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Re: Star Trek Discovery

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:08 pm
by Tafdolphin
Lagamorph wrote:
Rudolphin wrote:Discovery is ace and you lot want something that will never again exist, the idea of which is already distorted by nostalgia

fight me

Nah.

Discovery is serviceable Sci-Fi but isn't good Star Trek.
Star Trek is supposed to portray a generally positive and optimistic outcome for the future, Discovery is the opposite of that. And despite promises that lessons would be learned, things would be different going forward and actual apologies for how Season 1 had gone, it's looking like Season 3 will be more of the same grimdark setting that we've seen in almost every sci-fi series since Battlestar Galactica.


The new films didn't

Re: Star Trek Discovery

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:10 pm
by Lagamorph
Rudolphin wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:
Rudolphin wrote:Discovery is ace and you lot want something that will never again exist, the idea of which is already distorted by nostalgia

fight me

Nah.

Discovery is serviceable Sci-Fi but isn't good Star Trek.
Star Trek is supposed to portray a generally positive and optimistic outcome for the future, Discovery is the opposite of that. And despite promises that lessons would be learned, things would be different going forward and actual apologies for how Season 1 had gone, it's looking like Season 3 will be more of the same grimdark setting that we've seen in almost every sci-fi series since Battlestar Galactica.


The new films didn't

They were in a completely different timeline which excuses the differences there. Discovery is supposed to be in the same timeline as the other TV series.
And even then they were still more hopeful/optimistic than Discovery has ever gotten

Re: Star Trek Discovery

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:11 pm
by Peter Crisp
Rudolphin wrote:Discovery is ace and you lot want something that will never again exist, the idea of which is already distorted by nostalgia

fight me


I'm not sure that's true.
The Orville is pretty much TNG with a few jokes thrown in (the jokes are toned down as the show goes on and but are still about) and shows that a brighter outlook for the future is still viable.
I think a more upbeat sci-fi show will always exist and even DS9 which had some pretty heavy stories overall had a positive outlook for the future.

Yes, doom and gloom seem to be the order of the day at them moment but good stories set in a more positive outlook for the future will always have a place.

Re: Star Trek Discovery

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:11 pm
by Tafdolphin
Lagamorph wrote:
Rudolphin wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:
Rudolphin wrote:Discovery is ace and you lot want something that will never again exist, the idea of which is already distorted by nostalgia

fight me

Nah.

Discovery is serviceable Sci-Fi but isn't good Star Trek.
Star Trek is supposed to portray a generally positive and optimistic outcome for the future, Discovery is the opposite of that. And despite promises that lessons would be learned, things would be different going forward and actual apologies for how Season 1 had gone, it's looking like Season 3 will be more of the same grimdark setting that we've seen in almost every sci-fi series since Battlestar Galactica.


The new films didn't

They were in a completely different timeline which excuses the differences there. Discovery is supposed to be in the same timeline as the other TV series.
And even then they were still more hopeful/optimistic than Discovery has ever gotten


...and you've lost me.

There's more than enough to criticise about Disco, it's certainly got its flaws as a piece of entertainment media, but "Not My Star Trek" is poppycock.

Re: Star Trek Discovery

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:26 pm
by Monkey Man


Returns 15th October.

Re: Star Trek Discovery

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:06 pm
by Hexx
Burnham going to found the New Federation :fp:

Re: Star Trek Discovery

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:09 pm
by Squinty
I like the new hairstyle :wub:

Re: Star Trek Discovery

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:09 pm
by Mafro
Another whole series to make Hexx seethe.

Re: Star Trek Discovery

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:15 pm
by Peter Crisp
Hexx wrote:Burnham going to found the New Federation :fp:


Headquartered in Luton obviously.

Re: Star Trek Discovery

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:28 pm
by Karl_
Hexxposting is the best thing about any new Star Trek series.

Re: Star Trek Discovery

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:39 pm
by Peter Crisp
So, this is set after the era of the time agents so they're either going to have to have almost godlike technology or almost bugger all in a future helscape.

Re: Star Trek Discovery

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:09 am
by Hexx
Too mean :cry: :cry:

Re: Star Trek Discovery

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:10 am
by Tafdolphin


New trailer

I...huh. I really don't like the "The Federation was a perfect entity that must be resurrected as opposed to something new and better coming out of the ashes" angle. At all. And Burnham being cast as an almost religious zealot.

HUM.

Re: Star Trek Discovery

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:19 am
by Peter Crisp
I've said it before but while I liked the show it wasn't very Star Treky (I hope that makes sense) and I think could have worked better as a standalone series without the Trek baggage and people nitpicking about lore.
I'm also still not a fan of swearing, sexual scenes and needless violence in Trek.
Sure DS9 had violence and sexual scenes but they were always infrequent and part of a story and not just constant.

Trek is supposed to be at least somewhat family viewing which I can't say for Discovery or Picard.

A shame really.

Re: Star Trek Discovery

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:21 am
by Imrahil
Making things "dark and edgy!" seems to be the go-to process for most things these days.

Re: Star Trek Discovery

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:00 am
by Dual
Can't wait. That new hairstyle is [FIREEMOJI] [FIREEMOJI]

Re: Star Trek Discovery

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2020 1:17 am
by Monkey Man


Opening 2 minutes of the new season which starts next Friday.

Re: Star Trek Discovery

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:43 am
by Monkey Man
1st episode of Season 3 is out now online. Friday on Netflix UK.

Re: Star Trek Discovery

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:27 am
by Sandy
Tafdolphin wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:And even then they were still more hopeful/optimistic than Discovery has ever gotten


...and you've lost me.

There's more than enough to criticise about Disco, it's certainly got its flaws as a piece of entertainment media, but "Not My Star Trek" is poppycock.


Laga is saying that the Star Trek films are in a different universe than the TV series is. This was to do with some time travel mojo at the start of the film and it created a "did happen / didn't happen" fork. The films take one fork and the TV series took the other fork.

That said, I never understand why people just want media to remain the same forever without ever changing. If that's the case just watch the series that fits your preference over and over.

Same with people that moan about film adaptation or TV adaptation of a book not being exactly like the book. Why would you want that? You've read the strawberry floating book so you know what happens.

Re: Star Trek Discovery

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:40 pm
by Xeno
Seems Disco got another season. They will start filming in November.

I was not a fan of the first episode. Just seemed meh and all the action did bugger all for me, I was more interested in the cat.