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Death's Head wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Death's Head wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Death's Head wrote:

jezhumphrey75 wrote:

Gemini73 wrote:So a couple of variations in the works then. One disc based, one not perhaps?

I can see 2 variations, for instance a new xbox s and x, x has bit more ram,ssd,higher clocks etc and only sold at a profit, S being the standard.

Both released together.

Please no. Just one version unless MS can promise that come end of the generation, all games on the base model will not suffer from performance issues.

I could see them offering a disc version and a download only version. I don’t think they’ll release different powered versions on launch though.

I can't really see the point of this minor difference. The cost of the drive is minimal and it would probably mean a separate production line to make a console with and without a disc drive.

Because it will get people used to being download only and will let them monopolise game sales in the future.

Buy a PC if you want download only. The future has been here for a while.

My answer wasn’t about what I wanted, I replied to your question as to what was the point of having a disc and a download version.

MS will not jump straight into a download only console (the reaction to the original Xbone plans will be fresh in their minds!). They will test the waters first by offering a cheaper download only console alongside a traditional physical media one.

Moggy wrote:

Death's Head wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Death's Head wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Death's Head wrote:

jezhumphrey75 wrote:

Gemini73 wrote:So a couple of variations in the works then. One disc based, one not perhaps?

I can see 2 variations, for instance a new xbox s and x, x has bit more ram,ssd,higher clocks etc and only sold at a profit, S being the standard.

Both released together.

Please no. Just one version unless MS can promise that come end of the generation, all games on the base model will not suffer from performance issues.

I could see them offering a disc version and a download only version. I don’t think they’ll release different powered versions on launch though.

I can't really see the point of this minor difference. The cost of the drive is minimal and it would probably mean a separate production line to make a console with and without a disc drive.

Because it will get people used to being download only and will let them monopolise game sales in the future.

Buy a PC if you want download only. The future has been here for a while.

My answer wasn’t about what I wanted, I replied to your question as to what was the point of having a disc and a download version.

MS will not jump straight into a download only console (the reaction to the original Xbone plans will be fresh in their minds!). They will test the waters first by offering a cheaper download only console alongside a traditional physical media one.

But there is very little saving to have a non disc version. If they did do this, it is going to be silly if they try to have a price difference of anything more than about £20. Unless there is a significant price difference you may as well just pay the little extra for the drive.

Death's Head wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Death's Head wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Death's Head wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Death's Head wrote:

jezhumphrey75 wrote:

Gemini73 wrote:So a couple of variations in the works then. One disc based, one not perhaps?

I can see 2 variations, for instance a new xbox s and x, x has bit more ram,ssd,higher clocks etc and only sold at a profit, S being the standard.

Both released together.

Please no. Just one version unless MS can promise that come end of the generation, all games on the base model will not suffer from performance issues.

I could see them offering a disc version and a download only version. I don’t think they’ll release different powered versions on launch though.

I can't really see the point of this minor difference. The cost of the drive is minimal and it would probably mean a separate production line to make a console with and without a disc drive.

Because it will get people used to being download only and will let them monopolise game sales in the future.

Buy a PC if you want download only. The future has been here for a while.

My answer wasn’t about what I wanted, I replied to your question as to what was the point of having a disc and a download version.

MS will not jump straight into a download only console (the reaction to the original Xbone plans will be fresh in their minds!). They will test the waters first by offering a cheaper download only console alongside a traditional physical media one.

But there is very little saving to have a non disc version. If they did do this, it is going to be silly if they try to have a price difference of anything more than about £20. Unless there is a significant price difference you may as well just pay the little extra for the drive.

There’s little saving on the cost of the drive. But there’s a massive profit to be made by getting people to only use the digital store. They’d be willing to take a hit on the price of the console if it meant big profits on the sales of Store only games.

Even though I have the internet to support it, if there is a download only version of the console and a disc based version of the console I'll be going for the disc version. I don't think the time is right yet for a download only console, there are too many people with poor internet speeds or data caps.

