Next Gen Xbox - Rumours and Discussion

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PostRe: Next Gen Xbox - Rumours and Discussion
by Monkey Man » Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:12 pm



Wrapping up, we are left with the sense that Microsoft's pitch for the future of gaming, based on its hardware design at least, is very close to Sony's: the best that AMD can offer, paired with extremely fast storage which opens up a wealth of opportunity in using the surrounding architecture in groundbreaking ways.

The firm is also strongly advocating its back-compat credentials with support for all Xbox console generations - a promise we know it can deliver based on its impeccable track record. 120Hz support? Variable refresh? It's good to see these namechecked, but 8K? Well there's no reason why the reconstruction techniques of today can't scale up to higher resolutions tomorrow - but in truth, in the age of temporal super-sampling and other 'smart upscaling' technologies, I'm not sure that higher pixel counts are 100 per cent synonymous with a guarantee of better image quality any more.

Put simply, there's a better use for GPU power - especially if onboard solid-state storage can genuinely provide a vast pool of 'virtual memory' capable of delivering more detail, bigger, more contiguous worlds and more immersion. And with both Sony and Microsoft making the same bet on SSDs, it seems that this is almost certainly the way forward in delivering a next generation gaming experience.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digi ... c-analysis

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PostRe: Next Gen Xbox - Rumours and Discussion
by KK » Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:39 pm

Killing off long load times will be great, but something games haven't had a problem with dating back to probably GTA San Andreas is "bigger worlds". They're already big enough! Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Give me a world the size of Vice City, Shenmue, Yakuza etc and really pack it full of interesting stuff is the route I hope most developers go down.

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PostRe: Next Gen Xbox - Rumours and Discussion
by Monkey Man » Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:23 pm



Still in development but unclear if it will ship yet, $60-$80.

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by Peter Crisp » Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:33 pm

I have a feeling the full spec reveal will be pushed into next year. The start of February would seem like a good time.

jiggles wrote:Nobody with a VR headset is going to be using it regularly this time next year, let alone in 4 years time.


Posted 16th March 2016. Let's see.
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PostRe: Next Gen Xbox - Rumours and Discussion
by Monkey Man » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:03 am



Also Gears Dev mentioned dedicated Ray Tracing again -

Also on the subject of hardware, Penty said he is "definitely super excited" about the forthcoming release of Microsoft's next-generation console, Project Scarlett, in Holiday 2020. "We don’t have anything to announce right now in terms of Gears with the new hardware--but I’m definitely super excited about what the new hardware could do. Having dedicated raytracing hardware is huge," he said.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/why-g ... 0-6469734/

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by Peter Crisp » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:33 pm

As much as I'm interested in Ray Tracing everything I've seen about it suggests it's a huge power hog and I'd rather they just upgrade the current graphics techniques and have a super silky framerate and upgraded AI.
If the new machines do have the power required then great but at the moment even the top end PC graphics cards are not exactly coping with ray tracing well so I'm not sure whatever tech they manage to afford for a console will be enough.
The next 6 months when they reveal all and digital foundry can do some decent examinations of the hardware should tell us all if Ray Tracing will be a thing that'll actually be used or just something the manufacturers say it can do but never gets implemented in games which is what I think will happen with 8K.

I'd be more interested in info about an actual affordable consumer version of Hololense.

jiggles wrote:Nobody with a VR headset is going to be using it regularly this time next year, let alone in 4 years time.


Posted 16th March 2016. Let's see.
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PostRe: Next Gen Xbox - Rumours and Discussion
by Photek » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:33 pm

The rumours are the Next Xbox has a custom dedicated bespoke Ray Tracing chip/chipset that’s apart from the main GPU, CPU and RAM Innards. .

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PostRe: Next Gen Xbox - Rumours and Discussion
by Peter Crisp » Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:44 am

I wonder if they'll release a diskless version of next gen at launch or will they wait for the inevitable slim overhaul and opt for a real monster size reduction?
I know I'll be getting any next gen with a disc drive simply because I use Boomerang and but it could be interesting to see if they just use the same overall body or if they have a smaller diskless unit at launch and what the price difference is.

jiggles wrote:Nobody with a VR headset is going to be using it regularly this time next year, let alone in 4 years time.


Posted 16th March 2016. Let's see.
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PostRe: Next Gen Xbox - Rumours and Discussion
by more heat than light » Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:54 am

Peter Crisp wrote:I know I'll be getting any next gen with a disc drive simply because I use Boomerang


Wouldn't Game Pass do the same job?

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PostRe: Next Gen Xbox - Rumours and Discussion
by Peter Crisp » Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:25 am

more heat than light wrote:
Peter Crisp wrote:I know I'll be getting any next gen with a disc drive simply because I use Boomerang


Wouldn't Game Pass do the same job?


I have Game Pass as well and both subs compliment each other well.
There's not many games I have to buy now so my spending on games overall has tumbled recently.

jiggles wrote:Nobody with a VR headset is going to be using it regularly this time next year, let alone in 4 years time.


Posted 16th March 2016. Let's see.
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PostRe: Next Gen Xbox - Rumours and Discussion
by Meep » Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:13 pm

It would be amazing if I could buy a game on PC and take all the advantages of having a powerful gaming system at home and then stream the same game elsewhere on MS xcloud. With cloud saves this would be pretty simple to implement.


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