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Re: Next Gen Xbox Consoles Confirmed - Codename Scarlet? (no hardware details yet)

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:02 pm
by Pedz
Is it? I thought games vary on how dependent they are on GPU or CPU like Dying light is a CPU heavy game and Rocket League is GPU.

Re: RE: Re: Next Gen Xbox Consoles Confirmed - Codename Scarlet? (no hardware details yet)

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:03 pm
by Peter Crisp
Death's Head wrote:
Peter Crisp wrote:I'm thinking the main increase in next gen will be on the CPU and that hasn't changed much at all with the mid-gen refreshes.
I think the GPU will only have a comparatively small upgrade but as 4K will be the standard at least it will only be trying to improve on a resolution that those refreshes are currently struggling with.
In the PC, GPU is more important so if consoles use the same architecture, that will also need to be the priority.


It will still be by far the most powerful and expensive part of the system it will just be backed-up by a much improved cpu.
A first Gen Ryzen pisses all over the CPU in the One X and they may have access to Gen 2 Ryzen which is even better.

Games are now being held back by the CPU rather than GPU so that's why I expect the main advance being in that area.

Re: Next Gen Xbox Consoles Confirmed - Codename Scarlet? (no hardware details yet)

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:04 pm
by Peter Crisp
Pedz wrote:Is it? I thought games vary on how dependent they are on GPU or CPU like Dying light is a CPU heavy game and Rocket League is GPU.


I expect most people build machines that are way more balanced than the One X which has a monster GPU but comparatively terrible CPU.

Re: RE: Re: Next Gen Xbox Consoles Confirmed - Codename Scarlet? (no hardware details yet)

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:36 pm
by Death's Head
Pedz wrote:Is it? I thought games vary on how dependent they are on GPU or CPU like Dying light is a CPU heavy game and Rocket League is GPU.
I think most games favour the GPU. On my PC, upgrading my CPU had much less impact than when I upgraded the GPU. But that could be in part due to poor optimisation. My dream version of Windows would optimise games based on what your hardware is, i.e. if you have an ultra powerful CPU, that could take up some of the work done by a low performing GPU.

Re: Next Gen Xbox Consoles Confirmed - Codename Scarlet? (no hardware details yet)

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:37 pm
by Pedz
Fair enough. I don't know a lot about PC's in a technical sense. I was genuinely unsure.

Re: Next Gen Xbox Consoles Confirmed - Codename Scarlet? (no hardware details yet)

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:03 pm
by Lagamorph
I wonder if Microsoft will actually finish the console this time rather than getting caught out by Sony and being forced to push an unfinished prototype out the door 12 months early.

Re: Next Gen Xbox Consoles Confirmed - Codename Scarlet? (no hardware details yet)

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:06 pm
by Peter Crisp
Lagamorph wrote:I wonder if Microsoft will actually finish the console this time rather than getting caught out by Sony and being forced to push an unfinished prototype out the door 12 months early.


The One X is a solid machine and I think shows they realise they made a mistake.
I have a feeling both manufacturers will launch at about the same time and the competition for most powerful will be hard fought so I think both will be decent.

Re: Next Gen Xbox Consoles Confirmed - Codename Scarlet? (no hardware details yet)

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:12 pm
by Hime
Lagamorph wrote:I wonder if Microsoft will actually finish the console this time rather than getting caught out by Sony and being forced to push an unfinished prototype out the door 12 months early.

I'm hoping Sony learn more the X to be honest. The pro is one ugly bastard.

Re: Next Gen Xbox Consoles Confirmed - Codename Scarlet? (no hardware details yet)

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:17 pm
by jawafour
Hime wrote:I'm hoping Sony learn more the X to be honest. The pro is one ugly bastard.

I quite like the look of the Pro :shifty: ... but I do prefer all versions of the PS4 to be set in vertical mode. I wish the fan and disc drive were quieter, though. The X console design does - from the pictures I've seen - look lovely; simple and sleek.

Re: Next Gen Xbox Consoles Confirmed - Codename Scarlet? (no hardware details yet)

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 4:10 pm
by gamerforever
The PS4 Pro looks awesome and unique. The Xbox One X is a PS2 rip off imo.

Re: Next Gen Xbox Consoles Confirmed - Codename Scarlet? (no hardware details yet)

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 4:22 pm
by Moggy
gamerforever wrote:The PS4 Pro looks awesome and unique. The Xbox One X is a PS2 rip off imo.


Look who has just got home from school.

Re: Next Gen Xbox Consoles Confirmed - Codename Scarlet? (no hardware details yet)

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 4:35 pm
by KjGarly
I like the look of both with the Pro sitting vertical and the X horizontal on my set up.

Re: Next Gen Xbox Consoles Confirmed - Codename Scarlet? (no hardware details yet)

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 4:37 pm
by BID0
Moggy wrote:
gamerforever wrote:The PS4 Pro looks awesome and unique. The Xbox One X is a PS2 rip off imo.


Look who has just got home from school.

Mummy and Daddy will be home soon to make sure that he is doing his homework

Re: Next Gen Xbox Consoles Confirmed - Codename Scarlet? (no hardware details yet)

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 4:49 pm
by Hime
jawafour wrote:
Hime wrote:I'm hoping Sony learn more the X to be honest. The pro is one ugly bastard.

I quite like the look of the Pro :shifty: ... but I do prefer all versions of the PS4 to be set in vertical mode. I wish the fan and disc drive were quieter, though. The X console design does - from the pictures I've seen - look lovely; simple and sleek.

The pro is an absolute unit and feels a bit cheap to me, the X looks like a premium media device. Not that it really matters but the X looks much nicer in the TV cabinet.

Re: Next Gen Xbox Consoles Confirmed - Codename Scarlet? (no hardware details yet)

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 4:54 pm
by gamerforever
Its hilarious seeing you Xbots defend your console!

Re: Next Gen Xbox Consoles Confirmed - Codename Scarlet? (no hardware details yet)

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 4:55 pm
by Tomous
gamerforever wrote:Its hilarious seeing you Xbots defend your console!


Here he is :slol:

Re: Next Gen Xbox Consoles Confirmed - Codename Scarlet? (no hardware details yet)

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 4:55 pm
by Moggy
gamerforever wrote:Its hilarious seeing you Xbots defend your console!


I have a PS4 you massive tit.

Re: Next Gen Xbox Consoles Confirmed - Codename Scarlet? (no hardware details yet)

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 5:00 pm
by Hime
gamerforever wrote:Its hilarious seeing you Xbots defend your console!

Nathan Drake is a nonce.

Re: Next Gen Xbox Consoles Confirmed - Codename Scarlet? (no hardware details yet)

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 5:02 pm
by Moggy
Hime wrote:
gamerforever wrote:Its hilarious seeing you Xbots defend your console!

Nathan Drake is a nonce.


Drake’s just a poor version of Lara Croft.

Re: Next Gen Xbox Consoles Confirmed - Codename Scarlet? (no hardware details yet)

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 5:07 pm
by Pedz
The Xbox X looks nothing like the PS2 :|