I still think we could be looking at a 2020 release although it would make for a really drawn out reveal process.
All they said was it's in development and we all knew that already. They showed zero game footage and didn't give a release date both of which could have happened (even if just short technical test footage) if it was expected next Christmas.
There's also plenty of games for this gen coming next year anyway.

I'm happy that the next gen is being talked about openly but am more and more confident it will be 2020.

Peter Crisp wrote:I still think we could be looking at a 2020 release although it would make for a really drawn out reveal process.
All they said was it's in development and we all knew that already. They showed zero game footage and didn't give a release date both of which could have happened (even if just short technical test footage) if it was expected next Christmas.
There's also plenty of games for this gen coming next year anyway.

I'm happy that the next gen is being talked about openly but am more and more confident it will be 2020.

I was thinking 2021/22, but MS mentioning it makes me think it could be 2020.

Lagamorph wrote:Even though I have the internet to support it, if there is a download only version of the console and a disc based version of the console I'll be going for the disc version. I don't think the time is right yet for a download only console, there are too many people with poor internet speeds or data caps.

Don't worry, MS has your back. Got the download only version and want disc access? For just $199 they will sell you an HD-DVD drive to future proof your investment.

This could be a rubbish solution but could they make a cable that connects the xbox one to the next gen console and use the blue ray drive of the Xbox One?

Peter Crisp wrote:This could be a rubbish solution but could they make a cable that connects the xbox one to the next gen console and use the blue ray drive of the Xbox One?

Agreed.

Rubbish solution.

Death's Head wrote:

Peter Crisp wrote:This could be a rubbish solution but could they make a cable that connects the xbox one to the next gen console and use the blue ray drive of the Xbox One?

Agreed.

Rubbish solution.

Moggy wrote:

Death's Head wrote:

Peter Crisp wrote:This could be a rubbish solution but could they make a cable that connects the xbox one to the next gen console and use the blue ray drive of the Xbox One?

Agreed.

Rubbish solution.

Oh .

New consoles... DOn't care.

Was I the only one who found it a bit tasteless to mention a new gen console just months after releasing a £400+ mid gen upgrade?

Pedz wrote:New consoles... DOn't care.

He's at it again!

I wonder when the first details about devkits will get released?
I'm assuming they're just modified PC's but it'll be interesting to see what sort of hardware the platform holders think will be available.

Photek wrote:

Pedz wrote:New consoles... DOn't care.

He's at it again!

In all seriousness, it's not that I don't care. I'm just in no rush. I have a PS4 with plenty of games to play, I have an X with plenty of games to play and a PC also with plenty of games to play. Personally, I could do with a good few years before next gen.

The Watching Artist wrote:Was I the only one who found it a bit tasteless to mention a new gen console just months after releasing a £400+ mid gen upgrade?

Unfortunately, the consoles are moving closer to the phone model. What will be interesting is if the consoles get out of synch with each of the major platforms (not including Nintendo in this) trumping the over every 2 years technology wise.

Pedz wrote:

Photek wrote:

Pedz wrote:New consoles... DOn't care.

He's at it again!

In all seriousness, it's not that I don't care. I'm just in no rush. I have a PS4 with plenty of games to play, I have an X with plenty of games to play and a PC also with plenty of games to play. Personally, I could do with a good few years before next gen.

The problem is, we don't set the pace. When the new consoles come out you are restricted to old games and if you want the latest releases, time to upgrade.

I'm thinking the main increase in next gen will be on the CPU and that hasn't changed much at all with the mid-gen refreshes.
I think the GPU will only have a comparatively small upgrade but as 4K will be the standard at least it will only be trying to improve on a resolution that those refreshes are currently struggling with.

Peter Crisp wrote:I'm thinking the main increase in next gen will be on the CPU and that hasn't changed much at all with the mid-gen refreshes.
I think the GPU will only have a comparatively small upgrade but as 4K will be the standard at least it will only be trying to improve on a resolution that those refreshes are currently struggling with.

In the PC, GPU is more important so if consoles use the same architecture, that will also need to be the priority.