019 11:27 am

Yeah chalk me up for another that wants to see Star Trek return to its core ethos of a positive view of the future. Discovery has been too distopian, and against other distopian sci fi it is reasonably average.

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PostRe: Star Trek Discovery
by Monkey Man » Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:48 pm


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PostRe: Star Trek Discovery
by Cheeky Devlin » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:20 pm

What does that mean for Netflix? Is this just for broadcast TV because strawberry float watching it with ad breaks.

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PostRe: Star Trek Discovery
by Return_of_the_STAR » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:33 pm

Hmmmn I wonder if thats starting with season one and Netflix still have first dibs

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PostRe: Star Trek Discovery
by Lagamorph » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:38 pm

Pretty sure it's just the terrestrial broadcast rights and will be starting with Season 1. Broadcast rights are usually separate from streaming rights.

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